Eddie Howe

[Fretters]

Howe was one of our worst managers in the past 20 odd years especially with the resources at his disposal.

What resources? We'd already reached the point where he had to clear players out before he could buy.

[boatshed bill]

Eddie made some cracking signings but would have not got us out of the championship in a month of Sundays.

He was clueless with the defence, we were scoring 3 and letting 4 in it was embarrassing. It was even more embarrassing when he left and Sean showed him how it should be done.

Interesting that his cluelessness didn't stop him identifying and signing some of our best defenders since the 70s.

[elwaclaret]

Not so sure Ross Wallace is right with some of his claims for Howe in this daily record.... I’m pretty sure we at no point did we not have a training ground.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/fo ... d-23842378

I dont’t think anyone has ever suggested he could not pick a player, but I do think some of Ross’s memories of him as a manager are as cloudy as they are for Eddie setting up Gawthorpe training ground

[tim_noone]

Interesting that his cluelessness didn't stop him identifying and signing some of our best defenders since the 70s.

And Got Bournemouth out of the Championship as Well as getting em into the championship in the First place....on the Way to the top flight.

[boatshed bill]

And Got Bournemouth out of the Championship as Well as getting em into the championship in the First place....on the Way to the top flight.

Some managers just don't fit certain clubs, Tim,
I'm sure he didn't come to Burnley for any other reason than to try to succeed. Can't believe he didn't want to come to Burnley when he took the job, but perhaps he realised he'd made a mistake.
Wrong club, wrong man, wrong time.

[Right_winger]

Some managers just don't fit certain clubs, Tim,
I'm sure he didn't come to Burnley for any other reason than to try to succeed. Can't believe he didn't want to come to Burnley when he took the job, but perhaps he realised he'd made a mistake.
Wrong club, wrong man, wrong time.

Or perhaps he wasn’t up to the job. Which going by his record he wasn’t he failed with us.

Just remind me again what was the fine Bournemouth got for falling foul of FFP?

[Devils_Advocate]

Or perhaps he wasn’t up to the job. Which going by his record he wasn’t he failed with us.

Just remind me again what was the fine Bournemouth got for falling foul of FFP?

You do realise if you are going to judge a manager on the money he's spent then what percentage of turnover it equates to makes no difference.

The money Howe and Dyche spent to win their respective Championship titles was pretty similar so Id say the achievement should be seen as similar too

[boatshed bill]

Or perhaps he wasn’t up to the job. Which going by his record he wasn’t he failed with us.

Just remind me again what was the fine Bournemouth got for falling foul of FFP?

How should I know, I don't follow Bournemouth, I don't follow Eddie Howe's career either; perhaps you can tell me?

[ClaretTony]

Howe’s agent has just revealed that he’s not close to joining Celtic or any other club

[Devils_Advocate]

Chickened out the southern soft arse

[tiger76]

Howe’s agent has just revealed that he’s not close to joining Celtic or any other club

Hmm! I did wonder why the talks were taking so long, strange that this info has been in the public domain for a few days, and now it appears to all be much ado about nothing to use a Shakespeare title.

It does you wonder whether Eddie is waiting to see if any PL vacancies arise in the coming months, Palace for example?

[boatshed bill]

Chickened out the southern soft arse

Up until he heard on the radio that it was Glasgow Celtic he'd been quite keen.

[ClaretTony]

The message from his agent has appeared on SSN

[Jakubclaret]

Some managers just don't fit certain clubs, Tim,
I'm sure he didn't come to Burnley for any other reason than to try to succeed. Can't believe he didn't want to come to Burnley when he took the job, but perhaps he realised he'd made a mistake.
Wrong club, wrong man, wrong time.

Spot on, for whatever reason or reasons some things just aren’t meant to be, it’s been suggested that EH never wanted the burnley job but logically that’s untrue because at some point he accepted the job & started the job he actually left another job to come here, it’s more than possible post acceptance of a position doubts & regrets can emerge but not beforehand.

[boatshed bill]

It does you wonder whether Eddie is waiting to see if any PL vacancies arise in the coming months, Palace for example?

I think he'd be ideal for England under 21s.

[Claretitus]

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It does you wonder whether Eddie is waiting to see if any PL vacancies arise in the coming months, Palace for example?

I think he'd be ideal for England under 21s.
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Certainly would be an improvement on that Dinosaur Boothroyd! IMHO

[tiger76]

I think he'd be ideal for England under 21s.

I've thought that for a while, and if England are thinking long-term then it would make sense to get him into the set-up, it worked with Southgate, so why not Howe. No-one is doubting his coaching and development skills, it's his transfer record that's come under the microscope in his latter years at Bournemouth, and of course this wouldn't be an issue at international level.

[Rileybobs]

I've thought that for a while, and if England are thinking long-term then it would make sense to get him into the set-up, it worked with Southgate, so why not Howe. No-one is doubting his coaching and development skills, it's his transfer record that's come under the microscope in his latter years at Bournemouth, and of course this wouldn't be an issue at international level.

He would earn far less as England U21 head coach than as a PL club manager. It would be a massive step down in every way for a manager like Howe.

[boatshed bill]

He would earn far less as England U21 head coach than as a PL club manager. It would be a massive step down in every way for a manager like Howe.

But more than managing Eastleigh

[Rileybobs]

But more than managing Eastleigh

Most probably! I reckon he’ll have his sights set on a PL club, and quite rightly.

Dyche is paid more than Southgate, so I don’t think that managing an international youth team is going to be an attractive prospect for a manager who is proven at the top level.

[tiger76]

He would earn far less as England U21 head coach than as a PL club manager. It would be a massive step down in every way for a manager like Howe.

Money isn't everything you know, and if he succeeded Gareth Southgate in the top job, and did well with England at a major tournament, he wouldn't be short of potential suitors I'm sure, after all it's only recently he was heavily linked to the Arsenal job.

[Rileybobs]

Money isn't everything you know, and if he succeeded Gareth Southgate in the top job, and did well with England at a major tournament, he wouldn't be short of potential suitors I'm sure, after all it's only recently he was heavily linked to the Arsenal job.

Obviously money isn’t everything. But he’s not going to take a job where he earns what is likely to be around 20% of his previous salary to take a job with far less prestige. You just said yourself he was recently linked with the Arsenal job, why would he manage a youth team?

[tiger76]

Obviously money isn’t everything. But he’s not going to take a job where he earns what is likely to be around 20% of his previous salary to take a job with far less prestige. You just said yourself he was recently linked with the Arsenal job, why would he manage a youth team?

Depends what's available, but in all honesty if EH isn't snapped up by a PL or Championship club this summer I'll be surprised, yes he got relegated with Bournemouth, but only after keeping them in the top division for 5 seasons, and although there's still question marks over his defensive organisation, he should be a prime candidate for any ambitious Championship outfit, and even more so when he's effectively a free agent.

I have no idea whether he'll still take the Celtic job come the summer, he certainly doesn't appear to have totally ruled it out, just that he has no plans to return to management right now.

[simonclaret]

Dyche is paid more than Southgate

To be fair Southgate only works 8 weeks a year and his job consists of looking at the list of English players contracted to the top 6 clubs...

[Rileybobs]

To be fair Southgate only works 8 weeks a year and his job consists of looking at the list of English players contracted to the top 6 clubs...

It’s nice work if you can get it.

I think it takes a certain sort to become an international manager though. Whilst it would be difficult for someone like Dyche to ever turn down, I can’t imagine he, or many other PL managers enjoying the part-time nature of the role.

[Top Claret]

Interesting that his cluelessness didn't stop him identifying and signing some of our best defenders since the 70s.

The personal wasn't the problem the organisation was.

He just doesn't seem capable of setting up his defence, he had the same problems at Bournemouth

[elwaclaret]

Sounds like Celtic was more useful to test the water than a job. Possibly a shake the tree moment to find out what clubs will be sniffing come summer.

[Devils_Advocate]

The personal wasn't the problem the organisation was.

He just doesn't seem capable of setting up his defence, he had the same problems at Bournemouth

He only had one bad season in over ten years of managing Bournemouth and managed 3 promotions including winning the Championship title with the second best defence in the league.

Not sure he really did have problems at Bournemouth but from someone who spent a lot of this season telling us how sure he was that Leeds would go down then it doesn't surprise me you have such silly ideas.

[Zlatan]

Sounds like Celtic was more useful to test the water than a job. Possibly a shake the tree moment to find out what clubs will be sniffing come summer.

Palace...

I think that is where he will end up in the summer

[claretfern]

Thought Eddie was unlucky last season with the injuries Bournemouth had. Without them I think he may well have kept them up: we'll never know I guess.

[tiger76]

Palace...

I think that is where he will end up in the summer

That's my thinking also, and if he does replace Roy all the better for us, as that will mean we're more likely to keep hold of Sean.

[Top Claret]

He only had one bad season in over ten years of managing Bournemouth and managed 3 promotions including winning the Championship title with the second best defence in the league.

Not sure he really did have problems at Bournemouth but from someone who spent a lot of this season telling us how sure he was that Leeds would go down then it doesn't surprise me you have such silly ideas.

Bournemouth always struggled defencivly under Howe. Has far as your obsession with Leeds goes you need to seek medical help

[Hipper]

Bournemouth always struggled defencivly under Howe. Has far as your obsession with Leeds goes you need to seek medical help

I saw a few of Bournemouth's games on TV when I had Sky and I thought in many games his defence was well organised and effective. They may have struggled at times defensively but not all the time. We've struggled defensively too in some games. So do all the lesser clubs and even some of the bigger ones.

[Zlatan]

I saw a few of Bournemouth's games on TV when I had Sky and I thought in many games his defence was well organised and effective. They may have struggled at times defensively but not all the time. We've struggled defensively too in some games. So do all the lesser clubs and even some of the bigger ones.

I think the same people who say Eddie’s teams are poor defensively are the ones who say Dyche teams play long ball all the time - it self perpetuates the rubbish they spout IMO

[Quicknick]

I think the same people who say Eddie’s teams are poor defensively are the ones who say Dyche teams play long ball all the time - it self perpetuates the rubbish they spout IMO

But Zlatan, don't Eddie's teams concede a lot of goals? I don't have any stats to prove that, so I may be wrong.

[HB Claret]

Maybe Eddie will be the new Alan Curbishley and find his name touted for lots of vacancies without actually taking one ?

[DCWat]

2016/16 Burnley 39, 55 (-16) Bournemouth 55, 67 (-12)
2017/18 Burnley 36, 39 (-03) Bournemouth 45, 61 (-16)
2018/19 Burnley 45, 68 (-23) Bournemouth 56, 70 (-14)
2019/20 Burnley 43, 50 (-07) Bournemouth 40, 65 (-25)

In those four seasons, Bournemouth’s goal difference was: 5th worst, 4th worst, 3rd worst, 3rd worst. Conceding was an ongoing problem for them and when the goals dried up, the inevitable happened.

[Quicknick]

2016/16 Burnley 39, 55 (-16) Bournemouth 55, 67 (-12)
2017/18 Burnley 36, 39 (-03) Bournemouth 45, 61 (-16)
2018/19 Burnley 45, 68 (-23) Bournemouth 56, 70 (-14)
2019/20 Burnley 43, 50 (-07) Bournemouth 40, 65 (-25)

In those four seasons, Bournemouth’s goal difference was: 5th worst, 4th worst, 3rd worst, 3rd worst. Conceding was an ongoing problem for them and when the goals dried up, the inevitable happened.

Thanks for the clarification, DC. So that's it. Eddie's teams concede.

[Hipper]

People are saying that about the current Leeds side yet they beat us with a defensive performance (OK, we are one of the least effective in attack) and of course have just beaten Man City.

[Steve1956]

Thought Eddie was unlucky last season with the injuries Bournemouth had. Without them I think he may well have kept them up: we'll never know I guess.

Eddie was more than unlucky Bournemouth were robbed of their Premier league status by technology failure at the Sheffield United v Villa game,still surprised to this day more was not made of that technology failure,could you imagine the stink that would have been kicked up if it had happened to a big club