Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by DCWat » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:59 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:50 pm
I provide plenty of substance, maybe I should just file you alongside the others who don't understand basic things.

Shame, I thought you were better than that.
You provide plenty words but words don’t bring substance.

I’m happy to be filed wherever you wish, I’d got your number a long time ago, which more and more often is focusing on belittling people. A need to do that itself suggests a lack of substance.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Zlatan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm

Personally I question Tarkowski’s attitude. He’s playing like he knows he’s off soon

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Gordaleman » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:56 pm
Was JayRod the one giving birth?
Do you really think he would have made a difference?

What I want to know is what happened to our ability to score from corners? We had about 15 today and never really threatened.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by SGr » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm

End of the season can’t come quickly enough. Our home performances of late have been a joke. Doubled by f*cking Newcastle just because they have one guy with some pace and trickery. Unreal.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by superdimitri » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:55 pm
At least you haven't paid to watch most of it. Unless you pay to Murcoch's SKY.
Sky hasn't belonged to Murdoch for years now.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by FCBurnley » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm

See me ht comment. If I knew what was coming how dudnt Dyche know. We played well for 30 mins then just stopped winning the second balls and the 50/50 s. That’s 7 home games without a win. They bring on Wilson SM and Hendrick. We bring on Mumbongo in injury time. Says it all

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm

Well the blame for that lies at SD’s door. We’ve been saying all week that we needed to double up on St. M - that’s 6 points lost because we didn’t

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Re: Big man little man

Post by Bcrollerz » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm

Targetman wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:02 pm
Well not this week anyway!
Jay wont play again unless of injury
Vydra was superb again today
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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by claretgimmer » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm

Weak bench attacking wise but this is where a good manager earns his corn, he changes things around to stop the predictability but unfortunately as good a manager as he is Dyche is very one dimensional and it`s in games like this where he his shortcomings are highlighted, we were by far the better team but one player changed it for them, we knew what to expect but didn`t have a plan to combat him.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm

Would Westwood and Brownhill get into any other PL team? We really need an upgrade for next season or a total change of tactics for midfield. Our back five are good, our four strikers, when fit, are good enough, but we need cover to the defence and more creativity going forward.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by clansman » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm

Very frustrating. So many corners and so much good work going forward. However central midfield is so so weak.
Run at Tarks and he is always vulnerable. Newcastle did what they had to and fought hard.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Zlatan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:01 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm
Do you really think he would have made a difference?

What I want to know is what happened to our ability to score from corners? We had about 15 today and never really threatened.
3 centre backs answers that, just not going to be effective against that. Need to work on mixing it up against 3 at the back

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:01 pm

scouseclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:52 pm
Oh to have a game-changer on the bench...
Messi wouldn't get on until 92 mins with Dyche

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Steddyman » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:01 pm

Agree Brownill hasn't been good enough for some time, he is far too wasteful. Why aren't we playing Cork now he is fit again?

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Re: Saint maximum

Post by Belgianclaret » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:01 pm

Desperately caught flat footed after committing too many players forward.
One pass though the lines and he was given far too much space (exactly what should have been avoided).

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:01 pm

Probably had more shots etc today than any other game this season. Another purple patch destroyed us after being in a winning position. Gutted

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:01 pm

We were pathetic from the point they made the two subs. We did nothing to combat it. We know all about ASM, double up on him, but no, it's all about shape and framework. We should have been all over them like a tramp on a bag of discarded chips, but at 2-1 down we were strolling around as if we were 1-0.
Unforgivable given the importance of this game imo

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Re: Saint maximum

Post by SGr » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:02 pm

And yet it seems to never have occurred to Dyche to target such a player in the transfer window.

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Re: Saint maximum

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:02 pm

What killed us was backing of St M no challenge and leaving Murphy unmarked
Again our powderpuff midfield lost us the game

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:02 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:01 pm
3 centre backs answers that, just not going to be effective against that. Need to work on mixing it up against 3 at the back
Mixing it up ?

You are talking about one dimensional Dyche

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Re: Saint maximum

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:02 pm

Given up the lead twice in two weeks, not like us.

Maximum is a top player though, can see him moving on

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by brexit » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:02 pm

my major concern is how ineffective we have become at set pieces and corners.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Tribesmen » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:02 pm

Still not sure how we lost that game but there you go .

Maxiuim is some tool

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Re: Lack of options

Post by Murger » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:02 pm

To not have a plan b after so many years in the prem is embarrassing.
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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by NewClaret » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:02 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm
Personally I question Tarkowski’s attitude. He’s playing like he knows he’s off soon
Think that’s a bit harsh mate. It’d have been three were it not for his late clearance.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Longsidebogs » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:33 pm
Can we just drop brownhill indefinitely, he is just simply not good enough.

It’s like playing with ten men every single week.
Absolutely correct. He’s a Championship player at very best. But you aren’t allowed to say that on here!

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by NewClaret » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:03 pm

brexit wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:02 pm
my major concern is how ineffective we have become at set pieces and corners.
Agree. Our delivery is ****e.

Every corner to the keeper.

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Re: Saint maximum

Post by jackmiggins » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:03 pm

We had to keep tight to him for 10 minutes. Tarky completely at fault for the second. Amateur defending.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:03 pm

Also there centre halves must have headache because our only tactic appeared to be sling it in the box. It was like shelling peas for them it was that easy

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by KRBFC » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:03 pm

I actually thought we played quite well today, Tarkowski exposed showing why he doesn't play for Barcelona and England.
I must say though, Garlick is a disgrace, it's an absolute crime the tools he's given Dyche to work with. Fk all on the bench.

I've found myself less bothered these days anyway, bored of it all, major squad shakeup needed to perk my attention, where's our Saint-Maximin? we should've snapped him up after the Nice friendly.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Gordaleman » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:04 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:01 pm
3 centre backs answers that, just not going to be effective against that. Need to work on mixing it up against 3 at the back
I wasn't talking about just today. How many goals have we scored from corners this seaonn? Not very many, that's for sure.
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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Andreshotboots » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:04 pm

expoultryboy wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:57 pm
Same as last week , terrible game management both on and off the field .
Couldn't agree more, completely in charge of both games and a bit of quality against us and we cant even take a point. For all the corners there's zero creativity, just hoping the keeper flaps or it finds a Claret head. Today really hurts as a decent player, not a Messi or a Ronaldo has come on and ripped 3 points away from us with ease..

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by expoultryboy » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:04 pm

2 nil up last week, 1nil up this week and then we start losing the centre of midfield . Instead of taking Brownhill off as some were saying on here , why can't we change to 4-2-3-1 to nullify the opponents attacking options just as we did against wolves ?

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Re: Lack of options

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:04 pm

Did Rodriguez really have to be absent on account of having a baby?

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:04 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm
Personally I question Tarkowski’s attitude. He’s playing like he knows he’s off soon
If he wasn't bothered why did he clear it off the line?

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:04 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm
Personally I question Tarkowski’s attitude. He’s playing like he knows he’s off soon
:roll:

Maybe Dyche knows he (SD) is - just dreaming

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Re: Lack of options

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:05 pm

Cork has to play for me if he's fit, our best midfielder by far.
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Re: Lack of options

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:05 pm

Our midfield players with non tackling and dithering cost us the win

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:06 pm

Posters on here talk of the big rebuilding job needed at Crystal Palace should Dyche decide to go there.

Quite a big rebuilding job required closer to home it would seem after seasons of neglect and lack of investment during the transfer windows.

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Re: Lack of options

Post by KRBFC » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:06 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:04 pm
Did Rodriguez really have to be absent on account of having a baby?
Why does it matter? he's not good enough either, another who needs upgrading.
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Re: Lack of options

Post by Gordaleman » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:06 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:04 pm
Did Rodriguez really have to be absent on account of having a baby?
You want him to miss the birth of his child for the chance of five minutes football?
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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by diamondpocket » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:07 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 pm
Personally I question Tarkowski’s attitude. He’s playing like he knows he’s off soon
Yeah, looks a little chubby to me around the arse and has been very slow & sluggish for a while now. He'll get shown up at a bigger club if he gets his move, not a great passer and no pace at all. Good, no nonsense defender though, perfect for us.
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Re: Lack of options

Post by KRBFC » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:08 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:05 pm
Cork has to play for me if he's fit, our best midfielder by far.
All of them are ordinary and need upgrading, Cork has been average for a long while.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by KRBFC » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:09 pm

diamondpocket wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:07 pm
Yeah, looks a little chubby to me around the arse and has been very slow & sluggish for a while now. He'll get shown up at a bigger club if he gets his move, not a great passer and no pace at all. Good, no nonsense defender though, perfect for us.
Thinks he's prime Ronald Koeman with his donkey barge like Cruyff turns
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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by timshorts » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:09 pm

We needed to put in a second before wilson and St max were let onto the pitch, but after going 1 up, sat back rather too much.
I don't think we can blame the central midfield too much. Newcastle out-burnleyed us at the back after going one down putting their bodies on the line blocking shot after shot. They got a bit lucky at times.
But, Cork needs to return to the starting lineup as we look a lot better with him. That would have been emphasised today given the Newcastle's starting cm pair is the worst in the league.
We've not been fortunate to get to play Southampton just after ings got fit and Newcastle today just when their front 3 were back from injury, as without those players both teams have been dropping like stones.
JBG looks ready to move inside a la Wade Elliott. We really need to sort out a decent new wide player as a priority.
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Re: Lack of options

Post by Andreshotboots » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:10 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:06 pm
You want him to miss the birth of his child for the chance of five minutes football?
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It only took their sub 5 minutes to rip us apart so why not?

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by NickBFC » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:10 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:55 pm
At least you haven't paid to watch most of it. Unless you pay to Murcoch's SKY.
I do, and BT. Makes it worse.

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by Longsidebogs » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:11 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:36 pm
FFS Get a grip
You don’t agree? Ok then....let’s wait for the next transfer window eh? Or perhaps you think spending 1 MIO in two windows, on Dale Effie Stephens will cut it. We are invincible, and can stay in the Premier League forever, without any investment at all. Ok then!

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Re: Burnley v Newcastle - Match Day Thread

Post by giveusaB » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:12 pm

We are where we are because in that mini league at the bottom we have lost twice to Newcastle twice to Southampton drawn twice with wba and Brighton and a draw against Fulham.The only team we beat was Sheffield Utd.It’s great winning at Liverpool,Arsenal and Everton but we have to beat teams around us.
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Re: Lack of options

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:12 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:04 pm
Did Rodriguez really have to be absent on account of having a baby?
Dyche must’ve given him his blessing.

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