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Re: BPF
He’s no where near good enough.
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Re: BPF
I hope I’m wrong but I agree. Doesn’t have enough presence and as above just doesn’t look like a footballer. I know you can’t judge someones ability on appearance. And I know I just have.
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Re: BPF
Believe it or not, he's our 2nd string 'keeper, and we now have had 3 England internationals in our squads over the last few seasons.cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:06 pmI hope I’m wrong but I agree. Doesn’t have enough presence and as above just doesn’t look like a footballer. I know you can’t judge someones ability on appearance. And I know I just have.
Go back to pre-Heaton and tell me BPF is not as good as any of our 1st choice 'keepers in the last 30 odd years.
We are spoiled these days for goalkeepers
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Re: BPF
I like the look of BPF, and Will Norris...
More importantly, the best goalkeeping coach in the PL thinks that they have something worth working on, and that’s got to be good enough hasn’t it?
More importantly, the best goalkeeping coach in the PL thinks that they have something worth working on, and that’s got to be good enough hasn’t it?
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Re: BPF
One of the most stupid comments ever posted on here and there's been some really stupid ones in the past!
Re: BPF
Last 3. Check the post before yours.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:43 pmWell, the team has, actually.
And isn't it 8 in the last 3?
Man City A 5
Newcastle H 2
Man U A 3
Totals 10
I also said he’d done OK and used the word ‘unfortunately’. He’s had to play some big games and is a young lad making his way. It’s in front of him that doesn’t look solid or threatening enough anymore. The goal keeping department is the least of our worries this Summer.
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Re: BPF
**** me theres some bed wetters on here.
When we sell Pope and put BPF in, don't come back crying here!
When we sell Pope and put BPF in, don't come back crying here!
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His distribution is certainly a lot better than Pope's and hes done very little wrong objectively speaking. You cant blame him for any of the goals conceded in the last two games and he made a great save from Gayle last week and a good one v one save today.
However I still cant help but feel we would have come away with points these last two games with Pope in. I think he saves both first goals in the last two weeks (when performing well,) , which were good finishes but purely I think his stature allows him to save both. Not that he was I'm great forn before getting injured, mind.
However I still cant help but feel we would have come away with points these last two games with Pope in. I think he saves both first goals in the last two weeks (when performing well,) , which were good finishes but purely I think his stature allows him to save both. Not that he was I'm great forn before getting injured, mind.
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Re: BPF
Agree with you on all points, apart from maybe saving the first today.ClaretMat wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:20 pmHis distribution is certainly a lot better than Pope's and hes done very little wrong objectively speaking. You cant blame him for any of the goals conceded in the last two games and he made a great save from Gayle last week and a good one v one save today.
However I still cant help but feel we would have come away with points these last two games with Pope in. I think he saves both first goals in the last two weeks (when performing well,) , which were good finishes but purely I think his stature allows him to save both. Not that he was I'm great forn before getting injured, mind.
I have just watched the highlights back and had forgotten just how many times BPF saved us today. Billy is doing his work. An excellent understudy.
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Re: BPF
Sorry, I thought he played against Saints.Boss Hogg wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:39 pmLast 3. Check the post before yours.
Man City A 5
Newcastle H 2
Man U A 3
Totals 10
I also said he’d done OK and used the word ‘unfortunately’. He’s had to play some big games and is a young lad making his way. It’s in front of him that doesn’t look solid or threatening enough anymore. The goal keeping department is the least of our worries this Summer.
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Re: BPF
What BPF needs is a defence that protects him like Pope
Look at the facts . Man U the best team today , second in the league , Pope gets beat every time by those goals!
Newcastle , no chance with St Max mesmerising our defence , Tarks sliding on his arse for the winner , Mee hiding behind Tarks
Look at the facts . Man U the best team today , second in the league , Pope gets beat every time by those goals!
Newcastle , no chance with St Max mesmerising our defence , Tarks sliding on his arse for the winner , Mee hiding behind Tarks
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Re: BPF
I thought he did well......Henderson was a train wreck in comparison.
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Apparently he’s the best goalkeeper from Northern Ireland, somebody must think he looks like a footballer!cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:06 pmI hope I’m wrong but I agree. Doesn’t have enough presence and as above just doesn’t look like a footballer. I know you can’t judge someones ability on appearance. And I know I just have.
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Re: BPF
I honestly can’t tell you if he is or isn’t. He’s only played three games for us.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:11 pmBelieve it or not, he's our 2nd string 'keeper, and we now have had 3 England internationals in our squads over the last few seasons.
Go back to pre-Heaton and tell me BPF is not as good as any of our 1st choice 'keepers in the last 30 odd years.
We are spoiled these days for goalkeepers
He could be the next Heaton. He could be the next kiraly. He could be the next Luigi cenamo.
It’s rash of me to say he isn’t good enough. But it’s equally rash that people think he’s the new Heaton.
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Re: BPF
Perhaps. But you’ve taken the context out. Where I said myself not a way to judge someone.
But look at all of the other players on the pitch. He just doesn’t look like a premier league footballer.
Perhaps he needs the akinbiyi training reigime.
You want your keeper to be dominant. He just doesn’t appear to have that about him. Yet.
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Re: BPF
Joe Hart looked great for us too, still shipped goals for fun and couldn't buy a win. I think goalkeepers communicating is incredibly important, why were the team so slow to pushing out towards Greenwood for the 2nd goal? was the goalkeeper not screaming at the team to wake up? I don't know, BPF makes good saves, doesn't strike me as a future PL goalkeeper though.Elizabeth wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:39 pmWhat BPF needs is a defence that protects him like Pope
Look at the facts . Man U the best team today , second in the league , Pope gets beat every time by those goals!
Newcastle , no chance with St Max mesmerising our defence , Tarks sliding on his arse for the winner , Mee hiding behind Tarks
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Re: BPF
'Mee hiding behind Tarks'
Oh, come on! You can't honestly mean that. A ridiculous statement about a player with limitations, but honesty, commitment and desire second to none.
Oh, come on! You can't honestly mean that. A ridiculous statement about a player with limitations, but honesty, commitment and desire second to none.
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Re: BPF
Re: Northern Ireland - Pat Jennings wasn't too shabby.
Probably my favourite keeper of that period, (and that includes Gordon Banks).
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Re: BPF
Yes, maybe an overly harsh description of Mee in this instance and certainly does not reflect my opinion of him overall,which is very high.Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:22 pm'Mee hiding behind Tarks'
Oh, come on! You can't honestly mean that. A ridiculous statement about a player with limitations, but honesty, commitment and desire second to none.
The Newcastle player is very tricky and Mee was directly behind Tarkowski when the shot was hit and effectively out of the game. I think his positioning to stop shots is usually better than he showed here
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Re: BPF
"Doesn't look like a PL footballer", well neither did Neville Southall in his day, didn't do too badly, and Luke Shaw plays for Man Utd and England.
"Needs the Akinbiyi...whatever" well, our nutritionists/conditioning staff have been trying to get BPF to bulk out a bit through a personal diet plan, so you may be right there.
"Needs the Akinbiyi...whatever" well, our nutritionists/conditioning staff have been trying to get BPF to bulk out a bit through a personal diet plan, so you may be right there.
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Aye. I thought that as I typed it. But then realised he retired ten years before bpf was born.nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:26 pmRe: Northern Ireland - Pat Jennings wasn't too shabby.
Probably my favourite keeper of that period, (and that includes Gordon Banks).
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Re: BPF
I know. I’ve alluded to it above. It’s a ridiculous thing to say someone can’t be good because they don’t look like a player. It’s just an observation that’s all.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:57 pm"Doesn't look like a PL footballer", well neither did Neville Southall in his day, didn't do too badly, and Luke Shaw plays for Man Utd and England.
"Needs the Akinbiyi...whatever" well, our nutritionists/conditioning staff have been trying to get BPF to bulk out a bit through a personal diet plan, so you may be right there.
Fwiw I just don’t have any where near the confidence I do when popes name isn’t on the sheet. And I didn’t even have those concerns when Hart was in goal.
I hope I’m wrong. But I’d put money on him not having a career with us as a regular premier league goalkeeper.
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Re: BPF
Perfectly natural, it applies to any position on the pitch when we are not at full strength.cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:01 pm
Fwiw I just don’t have any where near the confidence I do when popes name isn’t on the sheet. And I didn’t even have those concerns when Hart was in goal.
I hope I’m wrong. But I’d put money on him not having a career with us as a regular premier league goalkeeper.
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Re: BPF
What would we really have done that much different in these games?boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:09 pmPerfectly natural, it applies to any position on the pitch when we are not at full strength.
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Re: BPF
I think you've missed my point.cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:19 pmWhat would we really have done that much different in these games?
Put Kevin Long in for Tarks, or Jimmy Dunne for Ben Mee, whoever you like.
our stand-ins are not as good, obviously, so they make us nervous.
This, of course, particularly applies to defenders.
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Understand. I thought you were implying the keeper was nervous because of a weaker side in front of him.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:33 pmI think you've missed my point.
Put Kevin Long in for Tarks, or Jimmy Dunne for Ben Mee, whoever you like.
our stand-ins are not as good, obviously, so they make us nervous.
This, of course, particularly applies to defenders.
The main thing we have missed from Pope isn’t his general play. It’s his leadership and organisation.
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Re: BPF
I'd put it slightly differently.cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:06 pmUnderstand. I thought you were implying the keeper was nervous because of a weaker side in front of him.
The main thing we have missed from Pope isn’t his general play. It’s his leadership and organisation.
SD has built a defensive system based on Mee, Tarkowski and Pope.
Leave any one of the three out and the system doesn't work anywhere near as well, evidenced by our defensive frailty with Joe Hart in goal or Kevin Long at CB.
Add to that we are playing further up the pitch these days and are not very good at defending a high line (too slow).
FWIW, I don't think NP has been as solid of late.
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I can't quite work out whether you think Pope and BPF are both a bit weedy for professional footballers, or whether you think Pope is a toned Schwarzenegger-like footballing hunk.cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:33 pmNot in anyway reason to judge him. But he doesn’t look like a professional premier league goalkeeper to me.
All the other players on the pitch on both sides look like physical, professional athletes.
Even McNeil looks older and more physical than him.
Reminds me a bit of ramsdale.
Did make a few good stops though.
Which is the better way to judge a goalkeeper? To watch a Mr univers competition, or to watch a football match? They both look like keepers to me.
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Re: BPF
Joe Neenan, Roger Hansbury, Mark Kendall weren't good enough
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Re: BPF
cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:01 pmI know. I’ve alluded to it above. It’s a ridiculous thing to say someone can’t be good because they don’t look like a player. It’s just an observation that’s all.
Fwiw I just don’t have any where near the confidence I do when popes name isn’t on the sheet. And I didn’t even have those concerns when Hart was in goal.
I hope I’m wrong. But I’d put money on him not having a career with us as a regular premier league goalkeeper.
It’s not that ridiculous, there’s a lot to be said about the groundwork children have about their movement, balance, and flexibility. Some children just move better and develop those positive bio mechanical memories that they carry into adulthood.
Bounce is a great book to have a read of.
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I have faith that by now Mercer will know if he's up to it long term or not.
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Re: BPF
Anyone confident he can step up?
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Reminds me of Jensen on a bad day-his confidence is shot, particulasrly being No 1 to an England GK
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Re: BPF
He’s a good competent keeper, he just doesn’t make the miraculous saves that Pope does.
Unfortunately we need to have a miracle worker between the posts
Unfortunately we need to have a miracle worker between the posts
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Re: BPF
Utter crap.
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Re: BPF
He had no chance today with Mee and Tarkowski in front of him they were dreadful, they gave him zero protection.
I honestly don't think the score line would have been any different if Pope had have been playing, bar the 4th which he should have done better with.
I honestly don't think the score line would have been any different if Pope had have been playing, bar the 4th which he should have done better with.
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Re: BPF
I thought he did his learning on the training ground and then applied it in games. Doesn't look up to it for me but in his defence I wonder how many football matches he has taken part in this season. Can't be many at all and that is never going to help.
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Re: BPF
When did we sign him? Was it 2019?
It must be hard to not play much football for 18 months or so and then to be called upon. I think he needs a loan in the championship with a team that would play him every week. That of course leaves a hole as our back up but I think he needs to play to develop and really see if he can make it.
It must be hard to not play much football for 18 months or so and then to be called upon. I think he needs a loan in the championship with a team that would play him every week. That of course leaves a hole as our back up but I think he needs to play to develop and really see if he can make it.
Re: BPF
Very Joe Hart esc, I may have called this bang onKRBFC wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:06 pmJoe Hart looked great for us too, still shipped goals for fun and couldn't buy a win. I think goalkeepers communicating is incredibly important, why were the team so slow to pushing out towards Greenwood for the 2nd goal? was the goalkeeper not screaming at the team to wake up? I don't know, BPF makes good saves, doesn't strike me as a future PL goalkeeper though.
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Re: BPF
He’s essentially Joe Hart but gets less abuse from our fans because he hasn’t won multiple Premier League titles, played over 70 times for England and isn’t Tom Heaton.