Financial planning for this summers transfers
Financial planning for this summers transfers
After that great performance Premier League football all but guaranteed for next season
We all seem to recognise a good amount of investment is required this summer
Quality CB needed to replace Tarks (plus another if Dunne goes) and a total midfield that lacks any real depth are the minimum areas to improve on
But where is the money going to come from
The new owners bought the club by taking it into debt, so they are not going to suddenly find some cash in their back pockets for SD
Would we be happy to see more debt added onto the clubs bank account
Can they maybe find new investors by raising capital against a new issue of shares
A new shirt sponsorship deal is almost certain but given the kudos of our club (most people outside of the UK don't even know where Burnley is ) can we seriously expect a significant revenue increase in any such package deal
Can we sell naming rights for the ground
Any plans can now be worked on with more confidence as league status is retained so just hope Mr Pace and his team earn their sizeable wages to give SD the financial backing he needs
We all seem to recognise a good amount of investment is required this summer
Quality CB needed to replace Tarks (plus another if Dunne goes) and a total midfield that lacks any real depth are the minimum areas to improve on
But where is the money going to come from
The new owners bought the club by taking it into debt, so they are not going to suddenly find some cash in their back pockets for SD
Would we be happy to see more debt added onto the clubs bank account
Can they maybe find new investors by raising capital against a new issue of shares
A new shirt sponsorship deal is almost certain but given the kudos of our club (most people outside of the UK don't even know where Burnley is ) can we seriously expect a significant revenue increase in any such package deal
Can we sell naming rights for the ground
Any plans can now be worked on with more confidence as league status is retained so just hope Mr Pace and his team earn their sizeable wages to give SD the financial backing he needs
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You'll certainly be very familiar with the new sponsors.
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I remember my accountant asking me who Endsleigh were when they first sponsored us. Which was worrying at the time. You know, finance etc.
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I think you can safely be assured we won't be using a betting firm.
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I'll try to address each one.
We all seem to recognise a good amount of investment is required this summer.
There will be.
Quality CB needed to replace Tarks (plus another if Dunne goes) and a total midfield that lacks any real depth are the minimum areas to improve on
But where is the money going to come from.
I think you'll find the Tarks situation will clear itself up and finances are available to improve.
The new owners bought the club by taking it into debt, so they are not going to suddenly find some cash in their back pockets for SD.
I am told there will be significantly more made available per position and player as and when needed.
Would we be happy to see more debt added onto the clubs bank account.
That is a personal issue for individual fans.
Can they maybe find new investors by raising capital against a new issue of shares.
Expect further developments
A new shirt sponsorship deal is almost certain but given the kudos of our club (most people outside of the UK don't even know where Burnley is ) can we seriously expect a significant revenue increase in any such package deal.
Expect a deal with a name you know that does not involve gambling
Can we sell naming rights for the ground.
We won't be doing
We all seem to recognise a good amount of investment is required this summer.
There will be.
Quality CB needed to replace Tarks (plus another if Dunne goes) and a total midfield that lacks any real depth are the minimum areas to improve on
But where is the money going to come from.
I think you'll find the Tarks situation will clear itself up and finances are available to improve.
The new owners bought the club by taking it into debt, so they are not going to suddenly find some cash in their back pockets for SD.
I am told there will be significantly more made available per position and player as and when needed.
Would we be happy to see more debt added onto the clubs bank account.
That is a personal issue for individual fans.
Can they maybe find new investors by raising capital against a new issue of shares.
Expect further developments
A new shirt sponsorship deal is almost certain but given the kudos of our club (most people outside of the UK don't even know where Burnley is ) can we seriously expect a significant revenue increase in any such package deal.
Expect a deal with a name you know that does not involve gambling
Can we sell naming rights for the ground.
We won't be doing
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Re: Financial planning for this summers transfers
interesting stuff Ben
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Thanks for the info Ben, sounds positive !
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Thanks Ben, is there serious stadium improvements being considered?
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Re: Financial planning for this summers transfers
This is like the transfer deadline day when BW got me all excited.
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Anyone mentioned about keeping the manager in place yet??
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At what stage have we reached regarding banning sponsorship by gambling companies? I thought this was quite close to being finalised but reading above it looks like I’m wrong.
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If there's no money then we'll have to sell to buy and unfortunately Tarks has made it clear he wants to go and with his contract situation, I don't think he alone will generate enough funds to rebuild the side.
Out-
Pope 40m
Tarks 20m
10m to service loans
50m to spend
In-
Heaton- free
Quaison-free
New starting CB- 15m
Starting right midfielder- 15m
Young CB with potential - 10m
One of young right back/left midfielder/centre mid- 10m
I'd say whoever comes in is likely weaker than Tarks, Heaton can help bring Peacock-Farrell through but obviously weaker between the sticks but hopefully we'd be stronger in two or three other positions with greater depth in the squad.
Don't see how we can do it without weakening some part of the side.
Out-
Pope 40m
Tarks 20m
10m to service loans
50m to spend
In-
Heaton- free
Quaison-free
New starting CB- 15m
Starting right midfielder- 15m
Young CB with potential - 10m
One of young right back/left midfielder/centre mid- 10m
I'd say whoever comes in is likely weaker than Tarks, Heaton can help bring Peacock-Farrell through but obviously weaker between the sticks but hopefully we'd be stronger in two or three other positions with greater depth in the squad.
Don't see how we can do it without weakening some part of the side.
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Conroy no club in world football would pay that for Pope.Conroy92 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:34 pmIf there's no money then we'll have to sell to buy and unfortunately Tarks has made it clear he wants to go and with his contract situation, I don't think he alone will generate enough funds to rebuild the side.
Out-
Pope 40m
Tarks 20m
10m to service loans
50m to spend
In-
Heaton- free
Quaison-free
New starting CB- 15m
Starting right midfielder- 15m
Young CB with potential - 10m
One of young right back/left midfielder/centre mid- 10m
I'd say whoever comes in is likely weaker than Tarks, Heaton can help bring Peacock-Farrell through but obviously weaker between the sticks but hopefully we'd be stronger in two or three other positions with greater depth in the squad.
Don't see how we can do it without weakening some part of the side.
20m is more realistic
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Re: Financial planning for this summers transfers
Elon Musk Boring company will be the new sponsor and we are breaking away to form an intergalactic league, you heard it here first !
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I would guess Boo Hoo as the club sponsors
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For England’s current number one? Sheffield United paid 18.5 for Ramsdale last summer.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:42 pmConroy no club in world football would pay that for Pope.
20m is more realistic
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Re: Financial planning for this summers transfers
Dare I say it - exciting timesBenWickes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:57 pmI'll try to address each one.
We all seem to recognise a good amount of investment is required this summer.
There will be.
Quality CB needed to replace Tarks (plus another if Dunne goes) and a total midfield that lacks any real depth are the minimum areas to improve on
But where is the money going to come from.
I think you'll find the Tarks situation will clear itself up and finances are available to improve.
The new owners bought the club by taking it into debt, so they are not going to suddenly find some cash in their back pockets for SD.
I am told there will be significantly more made available per position and player as and when needed.
Would we be happy to see more debt added onto the clubs bank account.
That is a personal issue for individual fans.
Can they maybe find new investors by raising capital against a new issue of shares.
Expect further developments
A new shirt sponsorship deal is almost certain but given the kudos of our club (most people outside of the UK don't even know where Burnley is ) can we seriously expect a significant revenue increase in any such package deal.
Expect a deal with a name you know that does not involve gambling
Can we sell naming rights for the ground.
We won't be doing
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Worth £60m given the going rate for Kepa and Allison, in my opinion.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:01 pmFor England’s current number one? Sheffield United paid 18.5 for Ramsdale last summer.
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Ok il put it another way.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:01 pmFor England’s current number one? Sheffield United paid 18.5 for Ramsdale last summer.
Name a club that would be prepared to pay 40m for Pope. Every top team plays out from back. It’s been proven Pope can’t play that way.
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Could be if all that came true. I remain hopeful that Pace and co are working as hard in the boardroom as the players are on the pitch, and there will be some good results.
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Do you have any more info on the above?BenWickes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:57 pmI'll try to address each one.
We all seem to recognise a good amount of investment is required this summer.
There will be.
Quality CB needed to replace Tarks (plus another if Dunne goes) and a total midfield that lacks any real depth are the minimum areas to improve on
But where is the money going to come from.
I think you'll find the Tarks situation will clear itself up and finances are available to improve.
The new owners bought the club by taking it into debt, so they are not going to suddenly find some cash in their back pockets for SD.
I am told there will be significantly more made available per position and player as and when needed.
Would we be happy to see more debt added onto the clubs bank account.
That is a personal issue for individual fans.
Can they maybe find new investors by raising capital against a new issue of shares.
Expect further developments
A new shirt sponsorship deal is almost certain but given the kudos of our club (most people outside of the UK don't even know where Burnley is ) can we seriously expect a significant revenue increase in any such package deal.
Expect a deal with a name you know that does not involve gambling
Can we sell naming rights for the ground.
We won't be doing
I have been asking for weeks similar questions and no one has been able to provide any info on where the finances are going to come from.
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Another positive comment from you.....Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:42 pmConroy no club in world football would pay that for Pope.
20m is more realistic
You seemingly love to stick the boot in towards the Club quite often and about any subject whatsoever. I bet you were a bit lost with what to say yesterday.
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No yesterday was genuinely one of the best games I have seen under Dyche. Complete and utter dominationJakubs Tash wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:15 pmAnother positive comment from you.....
You seemingly love to stick the boot in towards the Club quite often and about any subject whatsoever. I bet you were a bit lost with what to say yesterday.
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How do you know what clubs are prepared to pay for him? Best English keeper in the league as the stats show so his price as such will be a lot more than 20 million!Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:09 pmOk il put it another way.
Name a club that would be prepared to pay 40m for Pope. Every top team plays out from back. It’s been proven Pope can’t play that way.
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Ok I just think there is only 6 clubs in this league that can afford a sum of 40m on goalkeeper.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:22 pmHow do you know what clubs are prepared to pay for him? Best English keeper in the league as the stats show so his price as such will be a lot more than 20 million!
Can’t see any of them being willing to spend that when he doesn’t suit there playing style.
He’s a great player but unfortunately for him he is probably not going to leave to a bigger than Burnley.
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you would hope so
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Very positiveBenWickes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:57 pmI'll try to address each one.
We all seem to recognise a good amount of investment is required this summer.
There will be.
Quality CB needed to replace Tarks (plus another if Dunne goes) and a total midfield that lacks any real depth are the minimum areas to improve on
But where is the money going to come from.
I think you'll find the Tarks situation will clear itself up and finances are available to improve.
The new owners bought the club by taking it into debt, so they are not going to suddenly find some cash in their back pockets for SD.
I am told there will be significantly more made available per position and player as and when needed.
Would we be happy to see more debt added onto the clubs bank account.
That is a personal issue for individual fans.
Can they maybe find new investors by raising capital against a new issue of shares.
Expect further developments
A new shirt sponsorship deal is almost certain but given the kudos of our club (most people outside of the UK don't even know where Burnley is ) can we seriously expect a significant revenue increase in any such package deal.
Expect a deal with a name you know that does not involve gambling
Can we sell naming rights for the ground.
We won't be doing
"Think you will find the Tarks situation will clear itself up"
So, do we presume JT will be signing a new deal or going - that's a bit of an open ended statement
"It's a personal issue for fans re club debt"
So presume the club will be borrowing more money as part of summer transfer funding - more interest payments, but hopefully nearer to B of E rate of around 1% rather than 10% we are currently signed up for
"Raising capital against a new issue of shares" seems to be a further development
Wonder who these new investors may be - people who understand football is also for the fans hopefully
We know there will be a new shirt sponsor but will this bring in significant additional revenues to help fund transfer dealings and offset interest payments on increased debt
As previously said
Exciting times
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My guess on the sponsor - Barnfield.
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The hut would not surprise me. But as huge as they are they aren’t actually a household name. I’m expecting something more household.
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some of their brands arecricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:51 pmThe hut would not surprise me. But as huge as they are they aren’t actually a household name. I’m expecting something more household.
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That’s very true.
Wouldn’t surprise me. Perhaps my protein or similar.
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Playing out from the back will be gone soon i hope.......so boring.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:09 pmOk il put it another way.
Name a club that would be prepared to pay 40m for Pope. Every top team plays out from back. It’s been proven Pope can’t play that way.
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A hut is almost a household (four walls and a roof )cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:51 pmThe hut would not surprise me. But as huge as they are they aren’t actually a household name. I’m expecting something more household.
Just imagine if we were to sell the name of the ground, we could be playing matches at The Hut rather than The Turf
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You could be right but they're a huge company these days. Someone above suggested Boohoo and I'd suggest Barnfield are in their league in terms of turnover. They've got developments going on all over the place.
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Pickford went to Everton for £30 million and he's an accident waiting to happen, so are you saying he was signed just because he's apparently a better passer?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:25 pmOk I just think there is only 6 clubs in this league that can afford a sum of 40m on goalkeeper.
Can’t see any of them being willing to spend that when he doesn’t suit there playing style.
He’s a great player but unfortunately for him he is probably not going to leave to a bigger than Burnley.
Pope plays in a way to suit us, if he went to a different club he'd adapt his game.
He can pass a ball, he can kick a ball.
He's also a great shot stopper.
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Boohoo posted £856m revenue in 2019, Barnfield £89m in 2020. The hut group £1.14bn.
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A Hut or a Barn (in a ) field , the main choices then ?
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Anne Summers?
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Premier Gas?
Would prefer Anne Summers just because there's a few dildos on this site.
Would prefer Anne Summers just because there's a few dildos on this site.
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I stand corrected in these orthapaedic shoes.
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I get what your saying but as an all round keeper Pickford is slightly better. Pope is a great shot stopper and commands his area but as his England performances proved, he couldn’t adapt to playing out from the back.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:20 amPickford went to Everton for £30 million and he's an accident waiting to happen, so are you saying he was signed just because he's apparently a better passer?
Pope plays in a way to suit us, if he went to a different club he'd adapt his game.
He can pass a ball, he can kick a ball.
He's also a great shot stopper.
Just as a side point, I think Pickford has a bad reputation. Pickford and Pope have had the same amount of errors leading to the goals this season (2).
Don’t get me wrong we could get more than 20m for him. I just can’t see any club shelling out 40m.
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He proved he can pass it out from the back when with England, the problem was the idiot Stones fluffed it up.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:09 amI get what your saying but as an all round keeper Pickford is slightly better. Pope is a great shot stopper and commands his area but as his England performances proved, he couldn’t adapt to playing out from the back.
Just as a side point, I think Pickford has a bad reputation. Pickford and Pope have had the same amount of errors leading to the goals this season (2).
Don’t get me wrong we could get more than 20m for him. I just can’t see any club shelling out 40m.
Hardly instills confidence in the keeper when his defender just gives the ball away.