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Post by jojomk1 » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:13 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:48 pm
Besic has played barely 30 League games in his 7 years at Everton
He also had loan spells at Boro and Sheff Utd during that time, and it would appear didn't do enough to excite either of them

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Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:25 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:13 pm
He also had loan spells at Boro and Sheff Utd during that time, and it would appear didn't do enough to excite either of them
He didn't do enough to excite wilder for sure but reading snippets on the Sheffield United forum some of the fans were critical that he wasn't kept on some must have liked him or thought he could do a job in the middle of the park, I think he's a midfielder I could be wrong, can't comment on oneboro haven't really looked on to gauge an opinion on him whilst he was there.

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Post by Claret_tinted » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:35 pm

djemba-djemba wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:25 pm
I expect minimum 2 new starters as well as 2 more of these type of squad fillers you mention who are good enough to step up when asked.

If we haven’t got the money to buy a minimum of 4 new players then Dyche needs to utilise the loan market much better than he has in the past. Bring in players who he will use and who are good enough, not just expensive dross to sit on the bench.
Have you watched, listened and understood the way Dyche has the club set up? Loyalty!!

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Post by Claret_tinted » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:38 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:22 pm
I just don’t know how we can compete. We purchased the leagues top scorer for 15m in 2017. This seasons top scorer was rumoured to be available for 35m.

Them kinds of sums are just not in our ball park.
They have to be in our ball park. You cannot run the ship without replacing and updating the playing staff overtime.

It’s the cost of doing business in the present climate. Call it a Covid tax.....

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:12 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:43 pm
Both would fill gaps as King can operate as a wide man. I've always liked Besic. Very comfortable on the ball with two good feet.
TWO FEET!.........sign him up. We seem to have a lot of players who refuse to use both of theirs.

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Post by Spijed » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:24 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:12 pm
TWO FEET!.........sign him up. We seem to have a lot of players who refuse to use both of theirs.
Some of the worlds greatest players were one footed!

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:29 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:24 pm
Some of the worlds greatest players were one footed!
A LOT of the worlds greatest players were two footed!

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Post by WiscoClaret » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:06 pm

Joe Worral actually keen on move to play under Dyche. https://tbrfootball.com/west-ham-united ... t-burnley/

Athletic is pretty reputable. 10m is the valuation. 8m+ add ons incoming.

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Post by claretfern » Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:06 pm

Alledged interest in F.C Copenhagen's defender Victor Nelsson (along with Crystal Palace) Denmark u21 captain
Tribalfootball.com

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Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:26 pm

claretfern wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:06 pm
Alledged interest in F.C Copenhagen's defender Victor Nelsson (along with Crystal Palace) Denmark u21 captain
Tribalfootball.com
It's not the only link which is suggesting firm interest in VN could be something in this 1.
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Post by beddie » Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:42 pm

Theo Walcott to be released, was on loan at Southampton. Not sure whether it was a loan with a view to a permanent signing but if he was available could he do a job for us?

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Post by Elizabeth » Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:59 pm

Somethings got to give before next season!
The rewards clearly await Dyche financially. Yet the owners look like they’ve got no real money of their own .
If you want to stay on your throne Sean , agree to the loan strategy I’m sure Pace will put your way
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Post by Longsider » Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:59 pm

WiscoClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:06 pm
Joe Worral actually keen on move to play under Dyche. https://tbrfootball.com/west-ham-united ... t-burnley/

Athletic is pretty reputable. 10m is the valuation. 8m+ add ons incoming.
Yes, I saw this. Could see this happening to be honest.
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Post by WiscoClaret » Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:33 pm

beddie wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:42 pm
Theo Walcott to be released, was on loan at Southampton. Not sure whether it was a loan with a view to a permanent signing but if he was available could he do a job for us?
Southampton agreed to terms with Walcott. He’s signed permanently for them.

I could see King doing well here...however, I’m not sure we are an attractive enough club or if he’s be willing to take a pay cut in wages. However, on a free it’s not so bad and we’d make up a bit of wage with no transfer fee. However I don’t think we’d want to mess up our pay structure.

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Post by BenWickes » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:26 am

WiscoClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:33 pm
Southampton agreed to terms with Walcott. He’s signed permanently for them.

I could see King doing well here...however, I’m not sure we are an attractive enough club
He's played for them down the road and Bournemouth in the past. He's not exactly set the bar high in terms of attractive clubs he's played for.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:43 am

claretfern wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:06 pm
Alledged interest in F.C Copenhagen's defender Victor Nelsson (along with Crystal Palace) Denmark u21 captain
Tribalfootball.com
Been pictured at Palace training ground yesterday.

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Post by claretfern » Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:49 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:43 am
Been pictured at Palace training ground yesterday.
You've got to wonder, from the player's point of view, why you would entertain a club who have yet to hire a Manager: Will he suit the new Manager?

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Post by clarethomer » Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:22 am

Maybe he has already seen, or is due to come to see, ours as he looks at his options?

Just because a photo has been taken - it only proves he is considering his options.

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Post by MACCA » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:00 am

claretfern wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:49 am
You've got to wonder, from the player's point of view, why you would entertain a club who have yet to hire a Manager: Will he suit the new Manager?
I'm sure if the money is high enough, it wont really be an issue

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:30 am

clarethomer wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:22 am
Maybe he has already seen, or is due to come to see, ours as he looks at his options?

Just because a photo has been taken - it only proves he is considering his options.
For all we know the player could have been identified whilst RH was in charge & it was a prearranged visit, doesn't mean he'll sign, it's when they start undergoing medicals you know it's promising.

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Post by fatboy47 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:49 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:43 am
Been pictured at Palace training ground yesterday.
Not sure that's kosher...my cousin swears he saw him looking in a kebab shop window up Duke Bar.

Maybe photoshopped?

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:11 pm

Not linked with but a couple of players in Germany with a year left on their contracts are :

Dennis Geiger of Hoffenheim - central midfielder with a lot of talent , likened to Joshua Kimmich.

Milot Rashica - winger/forward who turned down Villa in the summer, due to not wanting to be in a relegation battle , and was subsequently relegated himself on the last day of the season. A useful player nonetheless, but that sort of attitude has to be questioned.

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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:01 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:26 am
He's played for them down the road and Bournemouth in the past. He's not exactly set the bar high in terms of attractive clubs he's played for.
Since the rumour Ole was interested in signing him for United he's been awful. Slight upgrade (only because of his age) on Barnes, but lot more expensive.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:30 pm

King will likely be linked with us but I’m not sure the commitment would be there from him. As stated since he was linked with United he’s been dire

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:48 pm

@TEAMtalk on Twitter stating that we have enquired about Neco Williams on a loan basis from Liverpool. Young right back going to the Euros with Wales.

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Post by BenWickes » Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:56 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:48 pm
@TEAMtalk on Twitter stating that we have enquired about Neco Williams on a loan basis from Liverpool. Young right back going to the Euros with Wales.
Interesting. His brother is with our U18's.
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:25 pm

Also said that Norwich were interested - if they lose max aarons! Also a few championship clubs mentioned in there too. Natural progression at right back in terms of age if it was loan with a view to permanent deal. Bardsley into a coaching role and Williams challenging Lowton. Hypothetically .

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Post by tiger76 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:26 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:48 pm
@TEAMtalk on Twitter stating that we have enquired about Neco Williams on a loan basis from Liverpool. Young right back going to the Euros with Wales.
I like the sound of that info, and we do need to try and utilise the loan market much better than we have previously, however we already have Bards & Lowton for that position, so unless we're looking to offload either of those, which I find highly unlikely, I don't see how this lad will be guaranteed enough minutes for Klopp to agree to a loan move.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:29 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:26 pm
I like the sound of that info, and we do need to try and utilise the loan market much better than we have previously, however we already have Bards & Lowton for that position, so unless we're looking to offload either of those, which I find highly unlikely, I don't see how this lad will be guaranteed enough minutes for Klopp to agree to a loan move.
Unless we adopt different shapes for different games you may be right about his game time. Although, and I may be wrong on this but I’m sure I watched Konate their new centre half , play right back for RB Leipzig , and Gomez can definitely play there .

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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:39 pm

We need to have everyone singing from the same hymn sheet to get this crucial summer window sorted

Couple of potential problems in that respect

CT has alluded to the fact that Rigg and Hodge put forward a number of proposals over recent times that SD just batted away, so clearly there are some differences of opinion there with Hodge in the future

The new owners seem keen to use this new scouting system which, I presume, will be putting forward younger, maybe cheaper/unknown options. Again we have seen that, historically, Dyche prefers a more mature experienced player. Will Pace be happy for SD to veto any options that come through this app.

We have yet to see the colour of any money available to SD
I would hope there would be figures in excess of the Gibson deal and any fee we get for players leaving the club
If money is tight then the loan market is a really important tool at our disposal. Again, it is an area that we have seen more failures than successes in the past. We are restricted to only two players from home leagues so abroad is an area we have to seriously consider but, again, we know this is an area SD is reticent to use

Hoping for some exciting/unusual signings this summer - a couple of first team starters at least plus others in their early 20's for the future

But issues as highlighted above need to be rectified around the table before it can happen

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:44 am

Looks like Collins is going to Leicester for £15m.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:58 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:44 am
Looks like Collins is going to Leicester for £15m.
I love posts like this.

We are linked with a player multiple times across various outlets over long periods and people struggle to believe there is anything in it.

Another club get tentatively linked and it’s instantly considered as good as a done deal.

It’s one of the quirks of this messageboard.
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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:03 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:58 am
I love posts like this.

We are linked with a player multiple times across various outlets over long periods and people struggle to believe there is anything in it.

Another club get tentatively linked and it’s instantly considered as good as a done deal.

It’s one of the quirks of this messageboard.
So on that basis would you be surprised if he did go to Leicester, let's be honest we do have form for being interested in certain players & taking that long with negotiations the deals don't get completed, I wouldn't be at least the little bit surprised if he did go to Leicester, knowing the club & how much we f*nny about it's almost expected.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:11 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:58 am
I love posts like this.

We are linked with a player multiple times across various outlets over long periods and people struggle to believe there is anything in it.

Another club get tentatively linked and it’s instantly considered as good as a done deal.

It’s one of the quirks of this messageboard.
I thought Alex Wood was a pretty reliable source. If anything more reliable than our links were in January. Wasn’t it just that Irish bloke on Twitter saying we were in for him

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:33 am

Is it possible that Stoke or the players agent have given this info out to try and get a better price from us?

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Post by tiger76 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:42 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:44 am
Looks like Collins is going to Leicester for £15m.
Well I have no idea whether this info is correct or not, however let's say there is something in these Collins>Leicester rumours, at least that probably means the Foxes won't be sniffing around Tarks this window anyway. So we could regard it as a positive for BFC in that regard anyhow.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:44 am

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:42 am
Well I have no idea whether this info is correct or not, however let's say there is something in these Collins>Leicester rumours, at least that probably means the Foxes won't be sniffing around Tarks this window anyway. So we could regard it as a positive for BFC in that regard anyhow.
Yes I would imagine if they get him. Tarks will run his contract down. Think we stay up next season if he stays

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Post by tiger76 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:55 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:44 am
Yes I would imagine if they get him. Tarks will run his contract down. Think we stay up next season if he stays
There are no guarantees in life, and certainly not in the PL, but our odds of staying up will greatly increase if we keep hold of Tarks, and obviously also if he remains fit for most of the campaign.

However we should still be looking at getting a replacement for JT either in this window, or in January because it's unlikely he'll pen a new deal with us alas, and you don't have to be a genius to see that neither Dunne or Long are up to the required standards this league demands.

It would be disappointing to lose him on a free, but given the sell-on % due to Brentford, and the fact that staying up for another season or two as a minimum will net the club upwards of £200m, then I fall on the side of keeping him for the next 12 months, assuming of course that he's happy to still be at Burnley, if he's not then we should consider any reasonable offers, as there' no point keeping players who don't want to be here.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:01 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:33 am
Is it possible that Stoke or the players agent have given this info out to try and get a better price from us?
Might also be Leicester giving us the Hurry Up in terms of any offer they have lodged for Tarkowski

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:07 pm

Reports are that Arsenal are also in the chase for Collins.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:33 pm

Chris Wood wanted by three clubs this window.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... ssion=true

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:37 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:07 pm
Reports are that Arsenal are also in the chase for Collins.
Even though he’s only just signed for Leicester? ;)

I don’t know where he will end up but do find it comical that links become fact when they involve other clubs.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:49 pm

£15 million?
Not really sure why we haven't bid that and got the deal wrapped up by now.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:52 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:49 pm
£15 million?
Not really sure why we haven't bid that and got the deal wrapped up by now.
That’s what the papers are saying anyway.

I still think that is quite high for a lad with very little game time. But he must be a good player based purely on who is after him.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:00 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:52 pm
That’s what the papers are saying anyway.

I still think that is quite high for a lad with very little game time. But he must be a good player based purely on who is after him.
Its the market now though.
So we either get on board where we can or shop in league 1/abroad.

We apparently already have interest in Tarks and are haggling over what we want for him, so in theory one fee negates the other.

Oh and Utd paid £10 million for Smalling and he had even less league game time for Fulham if I remember rightly.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:03 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:00 pm
Its the market now though.
So we either get on board where we can or shop in league 1/abroad.

We apparently already have interest in Tarks and are haggling over what we want for him, so in theory one fee negates the other.

Oh and Utd paid £10 million for Smalling and he had even less league game time for Fulham if I remember rightly.
Fair enough, I am all for getting players that improve us. Just surprised at the amount being quoted, thought Stoke would be more flexible given there recent financial figures.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:09 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:03 pm
Fair enough, I am all for getting players that improve us. Just surprised at the amount being quoted, thought Stoke would be more flexible given there recent financial figures.
Stoke are in a really good position, they have a couple of good players who are generating interest it's not far off what could describe as an auction I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being more than 3 interested clubs before the players end up leaving.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:18 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:09 pm
Stoke are in a really good position, they have a couple of good players who are generating interest it's not far off what could describe as an auction I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being more than 3 interested clubs before the players end up leaving.
Havent they just lost £80 odd million in their last results ?

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:24 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:18 pm
Havent they just lost £80 odd million in their last results ?
£80m losses in last financial figures. I thought a few of there players would be available on the cheap.
It looks like even with Covid championship clubs arnt letting players leave for discounted fees.

Let’s see what happens. I would be more concerned with Chris wood going than anything else. His goals are critical for us.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:28 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:18 pm
Havent they just lost £80 odd million in their last results ?
& even more reason to recoup the maximum.
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