Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Pearcey]

It does look like we’re actively looking and willing to spend which is a good sign. Lennon plus a winger who could walk into the first 11 would do for me.

[gandhisflipflop]

That fax machine is being dusted off!

[NewClaret]

The picture that appears to be emerging is one that re-inforces the less optimistic views that emerged straight after the takeover. The (naieve?) suggestion that there were some financial big beasts lurking in the background ready to pump cash into the club in support of ALK very much seems to have been a bit of a pipedream.

Have to put myself in that camp, I’m afraid. I very much thought that ALK would have a few significant US backers that would bring both financial strength and contacts that would help us grow. I think Pace & co have made some great moves to date but that prospect is looking less likely now, I have to say. Still hopeful we’ll make a signing before the window closes though.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Lots of outlets pushing the Cornet speculation today, probably just lazy journalism, but we had the same hysteria just before Collins signed

It’s really strange apart from Nixon I can’t see anyone saying Cornet to Burnley. The international scene seems to be saying he is going to Hertha

[Woodleyclaret]

What we've got re players were are sticking with.
We will be fine with what we've got and dont see anymore ins or outs this window

[Jakubclaret]

If Lookman is ‘unsure’ I wouldn’t want him within 100 miles of Gawthorpe. Let’s move on.

If he changed his mind you would accept him with open arms not many wouldn’t.

[Bigvince]

It’s really strange apart from Nixon I can’t see anyone saying Cornet to Burnley. The international scene seems to be saying he is going to Hertha

International media are saying he’s probably going to Herhta, due to the fact(as far as we know) no other has put in an offer for him.

[NewClaret]

If he changed his mind you would accept him with open arms not many wouldn’t.

If I were buying players, I’d be permanently put off by players that showed any sign of reluctance to play for us. Our group is so tightly knit, the last thing we want is a bad apple who thinks he’s bigger than the club or has his heart set on a different move.

Judging by our rumoured targets - Cornet, AMN, Lookman - we appear to be taking a step up in terms of the quality we’re looking to sign, which probably explains why we’re not getting them completed in the timeframes we’d like. If this is how hard it is to get these deals done, I’d rather we looked elsewhere.

[Steddyman]

Have to put myself in that camp, I’m afraid. I very much thought that ALK would have a few significant US backers that would bring both financial strength and contacts that would help us grow. I think Pace & co have made some great moves to date but that prospect is looking less likely now, I have to say. Still hopeful we’ll make a signing before the window closes though.

I don’t think it is money that’s the problem, and maybe it hasn’t been for quite a while.

Recent media stories all suggest we are going for the players, but they don’t want to play for Burnley (or Sean).

[kentonclaret]

The wildfires of transfer speculation burning at the start of this thread as to who might be recruited as one of two wide players have been seriously dampened, and almost extinguished, as the realisation dawns that Lennon may be the only option available. A player that was never even mentioned until recently as an incoming.

[Culmclaret]

Well if they don’t want to play for Burnley we don’t want them. If they can find something ‘better’ good luck to them

[Newcastleclaret93]

Celtic news now are reporting we are leading the race to sign 5m rated Christie.

These lot are usually pretty reliable when it comes to everything Celtic.

Maybe there is something in this

[kentonclaret]

I don’t think it is money that’s the problem, and maybe it hasn’t been for quite a while.

Recent media stories all suggest we are going for the players, but they don’t want to play for Burnley (or Sean).

If that statement is true it may well explain why other clubs have not gone all out to recruit SD if they perceive that we are struggling to recruit players because of our playing style or manager. Player recruitment is integral to the success of any football club if they want to progress and improve their league position each season.

[tiger76]

Celtic news now are reporting we are leading the race to sign 5m rated Christie.

These lot are usually pretty reliable when it comes to everything Celtic.

Maybe there is something in this

I can definitely see Christie leaving Celtic in this window, but whether he'll be Burnley bound on that I have my doubts, I'd be happy to be proved wrong however.

Be interesting if Christie is named in the Celtic squad today, and if he is whether he plays any part in their match.

£5m probably isn't far of his valuation, however given his contract expires in December any suitors might be able to get him for less.

Could he perform in the PL, yes I think he could, he's shown enough in a Celtic shirt especially in their European games, to suggest he's more than capable of playing in the PL.

And wages shouldn't be a problem there I imagine.

[jedi_master]

Christie seems relatively versatile being able to play behind a striker or on the right so would present a good option. It’s a step up in standard for him, but Stuart Armstrong has done well at Southampton as a similar sort of example. Our budget seems very small so a fee of £5m should appeal to us for a player with his pedigree who has played in Europe and internationally fairly frequently - good age too.

If we somehow managed to sign Christie and Cornet (who, I confess, I’m more excited by on the grounds of sheer mystique than actually knowing his capabilities) it would turn the window from poor to excellent overnight - that’s how close the squad is. It just needs a couple more in those advanced midfield/wing positions (not including Lennon) and we’d be set.

[Firthy]

What we've got re players were are sticking with.
We will be fine with what we've got and dont see anymore ins or outs this window

I wish I was as confident you. But looking back to the last run of games at the end of the season, I will be even less condifent if we don't bring in a RW and midfielder with some youth and pace.

[ksrclaret]

Ryan Christie would be a decent signing. I'd certainly have taken that at the start of the window for such a (relatively) low fee. I hope there is some truth there.

[ksrclaret]

Christie seems relatively versatile being able to play behind a striker or on the right so would present a good option. It’s a step up in standard for him, but Stuart Armstrong has done well at Southampton as a similar sort of example. Our budget seems very small so a fee of £5m should appeal to us for a player with his pedigree who has played in Europe and internationally fairly frequently - good age too.

If we somehow managed to sign Christie and Cornet (who, I confess, I’m more excited by on the grounds of sheer mystique than actually knowing his capabilities) it would turn the window from poor to excellent overnight - that’s how close the squad is. It just needs a couple more in those advanced midfield/wing positions (not including Lennon) and we’d be set.

I've long thought that Stuart Armstrong would be just about the perfect player for us out wide. He's a PL version of Scott Arfield.

Shame we never managed to get him from Dundee Utd when we had the chance.

[Tall Paul]

I wish I was as confident you. But looking back to the last run of games at the end of the season, I will be even less condifent if we don't bring in a RW and midfielder with some youth and pace.

Maybe look back to the run of games in the middle part of the season.

[tiger76]

Celtic news now are reporting we are leading the race to sign 5m rated Christie.

These lot are usually pretty reliable when it comes to everything Celtic.

Maybe there is something in this

Hope so, Leicester and Saints also linked, so if we want RC we'd better make a move ASAP. His reported wages are 12k a week, so that's well within our budget. And crucially he's still only 26, so plenty of good years left in him yet, this is precisely the type of signing we should be looking at, reasonably cheap in terms of budget, and a guy we can get a good 2/3/4 years out of, plus if he impresses someone who may present a resale value in a year or two, and that's something our squad is sorely lacking in right now.

[ClaretMov]

Hope so, Leicester and Saints also linked, so if we want RC we'd better make a move ASAP. His reported wages are 12k a week, so that's well within our budget. And crucially he's still only 26, so plenty of good years left in him yet, this is precisely the type of signing we should be looking at, reasonably cheap in terms of budget, and a guy we can get a good 2/3/4 years out of, plus if he impresses someone who may present a resale value in a year or two, and that's something our squad is sorely lacking in right now.
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His age of 26 is very crucial.......he's ten years to young for our team

[Jakubclaret]

If I were buying players, I’d be permanently put off by players that showed any sign of reluctance to play for us. Our group is so tightly knit, the last thing we want is a bad apple who thinks he’s bigger than the club or has his heart set on a different move.

Judging by our rumoured targets - Cornet, AMN, Lookman - we appear to be taking a step up in terms of the quality we’re looking to sign, which probably explains why we’re not getting them completed in the timeframes we’d like. If this is how hard it is to get these deals done, I’d rather we looked elsewhere.

Say what you want, you can convince yourself that’s the case but I know if lookman didn’t want to be here but did come here & played well & made all the difference, any misgivings regarding reluctance would be quickly forgotten about.

[KRBFC]

Good player is Christie, available for dirt cheap.

[RVclaret]

Christie would be a solid signing. Christie and Cornet would turn a shocking window into an outstanding one.

[Quickenthetempo]

If we were interested in Christie we could get him to sign the pre contract thing that exists between foreign countries and get him for free in December.
No point wasting 5m for a few month.

[Lancasterclaret]

So players don't want to play for us?

Throwing it out there, but perhaps some headlines around a certain banner might be putting off some players?

I'd find it really bizarre if that was the case as its clearly only a very small (if vocal) minority, but if you are being asked to move to a different country, and are a bit meh about it, that sort of thing possibly might be an issue?

I suspect not, but it does seem weird that a lot of players don't want to move, when we can pay better wages than most.

[ClaretAL]

Or it could be things like Tarky needing to move if he wants play for England etc as our style just doesn't suit...

[Quickenthetempo]

So players don't want to play for us?

Throwing it out there, but perhaps some headlines around a certain banner might be putting off some players?

I'd find it really bizarre if that was the case as its clearly only a very small (if vocal) minority, but if you are being asked to move to a different country, and are a bit meh about it, that sort of thing possibly might be an issue?

I suspect not, but it does seem weird that a lot of players don't want to move, when we can pay better wages than most.

Complete non story Lancaster.

Reasons foreign players might not want to play for us.

The north is seen as rainy and miserable.
Clubs abroad pay their better players very well. So we don't pay much more.
Hardly anybody speaks other languages in the club.
Foreigners don't appreciate our style of play. They prefer more technical football.

[Zom Zom]

We had an issue with attracting players years ago. The Bryson(?) on-off transfer was a reality check and Dyche said he chose to stay in the second tier to earn more money over playing Premier League football against the cream of the crop, so this is nothing new. I don't believe the plane stunt has much influence, if any at all. If players were so shallow to paint a whole town with the same brush, then I guess all the black and Irish players who line up for Leicester City will be handing in transfer requests tomorrow morning after the abuse aimed at Ian Wright and Roy Keane yesterday.

I don't for one minute believe that they don't want to play for Dyche. The way he has moulded a great number of players into high profile and international standard can only be an attractive aspect for any potential incomings. I don't know what the issue is, we don't seem to have moved on much from the previous regime's efforts to bring players in. Maybe it is because of the size of the club? Maybe it is the financial side of things?

Personally I don't think we are afraid to 'push the boat out' a little bit, and I'm expecting more new arrivals will land sooner or later. So many clubs have not 'splashed out' this summer, especially in the Championship where we seem to do a lot of shopping. The effects of the lockdowns etc has clearly affected the way most clubs currently operate.

I'm frustrated too. I'd have loved to have a bit more attacking flair available when Brighton visit on Saturday. But it's never been easy for us. I just don't allow myself to get too down-hearted about it.

[DCWat]

So players don't want to play for us?

Throwing it out there, but perhaps some headlines around a certain banner might be putting off some players?

I'd find it really bizarre if that was the case as its clearly only a very small (if vocal) minority, but if you are being asked to move to a different country, and are a bit meh about it, that sort of thing possibly might be an issue?

I suspect not, but it does seem weird that a lot of players don't want to move, when we can pay better wages than most.

Just as likely that a player would have seen Mee’s response and thought - “that’s the sort of leader, I’d like to play under”.

[s6t9a2f3f]

think the "pressure" is really on because everyone connected with the club know we need some youth, some balance, some quality, some pace and we need it for this season, the other important point is we need 2-3 bodies now as apart from say Mcneill (if he stays), Taylor and Collins plus we dont know what gems are going to come through the youth/under 23 set up we need to recycle an entire team over the next 2-3 windows. Thats why we keep offering lower 30 aged players short contracts because we know we cant get 8-9 through 1 window but the breakdown needs to start this window. People are huffing and puffing to join us now pre season so who are we going to attract in january ? start the thread now "Its notoriously difficult to buy in January - we will do our business in summer".
The other issue is ALK knew the size of the squad, the age of the squad, the players contract details - ON the field what was our plan when they took over in January ? or are we going to have the tweet "we have been shocked how difficult its been to negotiate with agents/clubs/players and admit were out of our depth" ?

[WiscoClaret]

I also want to point out something I believe Dyche (or someone else from Burnley) mentioned before regarding any foreign transfers: Many clubs have an immersion team. Folks who speak several languages, whose job is to help players (and families) not from England get accommodated, To help them shop, find housing and be aware of the laws regarding it as well as driving in the UK, to help their kids get registered for school, to get them into classes to potentially learn English if they so choose (some choose not to learn too.) and more. I remember hearing that those teams were expensive, but necessary if you wanted to recruit from abroad successfully. Whoever did this interview, and I apologize for forgetting, gave this as a major reason why most of our team was from in or around England in the first place...I believe it’s something they looked into and I think are for the future.

[Steddyman]

Well if they don’t want to play for Burnley we don’t want them. If they can find something ‘better’ good luck to them

Translation, you are happy to sign players only no other clubs will have.

[beddie]

I don’t whether it’s true or not about players not wanting to play for us, however, I do think there maybe something in players whilst agreeing a deal, salary etc they’re reluctant to sign a contract if it means them having to take a big drop in wages if we are relegated.I imagine that would apply to most clubs anyway but perhaps we insist on a substantial reduction. Anyway back to the topic, I’m still hopeful we’ll bring a couple more in.

[Woodleyclaret]

Burnley's lack of recruiting foreign players is historic going back to Stans time when any foreign players we did sign struggled to get selected. Dimi Pap being a classic example playing more for Greece than Burnley
Our recruitment has been awful and shambolic hopefully the takeover is the start of a big change in our recruitment

[Rileybobs]

I really don’t think it’s difficult to grasp. We have pretty much reached the peak of the calibre of player that we are able to afford. Criticise the likes of Cork and Westwood all you like, but we simply can’t afford the transfer fees and salaries for significantly better players.

This leaves us shopping in a very limited market. We can attract young players like Collins because we have a track record of giving these players time and stability to develop as players. Furthermore we can offer these players relatively attractive financial packages, and take advantage of the relatively weak financial position of the selling club.

Players like Cornet and Lookman may be content with a move to Burnley, but will in all likelihood know that it’s probably somewhere down the list of their options. They don’t need to rush into signing for us when there are other, more attractive clubs interested. They will bide their time and wait to see what materialises as the transfer window progresses.

We could of course spend our fairly lean kitty on easier targets who don’t improve the squad, but I believe that is what most of you refer to as kicking the can down the road.

[Quicknick]

Complete non story Lancaster.

Reasons foreign players might not want to play for us.

The north is seen as rainy and miserable.
Clubs abroad pay their better players very well. So we don't pay much more.
Hardly anybody speaks other languages in the club.
Foreigners don't appreciate our style of play. They prefer more technical football.

This should make Burnley an attractive proposition for Christie. It is relatively down south for him

[beddie]

Rileybobs. I agree with what you say about spending the lean kitty, however, SD and co must be reluctant to use that money in case one or more of their preferred targets agrees to join us, the problem being of course is that it can be all last minute which could result in us losing out on all of them. Very frustrating for everyone but I guess we’re used to that.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Another rumour to throw into the hat. It sounds like complete ******** but Arthur Gomes for 2.5m Euros from a Brazilian club. I can only imagine if there is any truth in this it is do with ALKs Links

[Rileybobs]

Rileybobs. I agree with what you say about spending the lean kitty, however, SD and co must be reluctant to use that money in case one or more of their preferred targets agrees to join us, the problem being of course is that it can be all last minute which could result in us losing out on all of them. Very frustrating for everyone but I guess we’re used to that.

Yeah, very frustrating indeed but unfortunately it just seems to be the reality of the situation we find ourselves in. We’re a product of our over-achievements.

If we don’t strengthen by the end of the window then we will have failed, but we’ve just got to hope that things fall into place over the next few weeks.

[s6t9a2f3f]

I really don’t think it’s difficult to grasp. We have pretty much reached the peak of the calibre of player that we are able to afford. Criticise the likes of Cork and Westwood all you like, but we simply can’t afford the transfer fees and salaries for significantly better players.

This leaves us shopping in a very limited market. We can attract young players like Collins because we have a track record of giving these players time and stability to develop as players. Furthermore we can offer these players relatively attractive financial packages, and take advantage of the relatively weak financial position of the selling club.

Players like Cornet and Lookman may be content with a move to Burnley, but will in all likelihood know that it’s probably somewhere down the list of their options. They don’t need to rush into signing for us when there are other, more attractive clubs interested. They will bide their time and wait to see what materialises as the transfer window progresses.

We could of course spend our fairly lean kitty on easier targets who don’t improve the squad, but I believe that is what most of you refer to as kicking the can down the road.

Some of our recent signings have been gambles, some recent signings haven't improved the team but have probably improved the squad. Gibson was a disaster (regardless who's fault) although Norwich have seemed to have got a tune out of him, Taylor improves the team now but it took him a awful long time to get to that point and in the same bracket you can put Vid in that mould. Did everybody think Brownhill was a cast iron 100% certainty to be a premier league team regular ? Collins ? will he be a tarks or a Gibson ? who knows only time will tell. Our loans recently have generally been poor and we sold this window a player in Benson (who if we drop could be a decent shout for the 1st team squad) so not sure what the script is to be honest. Everyone is mentioning Lookman who played for a club that got relegated last season and they only scored 9 home goals ? so is he a 1st team regular or a squad improver ?

[taio]

Some of our recent signings have been gambles, some recent signings haven't improved the team but have probably improved the squad. Gibson was a disaster (regardless who's fault) although Norwich have seemed to have got a tune out of him, Taylor improves the team now but it took him a awful long time to get to that point and in the same bracket you can put Vid in that mould. Did everybody think Brownhill was a cast iron 100% certainty to be a premier league team regular ? Collins ? will he be a tarks or a Gibson ? who knows only time will tell. Our loans recently have generally been poor and we sold this window a player in Benson (who if we drop could be a decent shout for the 1st team squad) so not sure what the script is to be honest. Everyone is mentioning Lookman who played for a club that got relegated last season and they only scored 9 home goals ? so is he a 1st team regular or a squad improver ?

Without the benefit hindsight I thought Gibson was a very good signing. Suppose it shows how good Tarkowski and Mee are and very positive the amount of games they are able to play.

[s6t9a2f3f]

Without the benefit hindsight I thought Gibson was a very good signing. Suppose it shows how good Tarkowski and Mee are and very positive the amount of games they are able to play.

The club needs a breath of fresh air, a "andre gray", a "danny ings" something to get the fans back on the edge of their feet, lets be honest which player/s are you really looking to watching week in, week out ? Mcneill maybe whose had to learn his trade on the job thus that's why he has spells of going missing and who else ? which youngster ? which player that might do something "outside the box" ? which player with pace to commit and go past players ? where's the Glenn Little ? where's the Robbie Blake ? its all gone very stale, with a stale squad. It is what it is unfortunately.

[taio]

The club needs a breath of fresh air, a "andre gray", a "danny ings" something to get the fans back on the edge of their feet, lets be honest which player/s are you really looking to watching week in, week out ? Mcneill maybe whose had to learn his trade on the job thus that's why he has spells of going missing and who else ? which youngster ? which player that might do something "outside the box" ? which player with pace to commit and go past players ? where's the Glenn Little ? where's the Robbie Blake ? its all gone very stale, with a stale squad. It is what it is unfortunately.

Andre Gray isn't good enough for us. I'm looking forward to watching all the players especially after the last eighteen months. Can't wait.

[s6t9a2f3f]

Andre Gray isn't good enough for us. I'm looking forward to watching all the players especially after the last eighteen months. Can't wait.

Not buying Andre Gray now, I meant the impact when he played for us, the pace, the goals, beating players - he was a player that lit the club up at the time. We need that type of signing but in today's world to give the club/owners/fans a huge lift.

[taio]

Not buying Andre Gray now, I meant the impact when he played for us, the pace, the goals, beating players - he was a player that lit the club up at the time. We need that type of signing but in today's world to give the club/owners/fans a huge lift.

Fair enough. But I'd rather have the strikers we have than Gray. Excellent for us in the Championship but not good enough at PL level in my view.

[s6t9a2f3f]

Fair enough. But I'd rather have the strikers we have than Gray. Excellent for us in the Championship but not good enough at PL level in my view.

Well we have 4 strikers and only 1 has a cat in hells chance of getting double figures !!!! Would I swop barnes for Gray right now ? Would snap your hand off at least there would be a glimmer of a change from the same old, same old - old being a key word.

[taio]

Well we have 4 strikers and only 1 has a cat in hells chance of getting double figures !!!! Would I swop barnes for Gray right now ? Would snap your hand off at least there would be a glimmer of a change from the same old, same old - old being a key word.

Pretty sure Gray hasn't got double figures in the PL in his four or five seasons playing in that league

[CombatClaret]

Hope so, Leicester and Saints also linked, so if we want RC we'd better make a move ASAP.

Why would he or his agent do an early deal if there is any truth in this?

Once again it will deadline day deals for us because players and agent will want to see if a better offer than us comes along. Or does everyone here end their eBay auctions early after the first bid?

[Vegas Claret]

Be interesting if Christie is named in the Celtic squad today, and if he is whether he plays any part in their match.

starts for them today