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Post by Spijed » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:36 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:15 am
Daily mail linking us with a move for Rob Dickie.

Now this would be a top signing. Best Cb in the championship by some distance
Isn't Nathan Collins highly rated then?

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Post by Jambounchained » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:39 am

Another centre back?

Woo.

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Post by ksrclaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:39 am

Spijed wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:36 am
Isn't Nathan Collins highly rated then?
Jesus wept Spijed. You're getting worse.

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Post by mkmel » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:42 am

I think we were linked with Dickie when he was at Oxford

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Post by Hipper » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:43 am

Paul Waine wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:33 pm
We lived in Den Haag. Loved living in the Netherlands. I had a long w/end in Amsterdam in April 2019, stayed in hotel by Vondel Park. King's birthday w/end. I'd have been back at least once since then if it wasn't for lockdowns.

I don't think we need to worry too much about the club not looking after new players signed from outside UK and Ireland. We might not have done a lot of this in the past. I see no reason why we can't be confident that Alan Pace and his colleagues can't ensure that any new signings aren't provided everything they need to settle quickly and successfully both around the club and in their social life away from the club (whatever that may be). Remember, the club's new owners are all re-locating themselves to Burnley and have re-located themselves many times before. Alan Pace moved to Barcelona from the US and his career in finance has included time in both London and US. I think I'm right in saying that he also moved around as a youngster with his father's work.

I don't know Maxwel Cornet's background and football history. Maybe he has a special reason why he should want to choose Bundesliga and Berlin over Premier League and Burnley. He could live in Manchester, if he feels he must live in a big city.

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:43 am

Ric_C wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:24 am
Watching the Newcastle v West Ham game was a bit frightening.

Saint-Maximin, Bowen, Benrahma, Wilson, Antonio etc

Mid table sides have at least two players who can stretch teams, at the moment we have zero
Interesting thing about this is both ASM and Antonio were ridiculed in their first/early seasons. Seem to remember Antonio in particular getting a lot of stick from WHU fans over the last 5 years or so, before coming good.

Benrahma hardly played (or scored) last year and Wilson was out injured a lot from memory (but scored a lot when he played).

I’d say only Bowen really hit the ground running and has had a couple of good, consistent seasons. Worrying in the sense that is what we need from whoever we sign and players take time to adjust.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:43 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:35 am
No chance we are in for another centre back, in this window at least…
Unless Tarks leaves at the last minute to West Ham

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:45 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:33 am
Weird how media works isn't it?

And also, would we be in for a CB?
Not a RCB, for sure.

Also, googled him and one report from February from a QPR fan site is headlined “Is Rob Dickie QPR’s weak link?”… does t sound like his form has always put him as the best CB in the Championship.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:46 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:43 am
Unless Tarks leaves at the last minute to West Ham
I've seen random people on Twitter say Southampton are in for him, but they aren't from credible sources. Weird how folk can just say stuff and it gathers momentum.

Tarkowski to West Ham makes more sense for his ambition I guess.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:53 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:45 am
Not a RCB, for sure.

Also, googled him and one report from February from a QPR fan site is headlined “Is Rob Dickie QPR’s weak link?”… does t sound like his form has always put him as the best CB in the Championship.
To be fair there a similar comments on both Cornet and Collins. Doesn’t mean they aren’t good players.

In my opinion he’s currently the best CB in the league below

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:56 am

Think if we get a £20 million bid for Tarks (and he wants to go) then he's off this window

And I think I'd rather sell him then lose for nothing on a free

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:58 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:56 am
Think if we get a £20 million bid for Tarks (and he wants to go) then he's off this window

And I think I'd rather sell him then lose for nothing on a free
Yes I think if this happens we would need to go in for someone like Dickie as an immediate replacement.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:21 am

mkmel wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:42 am
I think we were linked with Dickie when he was at Oxford
We were

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:33 am

The problem with selling Tarky is that we have first hand evidence now that money in the bank does not always equate to spending on the team later.

So on that basis I would keep him as it helps ensure PL football one more time while the new owner strategy beds in.

I accept though that if the new owners have a desire to spend sales on players it could improve us, but it would be a big risk from our perspective until they prove both the intent and the ability to do this.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:35 am

"It is definitely getting closer"
Nixon just now when asked if the Cornet bid has been accepted

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Post by Steddyman » Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:51 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:35 am
No chance we are in for another centre back, in this window at least…
True. More likely another goalkeeper.

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Post by ArmchairDetective » Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:56 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:35 am
"It is definitely getting closer"
Nixon just now when asked if the Cornet bid has been accepted
To add:
He's also replied saying 'money talks' when asked if it'll be difficult to convince Cornet to join, and seems to think all are in agreement about signing him including Dyche.
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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:00 pm

Is it looking imminent/a breakthrough has been made then with Cornet? Could he be in before the weekend...

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Post by dibraidio » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:03 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:56 am
Think if we get a £20 million bid for Tarks (and he wants to go) then he's off this window

And I think I'd rather sell him then lose for nothing on a free
Not surprised that we are still sounding out defenders when there are still stories around linking Tarkowski to West Ham.
https://thisisfutbol.com/2021/08/blogs/ ... owski-bid/

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:04 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:15 am
Daily mail linking us with a move for Rob Dickie.

Now this would be a top signing. Best Cb in the championship by some distance
We were linked with him when he was at Oxford but he went to QPR

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:04 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:00 pm
Is it looking imminent/a breakthrough has been made then with Cornet? Could he be in before the weekend...
Hasn’t pace confirmed all potential deals will go right down to the wire?

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:08 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:04 pm
Hasn’t pace confirmed all potential deals will go right down to the wire?
Yeah but cornet probably won’t/cant because Lyon need to sell to buy and Liverpool also need shaquiri sold to replace. Therefore we are first in the chain so can’t go right until the end of window...

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Post by Culmclaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:11 pm

Sounds like Cornet likes his brass...

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:22 pm

Culmclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:11 pm
Sounds like Cornet likes his brass...
Who doesn’t. Don’t know what his Lyon wage is but I bet we can beat it. Also I bet we outdo hertha.

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Post by Culmclaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:25 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:22 pm
Who doesn’t. Don’t know what his Lyon wage is but I bet we can beat it. Also I bet we outdo hertha.

Sorry! It was a feeble joke.....

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Post by jackmiggins » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:25 pm

Deluded - we have obviously missed out on any expert catches. Personally, I'd take a Geoff Nulty over an over rated exhibitionist.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:27 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:22 pm
Who doesn’t. Don’t know what his Lyon wage is but I bet we can beat it. Also I bet we outdo hertha.
You have to take it with a pinch of salt but according to salary sport he is currently on 49k a week. I assume if he comes in it will be for more money and will probably make him the highest earner at the club.

In regards to Hertha they apparently have a couple of there start players on the 80-90k a week mark. The rest all vary between 30-50k a week. I imagine Cornet would be in the higher bracket if he signs for them.

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:28 pm

Culmclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:25 pm
Sorry! It was a feeble joke.....
Oh **** yeah. Too many of them on this thread they don’t register any more!!

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Post by CFS » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:10 pm

So we are signing cornet knowing full well he's he doesn't want to be here and is here for the money. Dyche is accepting this I take it? Legs money minds I take it.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:12 pm

CFS wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:10 pm
So we are signing cornet knowing full well he's he doesn't want to be here and is here for the money. Dyche is accepting this I take it? Legs money minds I take it.
I know some people like to have any dig possible at Dyche but this is fairly stupid.

How many players do you think are at Burnley for the money ?

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Post by martin_p » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:13 pm

CFS wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:10 pm
So we are signing cornet knowing full well he's he doesn't want to be here and is here for the money. Dyche is accepting this I take it? Legs money minds I take it.
How many of our players aren’t here for the money?
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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:21 pm

Don't know where that one has appeared from again but he would be a fantastic signing for us, particularly with the size of our squad and his versatility. If we somehow got him and Cornet I would be beyond delighted.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:21 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:15 pm
Clarets lead Maitland-Niles race

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... id-3348890
Seens to rehash a Skybet ' article '

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Post by RVclaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:22 pm

Yeah that Burnley express link is just quoting rumours found elsewhere. Can’t seem to find the latest AMN one?

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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:24 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:22 pm
Yeah that Burnley express link is just quoting rumours found elsewhere. Can’t seem to find the latest AMN one?
In classic clickbait style, its the last 'rumour' on there

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:26 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:24 pm
In classic clickbait style, its the last 'rumour' on there
Written by Jason Jones who works for JPI Media rather than directly at the Burnley Express and has 200 followers.
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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:35 pm

They have purely looked to see if were the shortest odds sign anyone and put it up as a story, nothing more.

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Post by Conroy92 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:43 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:24 am
Watching the Newcastle v West Ham game was a bit frightening.

Saint-Maximin, Bowen, Benrahma, Wilson, Antonio etc

Mid table sides have at least two players who can stretch teams, at the moment we have zero
We actually have two players who can stretch the opposition. McNeil and Taylor. The problem is they both play down the same side.
With a decent right midfielder/winger I think we'll start to test teams again and find the gaps.

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Post by ArmchairDetective » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:09 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:00 pm
Is it looking imminent/a breakthrough has been made then with Cornet? Could he be in before the weekend...
"Both sides of the deal look much closer now... sooner the better..."

Referring to fee and player terms

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Post by dibraidio » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:21 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:22 pm
Yeah that Burnley express link is just quoting rumours found elsewhere. Can’t seem to find the latest AMN one?
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/08/17/w ... -year-old/

According to this link Arsenal are trying to offload Reiss Nelson and AMN. No link with us though. Suggestions that Nelson is on 50K a week and likely to join Brighton or Palace on loan.

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Post by Zom Zom » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:43 pm

I don't get this 'he doesn't want to be here' stuff. If that was true he wouldn't even be talking to us yet we are apparently making progress.

Berlin may be more attractive to him, but there is much more than cobbled streets and cotton mills here. The area has seen many former players take up residence locally.

If he likes the lights and sights of city life, Manchester and Liverpool are not a million miles away. Football-wise, he would be right on the doorstep of some of the biggest clubs in the country. There is every incentive right there. Catch the eye of City, Utd, Liverpool... who knows what his next step will be.

We know next to nothing about him yet he is being blindly judged because it would be an un-Dyche-like signing. We are calling for progression on our playing style, yet pick holes when we look for something different.

The mind boggles.
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Post by BenWickes » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:46 pm

Zom Zom wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:43 pm
I don't get this 'he doesn't want to be here' stuff. If that was true he wouldn't even be talking to us yet we are apparently making progress.

Berlin may be more attractive to him, but there is much more than cobbled streets and cotton mills here. The area has seen many former players take up residence locally.

If he likes the lights and sights of city life, Manchester and Liverpool are not a million miles away. Football-wise, he would be right on the doorstep of some of the biggest clubs in the country. There is every incentive right there. Catch the eye of City, Utd, Liverpool... who knows what his next step will be.

We know next to nothing about him yet he is being blindly judged because it would be an un-Dyche-like signing. We are calling for progression on our playing style, yet pick holes when we look for something different.

The mind boggles.
This post is far, far, far too sensible :lol:
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Post by WiscoClaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:47 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:27 pm
You have to take it with a pinch of salt but according to salary sport he is currently on 49k a week. I assume if he comes in it will be for more money and will probably make him the highest earner at the club.

In regards to Hertha they apparently have a couple of there start players on the 80-90k a week mark. The rest all vary between 30-50k a week. I imagine Cornet would be in the higher bracket if he signs for them.
The real question is: Is that “49k a week” in euros or Sterling. My guess is Euros. If so, we can easily exceed that and he still wouldn’t be the highest paid player. Plus he would be assured bonuses when we stay up. (Like the optimism there? I’m trying something new...hahah!)
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Post by BleedingClaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:48 pm

dibraidio wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:21 pm
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/08/17/w ... -year-old/

According to this link Arsenal are trying to offload Reiss Nelson and AMN. No link with us though. Suggestions that Nelson is on 50K a week and likely to join Brighton or Palace on loan.
I watched Arsenal the other day, they could do with someone like that Joe Willock from Newcastle
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Post by BenWickes » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:54 pm

WiscoClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:47 pm
The real question is: Is that “49k a week” in euros or Sterling. My guess is Euros. If so, we can easily exceed that and he still wouldn’t be the highest paid player. Plus he would be assured bonuses when we stay up. (Like the optimism there? I’m trying something new...hahah!)
I like your way of thinking. Pay him in Rubles. He'll think he's earning 50,000 a week when in fact it's just £494 a week. Get the contract in front of him and accidentally on purpose cover over the currency symbol.

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Post by WiscoClaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:00 pm

Aaron Lennon did a full 90 alongside Gomez-Mancini, Richardson, Bobby Thomas, Nathan Collins, Vyds, Barnes, Pieters, Bardsley (and I can’t pick out the rest...) in a behind closed doors friendly at Manchester United. We lost 3-1. Barnes was booked but I don’t know who our scorer was. Lingard, Maguire, and Fred scored to my knowledge.

The reason this is relevant to transfers: Aaron Lennon is assuredly joining us. No way he’d show up on match day AND being playing this friendly if he wasn’t... even if it was a favor from Dyche.

This also lets us know that Gomez-Mancini has broke into the first team thinking. He may get a debut this year. Lewis Richardson is clearly there as well. He has already debuted as of last year doing expertly IMO. We MAY have a ready made backup PL level striker in Richardson. He needs game time and maybe a loan to a championship side.

This team is probably our Carabao Cup team with one or two additions.

This also seems to be telling me Dyche may prefer Jay Rod to Vyds OR that Vyds is still not match fit. (He did just get married and take vacation.)

So... add in Cornet maybe... all arrows point in that direction, Lennon for sure, and we have a team that can compete this season. Gomez Mancini is a better back up than Stephens IMO so best to cast off the deadwood and focus on strengthening CM in January or next Summer.

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Post by WiscoClaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:03 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:54 pm
I like your way of thinking. Pay him in Rubles. He'll think he's earning 50,000 a week when in fact it's just £494 a week. Get the contract in front of him and accidentally on purpose cover over the currency symbol.
😂
Wasn’t going to go there but I like the way you think too!

I just mean, £ are worth more than €. If he’s on 49k€ a week right now, we can exceed that easily (so long as our wage structure is still in tact as I type this), if that happens to be 49k£ then we are getting very close to the top end of our wages...I think.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:07 pm

I'm sure we were told that Aaron Lennon is simply with us to build up his fitness and to train with us. Similar to the David Jones situation a few years ago. Right?

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by WiscoClaret » Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:11 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:07 pm
I'm sure we were told that Aaron Lennon is simply with us to build up his fitness and to train with us. Similar to the David Jones situation a few years ago. Right?
We were! Recently though, press asked Dyche if there was any prospect of him signing. Dyche said that they have spoken about a potential deal.

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