Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[warksclaret]

Just been linked with a move for Will Hughes at Watford by Sami Mokbel at the Mail. £5million, Palace also interested.

Would be as good a signing as Westwood was a few years ago.Our type of player

[Dodobdobodobo]

I dont blame him if hes not unfit! Hope he stays

[ewanrob]

We will need a striker.

You suggesting Vydra on his way

[burnley007]

You suggesting Vydra on his way

Absolutely

[Hedontplayforyou]

Sauce?

[beddie]

Definitely bullshit. A 'knock'? Seriously.
He's leaving. Definitely

I must admit when I read “ a knock” I thought that’s the usual spiel they put out. I too think he’s discussing a move but I wouldn’t blame him. He’s a talented lad and needs game time.

[burnley007]

I must admit when I read “ a knock” I thought that’s the usual spiel they put out. I too think he’s discussing a move but I wouldn’t blame him. He’s a talented lad and needs game time.

He can only be leaving if we're signing a new forward, surely?? We NEED goals. Dyche has talked about it for months, creating chances, but not taking them. Should have been 3-0 up at half time last week...missed chances again today.

[KRBFC]

It is a shame that a large percentage of this messageboard at least have turned on Barnes. They’re very disloyal and fickle.

I mean we can stand still and keep reminiscing about Barnes' performances 3 years ago if you want, football is a ruthless game, no time for sentiment, I loved Vokes but his time was up.

[KRBFC]

I think most sensible people would agree that Barnes is probably our fourth best striker as things stand.

Why insult Dyche like that?

[Dark Cloud]

I mean we can stand still and keep reminiscing about Barnes' performances 3 years ago if you want, football is a ruthless game, no time for sentiment, I loved Vokes but his time was up.

Like most people I often have trouble agreeing with KRBFC, but he's right about this. I'm a Barnes fan and always will be, but we HAVE to upgrade, just like we were prepared to do with the brilliant Sam Vokes.

[jrgbfc]

Demari Gray having another good game for Everton today. Can't believe we weren't in for this lad when he was available for absolute peanuts.

[MACCA]

Demari Gray having another good game for Everton today. Can't believe we weren't in for this lad when he was available for absolute peanuts.

Too young, too quick, too creative, and not injured.
Also chips in with goals and assists.

Much better with poppodom legs and a Lennon type battling for our 2nd right back spot.

[lrac]

Hey clarets just got home .imo we played well I feel we need help on the right mf.and upfront .Barnes played ok .the fans as always were superb .keep the faith big week coming up regarding signings .just my opinion. Utc

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Demari Gray having another good game for Everton today. Can't believe we weren't in for this lad when he was available for absolute peanuts.

Pretty sure we won’t be competing with Everton on wages!

[RVclaret]

Demari Gray having another good game for Everton today. Can't believe we weren't in for this lad when he was available for absolute peanuts.

Maybe we were but he had zero interest in joining us when Everton were already keen?

[jtv]

Wasn't Vydra subbed in the old Trafford game? The "knock" could be genuine

[Vegas Claret]

If we sell Vydra we will be the most one dimensional team I've ever seen

[RVclaret]

No chance we are selling Vydra, where has this nonsense come from? He was subbed at 55 minutes midweek at Old Trafford clearly due to a knock.

[warksclaret]

Vydra is going nowhere-we need his running up front

[BenWickes]

Hold the front page. Harvey Barnes has signed for us. Well according to Jermaine Beckford on Final Score

[brexit]

vydra is off to leeds

[Vegas Claret]

Chief football writer of the Daily Mail saying we are making a 5 million bid for Will Hughes.

[jrgbfc]

Pretty sure we won’t be competing with Everton on wages!

We could have been in for him when he left Leicester to go to Germany. Show a bit of imagination, Jarrod Bowen had been banging goals in for about 18 months before West Ham took a chance on him.
We seem to sit twiddling our thumbs then complain when bigger clubs beat us to the punch. Too many of our fans are willing to swallow the rubbish that "the players aren't out there".

[BenWickes]

Chief football writer of the Daily Mail saying we are making a 5 million bid for Will Hughes.

I can certainly see him fitting in the midfield. He's a Dyche type player.

[Vegas Claret]

Chief football writer of the Daily Mail saying we are making a 5 million bid for Will Hughes.

As I can't edit the post
https://twitter.com/SamiMokbel81_DM/sta ... 03489?s=20

[RVclaret]

Already been posted but thanks for that!

[Rileybobs]

I must admit when I read “ a knock” I thought that’s the usual spiel they put out. I too think he’s discussing a move but I wouldn’t blame him. He’s a talented lad and needs game time.

When was the last time that we said a player had a knock and then sold them? I wouldn’t call it the usual spiel.

And as for game time. He was starting week in week out in the second half of last season and I would expect him to be back in the side when fit.

[Rileybobs]

I mean we can stand still and keep reminiscing about Barnes' performances 3 years ago if you want, football is a ruthless game, no time for sentiment, I loved Vokes but his time was up.

Not sure why people keep misrepresenting what I said. Im not talking about sentiment or standing still, I’m talking about the posters who have turned on Barnes with unnecessary comments. Like I said, they’re disloyal and fickle - pretty sure they’d have been celebrating his equaliser today had he been onside.

[Jakubclaret]

We could have been in for him when he left Leicester to go to Germany. Show a bit of imagination, Jarrod Bowen had been banging goals in for about 18 months before West Ham took a chance on him.
We seem to sit twiddling our thumbs then complain when bigger clubs beat us to the punch. Too many of our fans are willing to swallow the rubbish that "the players aren't out there".

Spot on, the players are & have always been available, I wouldn’t necessarily say bigger clubs as well, Cardiff & Fulham didn’t seem to have any problems encouraging Wilson through the door, I can name other examples we just don’t seem to be at the races hence the missed opportunities.

[ksrclaret]

Whilst Will Hughes isn’t the flying winger with bags of pace many want, I think he’d be a really astute addition. He’s played the right midfield role in a 442 for Watford very successfully in the past, and I could see him moving into the centre long term.

We absolutely cannot end the window with no more incomings though (and I don’t include Lennon). Our bench today, and our squad overall, is pathetic in terms of depth.

[BenWickes]

We could have been in for him when he left Leicester to go to Germany. Show a bit of imagination, Jarrod Bowen had been banging goals in for about 18 months before West Ham took a chance on him.
We seem to sit twiddling our thumbs then complain when bigger clubs beat us to the punch. Too many of our fans are willing to swallow the rubbish that "the players aren't out there".

Understand your point but Jermaine Beckford, who apparently knows him well and he went into detail about it today. Says he wanted to play more centrally. Even Brendan Rodgers who is known for giving youngsters a chance got fed up with him. Which suggests a disruptive character.
Maybe he suits a central role but he'd definitely not suit our set up as it currently is if he was rocking the boat over where his preferred position was and then sulk if he wasn't played there. Beckford intimated Gray rather than Rodgers was the one upsetting that particular apple cart.
Maybe that's why we weren't in for him for that reason.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Understand your point but Jermaine Beckford, who apparently knows him well and he went into detail about it today. Says he wanted to play more centrally. Even Brendan Rodgers who is known for giving youngsters a chance got fed up with him. Which suggests a disruptive character.
Maybe he suits a central role but he'd definitely not suit our set up as it currently is if he was rocking the boat over where his preferred position was and then sulk if he wasn't played there. Beckford intimated Gray rather than Rodgers was the one upsetting that particular apple cart.
Maybe that's why we weren't in for him for that reason.

Would make sense about his character with how well Dyche knows Rodgers.

[jrgbfc]

Understand your point but Jermaine Beckford, who apparently knows him well and he went into detail about it today. Says he wanted to play more centrally. Even Brendan Rodgers who is known for giving youngsters a chance got fed up with him. Which suggests a disruptive character.
Maybe he suits a central role but he'd definitely not suit our set up as it currently is if he was rocking the boat over where his preferred position was and then sulk if he wasn't played there. Beckford intimated Gray rather than Rodgers was the one upsetting that particular apple cart.
Maybe that's why we weren't in for him for that reason.

Fair enough about Gray, but the point still stands that the players are out there. We choose to limit ourselves by shopping in such a narrow pool of players.

[Belial]

Can defo see the Will Hughes link happening. A Burnley type signing....although Watford fans seem to think he's worth much more than the 5m quoted

[lrac]

Not sure why people keep misrepresenting what I said. Im not talking about sentiment or standing still, I’m talking about the posters who have turned on Barnes with unnecessary comments. Like I said, they’re disloyal and fickle - pretty sure they’d have been celebrating his equaliser today had he Ash did ok today

[JohnDearyMe]

Can defo see the Will Hughes link happening. A Burnley type signing....although Watford fans seem to think he's worth much more than the 5m quoted

Was just going to ask about that. Is he out of contract soon? Seems a modest price for a fairly established top flight midfielder

[KRBFC]

Not sure why people keep misrepresenting what I said. Im not talking about sentiment or standing still, I’m talking about the posters who have turned on Barnes with unnecessary comments. Like I said, they’re disloyal and fickle - pretty sure they’d have been celebrating his equaliser today had he been onside.

but what a weird point to make? of course they would've been celebrating his equaliser? stating an opinion he's not good enough anymore doesn't mean you wont support whoever is playing on the pitch for us. I think there's a couple that need upgrading, I still want my team to win regardless of who plays and who doesn't.

[summitclaret]

It's not the price, it's what we have allegedly bid.

[Rileybobs]

but what a weird point to make? of course they would've been celebrating his equaliser? stating an opinion he's not good enough anymore doesn't mean you wont support whoever is playing on the pitch for us. I think there's a couple that need upgrading, I still want my team to win regardless of who plays and who doesn't.

I’m criticising the people who aren’t supporting Barnes, not those who are.

[warksclaret]

Was just going to ask about that. Is he out of contract soon? Seems a modest price for a fairly established top flight midfielder

OOC at the end of this season.Not been featuring this season

[Hedontplayforyou]

Hughes wouldn’t sign a new contract so apparently Watford have frozen him out, speculation is that his agent is to blame rather than Hughes , which is what really irritates me about the whole agent game. Too much power for what is mostly greed on their part.

[Rileybobs]

A couple of Watford supporting mates of mine are gutted that Hughes won’t re-sign.

[Lancasterclaret]

I’m criticising the people who aren’t supporting Barnes, not those who are.

I'll support whichever 11 players wear the shirt, but I think Barnes is on a downward spiral and we desperately need refreshing with different options up front.

No one is doubting how good he's been for us, its just that he looks the weakest of what we have

[Rileybobs]

I'll support whichever 11 players wear the shirt, but I think Barnes is on a downward spiral and we desperately need refreshing with different options up front.

No one is doubting how good he's been for us, its just that he looks the weakest of what we have

In which case I’m not criticising you. I’m calling out some of the disrespectful and unnecessary comments that I’ve seen on this forum about Barnes over the past 12 months. I’m surprised at the level of controversy my view holds to be honest, considering what he’s achieved with the club.

[Lancasterclaret]

In which case I’m not criticising you. I’m calling out some of the disrespectful and unnecessary comments that I’ve seen on this forum about Barnes over the past 12 months. I’m surprised at the level of controversy my view holds to be honest, considering what he’s achieved with the club.

Thought it was his best game for at least a couple of seasons today, but even so, couple of relatively simple passes which would have put us in great possessions were messed up, and he did miss the best chance.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think this team is going to hit the wall at around the same time, and we really do need to move a couple of them along while we still can

[Vegas Claret]

we can't continue with the lack of pace

[Murger]

We have a serious lack of pace, and the 1 player we do have with a bit is 'injured'.
Ps: I don't for 1 minute believe Vydra is injured.

[Rileybobs]

Thought it was his best game for at least a couple of seasons today, but even so, couple of relatively simple passes which would have put us in great possessions were messed up, and he did miss the best chance.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think this team is going to hit the wall at around the same time, and we really do need to move a couple of them along while we still can

Thought he was one of our best players today tbh. Thought his touch was excellent and he was involved in most of our good play. He was unlucky with a couple of chances and I would credit his late miss more to a very good save, although he probably should have lifted it over the keeper.

He never looked fit last season and didn’t get a run in the side. That said I’d be happy for either Barnes or Jay to move on to make room for another striker who can offer us something a bit different. There are just a lot of fickle fans who are too quick to turn against a player who has served this club very well for a long period of time.

[boatshed bill]

We have a serious lack of pace, and the 1 player we do have with a bit is 'injured'.
Ps: I don't for 1 minute believe Vydra is injured.

Well, he went off after 55 minutes against Man Utd in the week.
Make of it what you will

[Rileybobs]

We have a serious lack of pace, and the 1 player we do have with a bit is 'injured'.
Ps: I don't for 1 minute believe Vydra is injured.

Why not, out of interest? Do you believe Westwood is injured?