Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Vegas Claret]

for the money being talked about for Cornet we could probably get Christie and Hughes

[Hedontplayforyou]

Hughes is going Palace by the looks of the reports

Potential agent talk to ramp up our bid on Hughes I hear , I believe a certain reporter on Twitter who writes for the sun used to be involved with agents?

[MACCA]

If Cornet does sign would we lose him for a while at the Africa nations cup?

Yes.
I'm not sure if Nigeria are in it, but I'm sure I saw Watford had 3 Nigerian players ( who started the game ) and 5 in total that could go the ACOF if their nation has qualified.

[NewClaret]

AMN on the bench for Arsenal

[Spijed]

AMN on the bench for Arsenal

Harry Kane played for Spurs today but you wouldn't bet on him not being sold.

[joey13]

I hope you all realize if Cornet signs ,then McNeil will be on his way

[Iloveyoubrady]

Nope... they will play on opposite wings.

[Hedontplayforyou]

AMN on the bench for Arsenal

Kolasinac also on their bench who is thought to be on his way out

[Spijed]

I hope you all realize if Cornet signs ,then McNeil will be on his way

Hmmm

[AlargeClaret]

Maitland-Niles Fav to come here with bookies ,could be good business all round

[ksrclaret]

I hope you all realize if Cornet signs ,then McNeil will be on his way

Sauce?

[Silkyskills1]

I hope you all realize if Cornet signs ,then McNeil will be on his way

You've stated that unequivocally so the serious question is, how do you know?

[Rileybobs]

You've stated that unequivocally so the serious question is, how do you know?

He doesn’t, he’s just made it up.

[BOYSIE31]

I don’t think we penny pinch at all. It’s just a fact that we don’t have the money to spend on players when the financial commitment goes beyond what we can justify or afford.

But we keep splashing out for 3 rd choice centre halves - so we will have more money to spend

[BOYSIE31]

Yes.
I'm not sure if Nigeria are in it, but I'm sure I saw Watford had 3 Nigerian players ( who started the game ) and 5 in total that could go the ACOF if their nation has qualified.

Whats Nigeria got to with him - he is from the ivory coast

[MACCA]

But we keep splashing out for 3 rd choice centre halves - so we will have more money to spend

Who will be 1st choice next season, and also good cover for if Mee and/or Tarky get injured.
We cannot rely on Long or Thomas to step in.

We've done the right thing with getting Collins in now, hopefully he will mirror what Tarky did when he was bought for when Keane moved on.

I just hope we do that in a few other areas of the team, like RB, CM and ST

[MACCA]

Whats Nigeria got to with him - he is from the ivory coast

Pointing out other teams have ACON players so will lose a player or 5 when the competition starts.

[taio]

But we keep splashing out for 3 rd choice centre halves - so we will have more money to spend

We absolutely needed another centre half.

[BOYSIE31]

I’m amazed some need to ask.

Why just because you don't like the sun or Nixon doing his job as a sports reporter - you don't like to see him do his job and the contacts he obviously has in the business

[ClaretTony]

Why just because you don't like the sun or Nixon doing his job as a sports reporter - you don't like to see him do his job and the contacts he obviously has in the business

Nixon? What a ridiculous comment. I don’t think he was around in 1989.

[taio]

Why just because you don't like the sun or Nixon doing his job as a sports reporter - you don't like to see him do his job and the contacts he obviously has in the business

CT was specifically referring to the newspaper not Nixon. Seems like you're trying to put words in his mouth for some reason.

[joey13]

You've stated that unequivocally so the serious question is, how do you know?

We have no money

[joey13]

Nope... they will play on opposite wings.

No they don’t

[Iloveyoubrady]

No they don’t

Ummmm yeah they do. And they will if we sign him...

[kazza]

I hope you all realize if Cornet signs ,then McNeil will be on his way

Cornet seems to prefer JBG's role. But he's not coming anyway, so pointless discussing it.

[NewClaret]

Sauce?

Brown. Very smelly brown.

[joey13]

Ummmm yeah they do. And they will if we sign him...

Playing on the left at present

[taio]

Playing on the left at present

Dyche has a track record of playing inverted wingers

[joey13]

Dyche has a track record of playing inverted wingers

Agreed but at present he doesn’t play on the opposite wing to McNeil

[BenWickes]

We have no money

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[Iloveyoubrady]

Agreed but at present he doesn’t play on the opposite wing to McNeil

At present he plays left wing back. It is fairly obvious we want him as a winger - and he has played both left and right wings. Lot during his career.

[ksrclaret]

Agreed but at present he doesn’t play on the opposite wing to McNeil

You might have had the good grace then to phrase your post about McNeil leaving with “I suspect” or “I reckon” rather than state it as fact.

Really very poor from you.

[Culmclaret]

He is supposed to prefer/be better on the right and the Lyon fan’s can’t understand why he has been played in the left

[joey13]

At present he plays left wing back. It is fairly obvious we want him as a winger - and he has played both left and right wings. Lot during his career.

So he plays on the opposite wing to McNeil then

[joey13]

You might have had the good grace then to phrase your post about McNeil leaving with “I suspect” or “I reckon” rather than state it as fact.

Really very poor from you.

Nah I’m ok , thanks though

[joey13]

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Where have you been ?

[kazza]

Dyche has a track record of playing inverted wingers

Yeah. Not sure what he's playing at with McNeil on the left.

[ksrclaret]

Nah I’m ok , thanks though

If you’re clueless, that’s fine. But don’t go shouting about it and leaving everyone in no doubt. Basics.

[taio]

Yeah. Not sure what he's playing at with McNeil on the left.

I clearly wasnt referring to McNeil

[Long Time Lurker]

for the money being talked about for Cornet we could probably get Christie and Hughes

... and baring any serious bidding from other clubs, still have change left over to pick up Dan Barlaser, Abdou Harroui, or Anthony Caci. Caci might prove a bit difficult given the short time left in the window for Strasbourg to bring in a replacement. Still, he is in the last year of his contract which might sway a sale now or the next window. Maybe now with a loan until the next window if it goes down to the wire. He can play left back, right back ( has played centre back, but he is too slight to do that in the PL ) and I think he could do well on either wing. Reasonable pace, good defensive skills, excellent crosser and plays well with both feet.

I do think we need to bolster our development ranks by spending a bit of cash on some youngsters during this window, even if it means letting them play out the season at their existing clubs.

If I'm not mistaken the contracts of Richardson, Thomas, Gomez Mancini, Thompson, Harker and Glennon all come to an end in 2020.

It is all well and good for people to latch onto the media hype that is currently being generated about our development squad players, but one or more of them could decide to walk instead of signing a new deal. That would leave us with a stalled conveyor belt and some cushion the blow development fees.

Even going by my limited knowledge a number of names crop up.

Out of contract in 2021

Fredrik Andre Bjorkan ( Bodo / Glimt ) and Henrik Heggheim ( Viking FK )

Out of contract in 2022

Patrick Berg ( Bodo / Glimt ), Jamie McGrath ( St MIrren ), Thomas Holmes ( Reading ), ( Kerr McInroy ( Celtic ), Jón Dagur Thorsteinsson ( Aarhus GF ), Conor McCarthy ( St MIrren ) and Nathanael Ogbeta ( Shrewsbury Town ).

I'm sure a lot more are out there.

What gets me is that we seem to repeat the same scenario window after window. It has been like groundhog day for the last five windows.

We look for £10m+ players who can make a difference now or in a short space of time.

We fail to sign anyone and then we try again the season after, experiencing the same.

Had we spent money buying young players five windows ago we might have better options available to us now. A couple of hundred grand spent here and there, or more for quality players like Berg and we could put ourselves in a much stronger position.

Everyone seems to be overly concerned with what we need right now to preserve our Premier League position and little to no thought is spent on the sort of team we would be left to work with if we got relegated. We were lucky last season, because three teams didn't show up and Sheffield United had an epic meltdown. I don't think that is going to be the case this season and our job will be a far more difficult.

Should the worst happen what would we have to work with after a relegation ?

Who would be sold, who would leave us on a free instead of signing a new contract if another team came calling, who would we be left with and how much of the cash from player sales and parachute payments would be available to rebuild the squad ( after we pay down any debts ).

Just as importantly how attractive will we be to new players and how will we find working with all the secondary leagues in Europe closed off to us and domestic teams reluctant to sell because they are in the same boat. Brexit has made Championship recruitment far more difficult than it was and I'm not confident we realise that.

We need to prepare for the best and the worst case scenarios, which means making the most of our Premier League status and attraction now. We might not be able to overshadow many of the other Premier League teams, but we can lord it over most of the Championship clubs. The only thing that many of them have as a selling point is regular playing time, which we can also offer if we send any new players out on loan to develop.

[joey13]

If you’re clueless, that’s fine. But don’t go shouting about it and leaving everyone in no doubt. Basics.

Shouting ?
It’s obvious we have no money, the only way someone is brought in is to sell , basics .

[ksrclaret]

Shouting ?
It’s obvious we have no money, the only way someone is brought in is to sell , basics .

I’m sure you’ll be happy to revisit this on the 1st September.

[Long Time Lurker]

Dyche has a track record of playing inverted wingers

Dyche has a track record of working with we've got.

JBG plays on the right because he is the best we have for that position. The fact that he is left footed is an after thought. He does okay with his right. Brady played there when we had no other options and Lennon is right footed. Dwight wasn't very good when we played him on the right.

[BOYSIE31]

Nixon? What a ridiculous comment. I don’t think he was around in 1989.

So all because of Hillsborough then - I agree was bad and that's why it's never sold in Liverpool but that was over 30 years ago

[Iloveyoubrady]

Shouting ?
It’s obvious we have no money, the only way someone is brought in is to sell , basics .

We’ll see won’t we...

[kazza]

Apologies for posting something regarding transfer window rumours, but

Burnley negotiating personal terms with Maxwel Cornet after agreeing fee
https://sportslens.com/burnley-negotiat ... ee/381983/

[ClaretTony]

So all because of Hillsborough then - I agree was bad and that's why it's never sold in Liverpool but that was over 30 years ago

I don’t care how long it is, and they resurrected it all again four years ago although they did print an apology of sorts for that. I wouldn’t touch a copy of the paper and I will not look at it online.

[Long Time Lurker]

Shouting ?
It’s obvious we have no money, the only way someone is brought in is to sell , basics .

I don't think we have much money either, but that doesn't stop us doing business. We can or could buy players and pay for them over the course of their contract.

So we could pay everything up front for a single £10m player or we could sign four players at £10m each on 4 year contracts and pay £2.5m per year for each of them ( for a total of £10m ).

The problem is that the money still needs to be paid and as my quick calculation shows signing four players in that manner could add £10m per year to our outgoings for a period of 4 years. Add that to our interest payments on the Dell debt, and the money we have to put aside to pay what is owed to the old shareholders, and things start to look dicey.

So we can theoretically buy players without selling, but not many.

[Jakubs Tash]

Dyche has a track record of working with we've got.

JBG plays on the right because he is the best we have for that position. The fact that he is left footed is an after thought. He does okay with his right. Brady played there when we had no other options and Lennon is right footed. Dwight wasn't very good when we played him on the right.

No, JBG plays on the right because that’s the position he has played throughout most of his career to date.

You can keep coming out with your alternative names and guessing their values all you want but maybe, just maybe, Dyche wants Cornet. Maybe Dyche has known about him for a long time and wants to bring him in. Maybe Dyche is comfortable with us spending £15m on Cornet. Maybe Dyche thinks it’s worth getting Cornet in for that money rather than spending that money on two other players.

[taio]

Dyche has a track record of working with we've got.

JBG plays on the right because he is the best we have for that position. The fact that he is left footed is an after thought. He does okay with his right. Brady played there when we had no other options and Lennon is right footed. Dwight wasn't very good when we played him on the right.

I take your point about Brady but not JBG.