Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Awayfromburnley]

I welcome any signing and if this Cornet is as good as the noise around him, then that is good.

Few of points from me

1 what is the evidence that he is any good?
2 if good why aren't others in for him?
3 surely Dwight will be going if we do get Cornet, why 2 left wingers.... yes I know he plays elsewhere but is predominantly left, as I see it.

[jojomk1]

At least there is always the fallback of re-signing Robbie Brady if we don't get Cornet.

Scott Arfield on the fringes of action at Rangers
Got to be worth a cheeky bid

[Newcastleclaret93]

I welcome any signing and if this Cornet is as good as the noise around him, then that is good.

Few of points from me

1 what is the evidence that he is any good?
2 if good why aren't others in for him?
3 surely Dwight will be going if we do get Cornet, why 2 left wingers.... yes I know he plays elsewhere but is predominantly left, as I see it.

For me it is similar to when Lingard was available. This is a champions league level player that is fortunately available. I believe there are other clubs after him like Hertha Berlin.

I could be wrong but I have a feeling Dwight will move central allowing him dictate play (similar to Defour) with cornet and Gudmundsson wide

[RVclaret]

I welcome any signing and if this Cornet is as good as the noise around him, then that is good.

Few of points from me

1 what is the evidence that he is any good?
2 if good why aren't others in for him?
3 surely Dwight will be going if we do get Cornet, why 2 left wingers.... yes I know he plays elsewhere but is predominantly left, as I see it.

1. He’s played over 200 games for one of France’s best domestic teams, scoring 40 goals and assisting 25. He has also been playing Champions League football including helping Lyon get to the semi finals recently. Our scouts have clearly been watching him and identified him as someone worth breaking our transfer record for. Though, as Dyche would say, all of the above guarantees nothing.

2. It’s rumoured there has been other interest in him.

3. He played most of his time for Lyon on the right hand side (this has been highlighted maybe 100 times on this thread alone).

[BenWickes]

I welcome any signing and if this Cornet is as good as the noise around him, then that is good.

Few of points from me

1 what is the evidence that he is any good?
2 if good why aren't others in for him?
3 surely Dwight will be going if we do get Cornet, why 2 left wingers.... yes I know he plays elsewhere but is predominantly left, as I see it.

1. Four goals against Man City in the Champions League. Ivory Coast international and a ringing endorsement from Lionel Messi no less that he is a good player.
2. De Bild says he regularly had bids in for him from Bundesliga clubs over the past few seasons. He's turned them all down. He's been playing as a wing back so maybe clubs aren't seeing the best of him. Leeds were reportedly in for him earlier in the year.
3. Technically we'd have three left wingers. JBG is also predominantly left footed but plays mostly on the right. Dyche likes inverted wingers. There's no evidence to suggest we will sell McNeil when we need at least two wingers for each side. As mentioned above, it also gives us flexibility to play McNeil or indeed Cornet in a floating role

[superdimitri]

I don't get it. Why do people still assume because he's left footed that he's a left winger?

We already have a left footed right winger in Gudmundsson. They are called inverted wingers. It's not a new concept. Wingers also swap sides, with no one position being singular, especially in attack.

This has been going on for years now. It's very rare a wide player can't play both sides.

[mikeS]

John Haworth played Eddie Mosscrop and Billy Nesbitt on the wings and regularly swapped them over.

[Ric_C]

Best case scenario here is that we have identified him as being severely undervalued due to him playing out of position for the last year.

[dougcollins]

I don't get it. Why do people still assume because he's left footed that he's a left winger?

We already have a left footed right winger in Gudmundsson. They are called inverted wingers. It's not a new concept. Wingers also swap sides, with no one position being singular, especially in attack.

This has been going on for years now. It's very rare a wide player can't play both sides.

My issue with the inverted winger is the inability to whip in a cross first time, the kind of cross that catches out the defender and gives a striker an extra split second.

What you get instead is check, turn, switch foot, cross, defender heads out.

[LawsCanalJump]

Signing Amad Diallo on loan would help Cornet settle, both being Ivorian

[NewClaret]

My issue with the inverted winger is the inability to whip in a cross first time, the kind of cross that catches out the defender and gives a striker an extra split second.

What you get instead is check, turn, switch foot, cross, defender heads out.

Completely agree with this. I find that so frustrating. Hardly any wonder we’re always offside when we never get any early balls in to the box.

[wilks_bfc]

FotMob has his “preferred foot” as right and from his highlights he appears to be able to use his right just as well as his left

[NewClaret]

FotMob has his “preferred foot” as right and from his highlights he appears to be able to use his right just as well as his left

Pretty sure he’s left footed but also uses his right in the videos, so hopefully we have the best of both worlds.

[superdimitri]

My issue with the inverted winger is the inability to whip in a cross first time, the kind of cross that catches out the defender and gives a striker an extra split second.

What you get instead is check, turn, switch foot, cross, defender heads out.

I think it depends how predictable the play is. If you're sometimes crossing, sometimes cutting in to make a pass or shot or creating space for the full back to run into it can work very well.

If however it's entirely one dimensional and you're cutting in to cross every time it's too predicable. In a way an in-swinger can be harder to defend but as with everything if you try the same thing over and over it does become easier to defend.

If we sign Cornet I can tell you now he's the kind of player who will run inside and shoot. He has pace and a shot on him. He won't be one dimensional like Gudmundsson sometimes is and he will also be able to play on the other side if needed too.

Oh and it's no coincidence we're in for him given his work rate is top notch. You need that in our team in defence.

[BigChaCha]

I am not sure why some people seem to act like inverted wingers are a new thing and out of the ordinary!

They have been a thing for a long while, with many other managers in the Premier League preferring that option including Jose Mourinho, who has won more than most... Even Pep Guardiola regularly opts for inverted wingers... Inverted wingers are slowly becoming the norm in modern football, if not dominating over more traditional orthodox wingers.

Inverted wingers work better with an attacking full-back, creating unbalance in the opposition defence. It works... That's why there has been a tactical shift from managers to use them more over the last decade.

[PremierLeagueClass]

He seems quite useful with both feet from the clips I’ve seen.

[warksclaret]

I think it depends how predictable the play is. If you're sometimes crossing, sometimes cutting in to make a pass or shot or creating space for the full back to run into it can work very well.

If however it's entirely one dimensional and you're cutting in to cross every time it's too predicable. In a way an in-swinger can be harder to defend but as with everything if you try the same thing over and over it does become easier to defend.

If we sign Cornet I can tell you now he's the kind of player who will run inside and shoot. He has pace and a shot on him. He won't be one dimensional like Gudmundsson sometimes is and he will also be able to play on the other side if needed too.

Oh and it's no coincidence we're in for him given his work rate is top notch. You need that in our team in defence.

Inverted wingers can be deadly-Mahrez, Salah, Ashley Young-all brilliant from playing wide

[RVclaret]

Inverted wingers can be deadly-Mahrez, Salah, Ashley Young-all brilliant from playing wide

Robben was quite incredible at it. You knew where he wanted to go and do yet no one could seem to stop him.

[CharlieinNewMexico]

Robben was quite incredible at it. You knew where he wanted to go and do yet no one could seem to stop him.

And almost literally could only kick with one foot!

[Iloveyoubrady]

Best case scenario here is that we have identified him as being severely undervalued due to him playing out of position for the last year.

This.

Have seen a Lyon fan actually say this which is promising. Blaming their manager for “destroying his market value.”

Let’s hope it gets done...

[minnieclaret]

Seen a post on twatter that SD has said Cornet would sign last night or today. Can’t find verification anywhere. Can anybody help?

[colne-claret]

Seen a post on twatter that SD has said Cornet would sign last night or today. Can’t find verification anywhere. Can anybody help?

That was actually a quote about Dale Stephens. It was somebody on the wind up.

[Iloveyoubrady]

That was actually a quote about Dale Stephens. It was somebody on the wind up.

That was quite funny but a proper dick.

[TsarBomba]

Signing Amad Diallo on loan would help Cornet settle, both being Ivorian

That’s a great shout.

I would love to see Cornet and Diallo renting a terrace up Harle Skye a la Ian Wright and Mitchell Thomas.

[warksclaret]

Has there ever been greater anticipation about a signing than this one-hopefully things start to fall into place soon

[burnley007]

It would be pretty poor form if this other mystery signing is Lennon or Dyche. That would be far too much like the message board version of clickbait for my liking.

oops.

[burnley007]

That’s a great shout.

I would love to see Cornet and Diallo renting a terrace up Harle Skye a la Ian Wright and Mitchell Thomas.

Did they really do that?

[RVclaret]

Athletic report today suggesting we had tentative talks with United about Diallo but Dyche wants his wingers to be able to track back and win headers from set pieces…

[Pearcey]

Imagine hating one of the best managers in the clubs history.

[randomclaret2]

Athletic report today suggesting we had tentative talks with United about Diallo but Dyche wants his wingers to be able to track back and win headers from set pieces…

Presumably why we've signed Aaron Lennon, for his heading ability...

[MACCA]

Imagine hating one of the best managers in the clubs history.

I think most have got over the Coyle thing now to be fair.

[Ric_C]

Chong from Utd would've been a good shout. He's absolutely tearing it up for Brum

[dsr]

My issue with the inverted winger is the inability to whip in a cross first time, the kind of cross that catches out the defender and gives a striker an extra split second.

What you get instead is check, turn, switch foot, cross, defender heads out.

We need the extra time so the forwards can catch up.

[Andreshotboots]

Chong from Utd would've been a good shout. He's absolutely tearing it up for Brum

Make a good song too… “ Shanks said no, I don’t think so but I’ve heard of the Chong side , Burnley”!!!!

[Gunfury]

I keep logging in to see if it is a done deal yet and all I get is endless, totally unfunny, puns.
Shut the **** up you boring ********!!

Would you prefer it if this thread was dead Jim

[BackoffDave]

Did they really do that?

No, Ian Wright stayed with Mitchell Thomas at his house at Lanehead (think Clockhouse, just before Kibble)

[BackoffDave]

1. Four goals against Man City in the Champions League. Ivory Coast international and a ringing endorsement from Lionel Messi no less that he is a good player.
2. De Bild says he regularly had bids in for him from Bundesliga clubs over the past few seasons. He's turned them all down. He's been playing as a wing back so maybe clubs aren't seeing the best of him. Leeds were reportedly in for him earlier in the year.
3. Technically we'd have three left wingers. JBG is also predominantly left footed but plays mostly on the right. Dyche likes inverted wingers. There's no evidence to suggest we will sell McNeil when we need at least two wingers for each side. As mentioned above, it also gives us flexibility to play McNeil or indeed Cornet in a floating role

1 - anyone can have a decent game or two
2 - Leeds wanted a left back and valued him less than the asking price, Cornet isnt predominantly a left back so they went for Firpo
3 - McNeil wil lgo to Everton when they lose Richarlison to PSG and Moise Kean to Juventus (dependign on Mbappe and Ronaldo moves)

[CrosspoolClarets]

Just made the mistake of clicking on a Burnley Express headline that said “Burnley deal on verge of completion” and the article is all about Dwight McNeil, nothing else.

Nothing but clickbait that rag now. it has gone so downhill over the years. Feel so sorry for the reporters who work for it.

[snapcrackleandpop]

He seems quite useful with both feet from the clips I’ve seen.

I wish he was as useful with a pen

[MACCA]

No, Ian Wright stayed with Mitchell Thomas at his house at Lanehead (think Clockhouse, just before Kibble)

I always thought it was Talbot Drive up Harke Skye , but tomato tomato

[tiger76]

I wish he was as useful with a pen

Nah! we're fine with pens we rarely miss them.

[dsr]

Nah! we're fine with pens we rarely miss them.

Possibly because we rarely get them.

[tiger76]

Possibly because we rarely get them.

We might get a few more if we sign this lad, he sounds like someone who's direct and will try and take defenders on, and when you do that you've always got a chance of them mistiming tackles.

[HahaYeah]

I keep logging in to see if it is a done deal yet and all I get is endless, totally unfunny, puns.
Shut the **** up you boring ********!!

You've Spock too soon there.

[Wokingclaret]

The use of colorful metaphors Captain

[scamander]

Just a couple of points about inverted wingers.

1. It's not always about the cross. Cutting in on your preferred foot opens up several attacking options, e.g. through ball, one-two etc. It also causes the opposition defence to move out of position. It tests how organised they are.

2. It creates space for the overlapping fullback. The defending full back now cannot track the winger inside. It could open space for him.

I think it's not just about how a cross is made.

[kazza]

They can also shoot on their stronger foot.

[Claret_tinted]

As mentioned before. If PSG go shopping at Everton, they’ll be cash rich and looking for a replacement.

Dwight there, players in return.

[DCWat]

Just a couple of points about inverted wingers.

1. It's not always about the cross. Cutting in on your preferred foot opens up several attacking options, e.g. through ball, one-two etc. It also causes the opposition defence to move out of position. It tests how organised they are.

2. It creates space for the overlapping fullback. The defending full back now cannot track the winger inside. It could open space for him.

I think it's not just about how a cross is made.

You’re right with what you’re saying.

For all those great points, and although it’s much less a part of the modern game, there’s nothing better than a winger taking on and beating the opposition to whip a cross in from the line. For me, it’s sadly lacking in the modern game.

[scamander]

You’re right with what you’re saying.

For all those great points, and although it’s much less a part of the modern game, there’s nothing better than a winger taking on and beating the opposition to whip a cross in from the line. For me, it’s sadly lacking in the modern game.

I remember that there was a study several years back which looked at crosses and decided that the traditional type of cross resulted in few goals. But I agree, a winger beating his man on the outside and getting a cross in is a great sight and McNeil is very good at this.