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Post by Zom Zom » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:24 pm

Well, when Alan Pace arrived and spoke about building the club up, I admit I assumed he was more focused on bringing in external revenue from streams perhaps not previously capitalised by the previous regime. In fact I posted a few times on here championing that.

To see our club being far more aggressive and active in the transfer market, regardless of the possible Barkley arrival, nobody can claim that he hasn’t put his money where his mouth is. He has certainly restored my faith that we once more have someone at the helm with the same passion and drive as Barry Kilby. And that is not a dig at the previous chair.

So much to be positive about. Brilliant.

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:25 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Word of caution on Barkley. The cognescenti on here were creaming themselves as I recall over the signing of Drinkwater, no dissenting voices were even remotely tolerated. Does this one have a little echo of the Drinkwater deal ? Certainly feels like a player who's career as, at best, stalled somewhat ? Not sure he pulled up any trees at Villa.
He was excellent for Villa and then got injured, part of the reason they faded and fell down the table.

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Post by claret2018 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:25 pm

I think the Villa/Chelsea/England links also make it easy to compare Drinkwater and Barkley

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Post by Bigvince » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:25 pm

At least when Barkley played for Villa last season he looked like a footballer, when drinkwater played for us, he looked like he’d never seen a football in his life!

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Post by jrgbfc » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:26 pm

Only place I could realistically see Barkley playing would be just behind Wood in a 4-5-1?

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Post by Conroy92 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:27 pm

I'd be interested to know if this was one of CT's articles? If discussions have been happening for a few days it's unlikely we'd be wasting our time with it now if we didn't think we could pull it off.

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:27 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:26 pm
Only place I could realistically see Barkley playing would be just behind Wood in a 4-5-1?
4411, same as he did with Hendrick when we finished 7th.

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Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:28 pm

I think Barkley could be risky as he dosen't strike me as a grafter like Barton, if he gets that sorted could be very good though

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Post by claretburns » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:28 pm

Pope

Roberts
Tarkowski
Mee
Taylor

McNeil
Westwood
Brownhill
Cornet

Barkley

Wood

Not a bad side that.
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Post by burnley007 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:29 pm

RB still only 27

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Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:29 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:26 pm
Only place I could realistically see Barkley playing would be just behind Wood in a 4-5-1?
Think thats the only place it would work, don't think he would work in a two

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:29 pm

I'm friends with a couple of Villa fans. They say he started off really well for them but was then out for ages with an innocuous injury. After that he wasn't interested.

Seems like he has a few motivational issues. On the other hand though if he had been firing on all cylinders at Villa then he'd be out of our reach

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Post by burnley007 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:30 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:26 pm
Only place I could realistically see Barkley playing would be just behind Wood in a 4-5-1?
It would seem that is the direction SD wants to go this season.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:30 pm

its relying on Chelsea letting him go, with them paying 75% of his wages

You never know, but I'd say this is probably going to be a struggle

Nothing credible to suggest that wage deferral has been accepted

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Post by burnley007 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:30 pm

Barkley or Christie?

Barkley all day long for me...🤞

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:31 pm

whiffa wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:16 pm
The only thing that matters is if Dyche can get his attitude in check. If he thinks he can, I fully back him to do so.
Just think Joey Barton.
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Post by CFS » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:32 pm

Pope

Roberts
Tarks
Mee
Taylor

Westwood
Cork
Barkley

Dwight
Wood
Cornet

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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:32 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:12 pm
if we end the window with Barkley joining us too then where do we put the statue of Alan Pace ? ;)
We can't afford one as we'll be in the Championship as our side won't have gelled 😃😃

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Post by claretburns » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:32 pm

Newcastle signed Santiago Munoz, he'll be at Madrid in a couple of years :lol:

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Post by Top Claret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:34 pm

Not to sure on Barkley who appears to be lazy and lack the charecter to fit into our set up, on the other hand if Dyche can get a tune out of him and get him intetested he could be a fabulous signing

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Post by BenWickes » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:34 pm

Of all the 'number 10s' mentioned above. Barkley was and is the stand out player for our system imo. He may not have the flair, pace and technical skills of some of the others but he is robust, strong, has an ability to pick a pass and something we have been crying out for, apart from that bit of something different in midfield. Put his foot on the ball, slow the game down if needed and give a bit of composure.
I think he's a player who likes to be loved and needs an arm around him on occasion but can see Clarets fans loving him and who better at man management than Dyche.
As above. He'd fit nicely into a 4-4-1-1.

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Post by CFS » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:34 pm

If we can get the Barkley who played behind Lukaku I'd take it.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:36 pm

Has Christie actually signed for Bournemouth yet ?

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Post by Belgianclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:36 pm

I'd be happy with AMN for centre midfield

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Post by CnBtruntru » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:37 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:36 pm
Has Christie actually signed for Bournemouth yet ?
Who cares :o :D

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Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:39 pm

The massive plus for us regarding Barkley is that he'll want to try and push to get back into England reckoning for next winters world cup.

It would be a real coup for all concerned imo

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Post by dsr » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:40 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:31 pm
Just think Joey Barton.
Barton was a different sort of character question. There has never been any doubt that once Barton is on a football field, he will bust every gut he has got to win. His problems were off the field.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:41 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:31 pm
Just think Joey Barton.
Barkley is another 5 levels above Barton with far less problems.

The problem might come if it's Pace signing these players and not Dyche.
He might be reluctant to play them like the other Garlick signings.

Hopefully it all clicks into place and we we will have the best team of my lifetime supporting us.

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Post by Culmclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:46 pm

….well it’s a bit more exciting than usual….

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:46 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:58 pm
Rumours on twitter Barkley's accepted
That's a done deal then :D :D :D

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:46 pm

People mention Drinkwater but to be fair, he came here needing game time and wasn't given a sniff. I still think if Drinkwater was given a solid 10+ game run he'd have been good for us.

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Post by Spijed » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:47 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:30 pm
its relying on Chelsea letting him go, with them paying 75% of his wages

You never know, but I'd say this is probably going to be a struggle

Nothing credible to suggest that wage deferral has been accepted
Surely any reduction in wages is a plus for Chelsea.

What's the benefit of them keeping him as it's obvious he's never going to play for them again?

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Post by RalphCoatesComb » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:48 pm

I hope we have costed these wages.

I am not for hocking the family silver today, hoping for strawberries and cream tomorrow.

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Post by Milltown1882 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:48 pm

Do we only have one spot left in the squad for this season? Have it at 24 atm over 21 as far as I can see.

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Post by blake's wand » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:50 pm

Barkley would be an incredible signing if Dyche can get him motivated. Once of the most talented English midfielders when he broke through who on his day has absolutely everything in his locker, but has struggled for consistency since leaving Everton.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:50 pm

Belgianclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:36 pm
I'd be happy with AMN for centre midfield
AMN has been quoted multiple times that he wants to play right back as that's how he got his England call up.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:50 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:25 pm
At least when Barkley played for Villa last season he looked like a footballer, when drinkwater played for us, he looked like he’d never seen a football in his life!
Then he went to Villa and watched the game pass him by, against City I think it was.

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Post by Les Lawrence » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:51 pm

Think Drinkwater was on the sniff,and got battered in a nightclub,he didn't earn a chance.Was **** at Villa too
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:51 pm

AMN defo not coming

Its whether or not we can get Barkley over the line, which as they have no use for him, might be possible

But does he want to come?

That might be the issue

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Post by Papabendi » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:52 pm

defo has legs...

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Post by claretandy » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:53 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:30 pm
its relying on Chelsea letting him go, with them paying 75% of his wages

You never know, but I'd say this is probably going to be a struggle

Nothing credible to suggest that wage deferral has been accepted
Drinkwater is on more than Barkley.

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Post by Zom Zom » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:54 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:48 pm
I hope we have costed these wages.

I am not for hocking the family silver today, hoping for strawberries and cream tomorrow.
Afternoon, Mr Ternent :D

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:55 pm

claretandy wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:53 pm
Drinkwater is on more than Barkley.
Yeah, seen that we paid 50k of his 110k wages when he was here

Thats not 25% though

Guess it depends on how far we are willing to go

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Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:56 pm

Drinkwater never even looked like a professional footballer when he joined us. It became apparent fairly early on that he was finished at an sort of elite level and he was absolutely comical for Aston Villa.

Barkley is miles better.
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Post by tiger76 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:56 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:46 pm
People mention Drinkwater but to be fair, he came here needing game time and wasn't given a sniff. I still think if Drinkwater was given a solid 10+ game run he'd have been good for us.
Perhaps he would have been, but he hardly helped his cause with a lackadaisical attitude, plus the nightclub incident didn't improve his reputation.

Vast difference between him and Barkley however, RB has been playing fairly regularly for Villa in recent months, and although his form dipped in the latter half of the season he showed plenty in his first few months there to suggest he'd improve our starting XI, and he'll certainly add a goal threat from midfield, which we've been sadly lacking in the last couple of seasons.

Also Ross Barkley is still hungry to prove himself, not least to a certain Gareth Southgate, and as pointed out he's still only 27, so if he wants to play regular PL footy TM could well be the right move for him at this time.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:46 pm
People mention Drinkwater but to be fair, he came here needing game time and wasn't given a sniff. I still think if Drinkwater was given a solid 10+ game run he'd have been good for us.
He defo had a sniff. .
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Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:03 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:55 pm
Yeah, seen that we paid 50k of his 110k wages when he was here

Thats not 25% though

Guess it depends on how far we are willing to go
The most advantageous point being for us is that nobody else at this stage seem interested in him, unusually no other competition is in for him not apparent anyhow, everybody else have pretty much wrapped up things already apart from bits & bobs getting concluded.

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Post by claretandy » Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:05 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:55 pm
Yeah, seen that we paid 50k of his 110k wages when he was here

Thats not 25% though

Guess it depends on how far we are willing to go
Where's the 25% figure come from ?

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:07 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:56 pm
Perhaps he would have been, but he hardly helped his cause with a lackadaisical attitude, plus the nightclub incident didn't improve his reputation.

Vast difference between him and Barkley however, RB has been playing fairly regularly for Villa in recent months, and although his form dipped in the latter half of the season he showed plenty in his first few months there to suggest he'd improve our starting XI, and he'll certainly add a goal threat from midfield, which we've been sadly lacking in the last couple of seasons.

Also Ross Barkley is still hungry to prove himself, not least to a certain Gareth Southgate, and as pointed out he's still only 27, so if he wants to play regular PL footy TM could well be the right move for him at this time.
I don't disagree with anything you said, Drinkwater definitely didn't help himself and Barkley is completely different and overall a far better fit. I'd be amazed with Barkley, he'd be brilliant behind Wood imo.
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