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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by AfloatinClaret » Wed May 19, 2021 10:04 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:02 pm
Oxtail chamberpot seals it!
Good performance overall.
To be fair that was some goal.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by northeastclaret » Wed May 19, 2021 10:05 pm

Says it all Burnley 4 shots on target Liverpool 3. Ffs

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by kentonclaret » Wed May 19, 2021 10:05 pm

The 4 lowest scoring teams in the PL currently fill the bottom 4 places.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by bf2k » Wed May 19, 2021 10:05 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:03 pm
Lots of good play. Totally pants at the back. As much as I like this more adventurous attacking play, I really worry about how it exposes us defensively.
Problem with that theory is I’m sure we’ve picked up more points per game playing like that. A few tweaks to personnel and that some will work well.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by superdimitri » Wed May 19, 2021 10:07 pm

We've done well yes but seriously. Liverpool on their day could have been in double figures today. The difference today was just keeping them out for a bit longer than usual.

In fairness we did play some good football but our final ball was awful.

One easy game left and hopefully a good summer of transfers to look forward to.

Commentator said tonight is all about Liverpool. I disagree, for me it was all about having fans back and it was great to see so much support for our team. With some good recruitment we'll be a force next season. Really good feeling surrounding the club.

Onwards and upwards.
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed May 19, 2021 10:08 pm

Lets pray there's another 3 dogshg*t teams in the league next year
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by buzzclarets79 » Wed May 19, 2021 10:09 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:04 pm
Why do you say that when we've done really well away from home?

Won three out of last four I think.
Last two:- conceded 7. Scored 0.

Not saying they’ve given up but I do think we’ve dropped in effort after getting safe.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by IanMcL » Wed May 19, 2021 10:09 pm

Great performance. Totally naff keeper.

Well played Burnley.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by NewClaret » Wed May 19, 2021 10:09 pm

bf2k wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:05 pm
Problem with that theory is I’m sure we’ve picked up more points per game playing like that. A few tweaks to personnel and that some will work well.
I’m not sure we have. Southampton, United, Newcastle, Liverpool, etc. Can only really think of Wolves we played like this and won.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by AfloatinClaret » Wed May 19, 2021 10:10 pm

Much better than the Leeds game; I don't think I've ever seen a three goal defeat that I've enjoyed as much, insofar as i didn't think we were beaten/out of it until the moment when Oxlade Chamberlain scored their third, an excellent shift from all the lads, even Gudmundsson grafted in the second half.
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by bfcjg » Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm

I thought we played really well against a team on a roll at the moment going for the champions league.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by boatshed bill » Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm

buzzclarets79 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:09 pm
Last two:- conceded 7. Scored 0.

Not saying they’ve given up but I do think we’ve dropped in effort after getting safe.
Well, when the entire club, staff, fans are apparently happy with 17th that's as good as you will get.
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm

The story of our season in many ways. I thought we played really well tonight, but we've saved those performances for the top 6/8 teams when we'll always struggle to turn good shows into wins and then we haven't really shown up frequently enough against the also rans. That really wasn't a comfortable win for Liverpool and with more clinical finishing from us it would have been even tougher!
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by FCBurnley » Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm

Fairly predictable. Didn’t think Liverpool were much. Phillips their best player says it all. We just look exhausted

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by DCWat » Wed May 19, 2021 10:12 pm

I’ve been critical of Brownhill but i think we saw a bit more from him tonight.

Not a poor performance, despite the score line.

On to the last game and hopefully a final three points of the season followed by some good recruitment in the summer.
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Spijed » Wed May 19, 2021 10:12 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm
The story of our season in many ways. I thought we played really well tonight, but we've saved those performances for the top 6/8 teams when we'll always struggle to turn good shows into wins and then we haven't really shown up frequently enough against the also rans. That really wasn't a comfortable win for Liverpool and with more clinical finishing from us it would have been even tougher!
Quite a positive appraisal ;)

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by bf2k » Wed May 19, 2021 10:13 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:09 pm
I’m not sure we have. Southampton, United, Newcastle, Liverpool, etc. Can only really think of Wolves we played like this and won.
Well if not like I said were one Or two players of being a better side then earlier in the season. A right winger and a player like Defour.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by kentonclaret » Wed May 19, 2021 10:13 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:09 pm
Great performance. Totally naff keeper.

Well played Burnley.
If Pope does move on that's another position that needs filling unlike in previous seasons.
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by ewanrob » Wed May 19, 2021 10:14 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm
Fairly predictable. Didn’t think Liverpool were much. Phillips their best player says it all. We just look exhausted
Exhausted exactly, nearly done.

Only tuned in late on, didn't hear much singing....plenty of booing though. All sounded a bit flat, but as I say only caught last 10 mins.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed May 19, 2021 10:14 pm

Said it before and I’ll say it again - if we’re looking to reduce the wage bill substantially this summer, then we’ll be in big trouble next season.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed May 19, 2021 10:15 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm
The story of our season in many ways. I thought we played really well tonight, but we've saved those performances for the top 6/8 teams when we'll always struggle to turn good shows into wins and then we haven't really shown up frequently enough against the also rans. That really wasn't a comfortable win for Liverpool and with more clinical finishing from us it would have been even tougher!
I honestly just didn’t see the same performance.

Liverpool on another day should have won that 6-0 they missed some incredible chances no more so than Mane in the first minute.

We looked ok and tried hard but in reality Liverpool didn’t have to get out of second gear.

Some positives to work on, but very concerning the lack of quality in the final third. Main concern being what the hell would happen if Wood got injured next season.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed May 19, 2021 10:15 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:12 pm
Quite a positive appraisal ;)
I enjoyed the game Spijed and even at 2-0 I thought we were a tad unfortunate and were still in it. I think it's fair to say (as I did) that the inconsistency which had plagued us all season was evident again, because that level of performance every week (even most weeks) would put us in the top 10/11.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by tiger76 » Wed May 19, 2021 10:16 pm

"We love you Burnley, we do", the Turf Moor faithfull sing as the players head off.

Glad to see the lads getting a deserved pat on the back for their efforts throughout the season, tonight was disappointing, but not really unexpected, and truth be told our work was done with the victory at Fulham which sealed another year at this level.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by buzzclarets79 » Wed May 19, 2021 10:17 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm
Well, when the entire club, staff, fans are apparently happy with 17th that's as good as you will get.
Next season we won’t be so lucky. This club is sleepwalking into relegation.
Everyone expects a rebuilding job in the summer, like they’ve not learnt from the previous 4/5 years. It’ll be one or two ageing players that just offer hard work and running and nothing remotely technical or creative or pace.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by taio » Wed May 19, 2021 10:18 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:15 pm
I honestly just didn’t see the same performance.

Liverpool on another day should have won that 6-0 they missed some incredible chances no more so than Mane in the first minute.

We looked ok and tried hard but in reality Liverpool didn’t have to get out of second gear.

Some positives to work on, but very concerning the lack of quality in the final third. Main concern being what the hell would happen if Wood got injured next season.
I read some nonsense one here but laughable saying that they should've won 6-0.
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by TsarBomba » Wed May 19, 2021 10:18 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:14 pm
Said it before and I’ll say it again - if we’re looking to reduce the wage bill substantially this summer, then we’ll be in big trouble next season.
There’s some big wages that could be moved on without there being much detriment to the first 11.

Whether we can shift those wages though is another matter entirely.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed May 19, 2021 10:20 pm

taio wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:18 pm
I read some nonsense one here but laughable saying that they should've won 6-0.
Could quite easily have finished that score with the chances they missed. If it wasn’t for some heroic defending from Tarks and Mee with some last ditch tackles could have been more.

Mane, salah, firminho all missed sitters

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by bf2k » Wed May 19, 2021 10:21 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:18 pm
There’s some big wages that could be moved on without there being much detriment to the first 11.

Whether we can shift those wages though is another matter entirely.
Problem is those “high” wages need replacing with players on equal or higher wages. They are premier league wages (lower end premier league wages apparently).

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by taio » Wed May 19, 2021 10:23 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:20 pm
Could quite easily have finished that score with the chances they missed. If it wasn’t for some heroic defending from Tarks and Mee with some last ditch tackles could have been more.

Mane, salah, firminho all missed sitters
What about the chances where we came close - do they not count in your irrelevant forecast? As I say, total nonsense.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by ClaretMov » Wed May 19, 2021 10:23 pm

Scoreline flattered Liverpool
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by tiger76 » Wed May 19, 2021 10:25 pm

ewanrob wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:14 pm
Exhausted exactly, nearly done.

Only tuned in late on, didn't hear much singing....plenty of booing though. All sounded a bit flat, but as I say only caught last 10 mins.
Why the hell were the fans booing, we were playing Liverpool FGS, just maybe if the crowd got behind the lads instead of constantly being on their backs they might respond in kind, and just what did those who attended expect tonight, if Liverpool play anything like their best then 9 times out of 10 they'll beat us, and that's what happened this evening, we certainly weren't dreadful as some are implying, and if Wood or Tarks had scored then it could have been a different outcome.

The main thing this season with all the turmoil is we've survived and will still be a PL team come August, and for that feat alone SD and the squad should be lauded.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed May 19, 2021 10:25 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:15 pm
I honestly just didn’t see the same performance.

Liverpool on another day should have won that 6-0 they missed some incredible chances no more so than Mane in the first minute.

We looked ok and tried hard but in reality Liverpool didn’t have to get out of second gear.

Some positives to work on, but very concerning the lack of quality in the final third. Main concern being what the hell would happen if Wood got injured next season.
Even I disagree with this negative summary (and that takes some bloody doing). I agree re a lack of quality re taking the chances we got, but Dyche opted for one up front and the extra man in midfield which tbh I agreed with. The result of that however is always going to be a dirth of scoring chances, but we did have them and if they are at a premium you really have to finish them, granted. Of course Liverpool had a shed load of spurned chances, but whenever we turn over one of the big boys they always make chances. It's just that they don't take them. E.G. City when Boyd won it for us and when Guddy scored for a 1-1 at home against them. Liverpool and Arsenal away this season. Liverpool at home when we won 2-0 with 19% possession. Utd away last season. There's loads of examples. It's only to be expected they'll be the better team and have a load of opportunities, but on our day we come out on top and today we really weren't that far away.
P.S. Totally agree we need serious incoming in terms of quality btw!

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed May 19, 2021 10:26 pm

taio wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:23 pm
What about the chances where we came close - do they not count in your irrelevant forecast? As I say, total nonsense.
What the one wood chance where he missed the target?

You can’t seriously be suggesting we deserved anything out of that game?

There were some positives from the game but Liverpool brushed us aside with ease.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by IanMcL » Wed May 19, 2021 10:27 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:26 pm
What the one wood chance where he missed the target?

You can’t seriously be suggesting we deserved anything out of that game?

There were some positives from the game but Liverpool brushed us aside with ease.
You having been watching WBA!!!

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed May 19, 2021 10:29 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:25 pm
Even I disagree with this negative summary (and that takes some bloody doing). I agree re a lack of quality re taking the chances we got, but Dyche opted for one up front and the extra man in midfield which tbh I agreed with. The result of that however is always going to be a dirth of scoring chances, but we did have them and if they are at a premium you really have to finish them, granted. Of course Liverpool had a shed load of spurned chances, but whenever we turn over one of the big boys they always make chances. It's just that they don't take them. E.G. City when Boyd won it for us and when Guddy scored for a 1-1 at home against them. Liverpool and Arsenal away this season. Liverpool at home when we won 2-0 with 19% possession. Utd away last season. There's loads of examples. It's only to be expected they'll be the better team and have a load of opportunities, but on our day we come out on top and today we really weren't that far away.
P.S. Totally agree we need serious incoming in terms of quality btw!
Very true,

I just didn’t see that side of the game today where our defence is rigid and we can keep teams at bay. To be honest I have seen that only on rare occasions this season. I used to think when we went a goal up no one was scoring against us.

I think Liverpool could have scored a shed load tonight but we were quite fortunate they didn’t have there shooting boots on.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by taio » Wed May 19, 2021 10:29 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:26 pm
What the one wood chance where he missed the target?

You can’t seriously be suggesting we deserved anything out of that game?

There were some positives from it but we are brushed aside without Liverpool even getting sweat on.
Wood, we had one cleared off the line and more shots on target than them.

No, I'm not suggesting we should have got anything from the game...I'm saying it's utter ******** you saying they should've won 6-0.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed May 19, 2021 10:30 pm

taio wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:29 pm
Wood, we had one cleared off the line and more shots on target than them.

No, I'm not suggesting we should have got anything from the game...I'm saying it's utter ******** you saying they should've won 6-0.
Fair enough, that’s your opinion. Mine is that they won very comfortably and should have scored more.

No need to get aggressive.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Stan Tastic » Wed May 19, 2021 10:31 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm
Fairly predictable. Didn’t think Liverpool were much. Phillips their best player says it all. We just look exhausted
Exhausted? What absolute nonsense. There was no drop-off at all as the game progressed. Even at 3-0 we were still pushing for a goal.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed May 19, 2021 10:32 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm
Well, when the entire club, staff, fans are apparently happy with 17th that's as good as you will get.
Well it fu**ing beats pi**ing about at York and Grimsby in the 4th division and losing!!

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by boatshed bill » Wed May 19, 2021 10:33 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:32 pm
Well it fu**ing beats pi**ing about at York and Grimsby in the 4th division and losing!!
Yes, it certainly does.
But isn't there something more to aim at?

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Elizabeth » Wed May 19, 2021 10:34 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:15 pm
I honestly just didn’t see the same performance.

Liverpool on another day should have won that 6-0 they missed some incredible chances no more so than Mane in the first minute.

We looked ok and tried hard but in reality Liverpool didn’t have to get out of second gear.

Some positives to work on, but very concerning the lack of quality in the final third. Main concern being what the hell would happen if Wood got injured next season.
If Wood was out for the season we’d get relegated

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by ClaretMov » Wed May 19, 2021 10:35 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:15 pm
I honestly just didn’t see the same performance.

Liverpool on another day should have won that 6-0 they missed some incredible chances no more so than Mane in the first minute.

We looked ok and tried hard but in reality Liverpool didn’t have to get out of second gear.

Some positives to work on, but very concerning the lack of quality in the final third. Main concern being what the hell would happen if Wood got injured next season.
You can't win 6-0 with only 3 shots on target, what are you taking about.
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed May 19, 2021 10:36 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:34 pm
If Wood was out for the season we’d get relegated
Agreed. When his form was shocking at the start of the season I was really against Wood but my god he has proven me wrong.

He has scored 33% of all of our goals this season. If he gets injured we would be in serious trouble.
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Jimmymaccer » Wed May 19, 2021 10:37 pm

Blimey...........tho no surprise some comments in here...

A dreadful start to the season
No investment whatsoever
Total uncertainty against a backdrop of a takeover
Pandemic
Injuries
Away wins at Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton, Fulham
Still in The Prem

Ffs we’ll be ok next season..........enjoy the summer, hopefully the pandemic will be all but over, some strengthening of the team....

And all back at The Turf.....

Night all.
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed May 19, 2021 10:42 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:33 pm
Yes, it certainly does.
But isn't there something more to aim at?
Course there is Bill and I do get your point. It's just that this season more than any with the lack of summer signings, a plethora of injuries which we've not had before, especially early season to Mee and Tarks, a takeover and a huge flirtation with relegation, I'm simply happy to get over the bloody line and I'll take owt above 18th tbh. Now we'll see what the owners are really about, because like pretty much everybody else I know it won't be good enough next season to lose virtually all your home games with a crowd back watching and to be hovering in and around the bottom 3 praying there are 3 crapper teams below us. We definitely need to strengthen big style as things have seriously moved on (look at Leeds for example!) and we need to move accordingly or this time next year we'll be the next Sheffield Utd for sure.
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu May 20, 2021 1:34 am

superdimitri wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:07 pm
We've done well yes but seriously. Liverpool on their day could have been in double figures today. The difference today was just keeping them out for a bit longer than usual.

In fairness we did play some good football but our final ball was awful.

One easy game left and hopefully a good summer of transfers to look forward to.

Commentator said tonight is all about Liverpool. I disagree, for me it was all about having fans back and it was great to see so much support for our team. With some good recruitment we'll be a force next season. Really good feeling surrounding the club.

Onwards and upwards.
On the other hand, if the ball had fallen more kindly we could have had two or three!
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by superdimitri » Thu May 20, 2021 1:36 am

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 1:34 am
On the other hand, if the ball had fallen more kindly we could have had two or three!
Certainly could have. In fact, if we could sort out or final delivery we could have easily trounced them.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu May 20, 2021 1:44 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm
Well, when the entire club, staff, fans are apparently happy with 17th that's as good as you will get.
You do realize that staying up is a massive achievement right?

We're the smallest club, on the smallest budget, with the fewest & cheapest players.
Enjoy it while you can.
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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 20, 2021 1:46 am

it was a bang average Liverpool performance, we huffed and puffed, played some really nice stuff at times but Dyche has it 100% spot on - we lacked decisiveness and quality, he'll want to address that in the summer so let's hope there are funds to enable him to do so. There were some good performances tonight and some not so good, the lads need help.

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Re: mighty Clarets v Liverpool

Post by Zlatan » Thu May 20, 2021 7:08 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 9:46 pm
Oh god, I thought with you going on the game we wouldnt need to suffer with your twaddle. Put your phone down and enjoy yourself
There was a pause in the game, however I don’t have to explain to you how I watch and enjoy football.

I learnt the other day there is a word describing people like you and your behaviour online - Sealioning

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