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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by tim_noone » Fri May 21, 2021 10:07 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 7:43 am
Point still stands, why this summer ? You think there is a time delay before footballers talk to each other about money ?

As for me being a certain type, this won't shock you but you are wrong again. I have never been for a job interview in my life, working to make someone money for a job I am doing was never for me. I also don't worry about what anybody else earns, I have no interest if 1 man earns 20k a year and the other one earns 200k, so long I make what I want to make my life is fine.
A good attitude you have on money imo.firstly I've 'always been happy to put food on the Table. Anything else is a Bonus.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by claretandy » Fri May 21, 2021 10:45 am

Spijed wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 4:10 pm
In terms of a move, what the likely options for Nick Pope?

Outside of the so called big six clubs, Everton, Leicester and Aston Villa are unlikely to want to replace their keepers.

Are West Ham happy with theirs?

Other than those teams it would be very much a sideways move for him.
He's been heavily linked with Spurs, West Ham will be looking for a new keeper as well.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by KRBFC » Fri May 21, 2021 12:44 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 10:55 pm
He’s been injured for parts of this season - not out of favour.
He was both

''But for the visit of Wolves back in February, Dubravka, who’d spent almost two months on the bench, was recalled to the side and Newcastle have lost just once in seven matches following his return.''

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Gordaleman » Fri May 21, 2021 1:02 pm

beddie wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 3:04 pm
Yes I agree unless we get an offer we simply can’t refuse. I’ve mentioned on another thread that I’d have Tom back if Pope goes and still look for another number 2.
Unfortunately, Tom left for a better deal and it now looks as though he's going to Man U. If he does, you can be sure he'll get a better deal there as third choice, than we could offer him as first choice.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Fri May 21, 2021 1:34 pm

What about Romero from United? Unless he wants a move back home?

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by TsarBomba » Fri May 21, 2021 1:43 pm

Zizkov- slightly off topic, but what’s the deal with Adam Hlozek? Is he someone we should be looking at, and can afford? Looks a real talent.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by HunterST_BFC » Fri May 21, 2021 4:09 pm

BPF is a good keeper.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by edison » Fri May 21, 2021 4:11 pm

HunterST_BFC wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:09 pm
BPF is a good keeper.
Bee keeper
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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 4:14 pm

Think we should move heaven & earth and bring Tom home,when Pope leaves we are in deep shlt with Peacock & Norris..quite obviously out of their depth in the Premier league

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 4:17 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 1:02 pm
Unfortunately, Tom left for a better deal and it now looks as though he's going to Man U. If he does, you can be sure he'll get a better deal there as third choice, than we could offer him as first choice.
Tom will want to play not sit on Uniteds bench,Tom knows the score at United...he won't play,money isn't everything

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Gordaleman » Fri May 21, 2021 4:19 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:17 pm
Tom will want to play not sit on Uniteds bench,Tom knows the score at United...he won't play,money isn't everything
Don't be so sure. Just about every media outlet in the land, says he's going to Utd.

Oh how I wish he'd come back to Burnley. Great goalie and great Captain. (Not that Ben Mee isn't.)

We could almost certainly offer him a coaching role as well.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 4:22 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:19 pm
Don't be so sure. Just about every media outlet in the land, says he's going to Utd.

Oh how I wish he'd come back to Burnley. Great goalie and great Captain. (Not that Ben Mee isn't.)

We could almost certainly offer him a coaching role as well.
Huge bank balance..never playing..... ok

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Gordaleman » Fri May 21, 2021 4:31 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:22 pm
Huge bank balance..never playing..... ok
Well that's why he left Burnley. Purely to improve his bank balance. Sean Dyche said so.

I know one thing, if someone offered me double bubble to do now't, I'd snap their hand off.
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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by tiger76 » Fri May 21, 2021 4:31 pm

HunterST_BFC wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:09 pm
BPF is a good keeper.
Not based on the evidence thus far he isn't, and it's not just at Burnley where he's been error prone he's made several howlers for NI over the past year also.

The real worry is neither BPF or Norris would inspire me with confidence if I was a defender playing in front of them, and for me that's the real crux of the issue.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 4:45 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:31 pm
Not based on the evidence thus far he isn't, and it's not just at Burnley where he's been error prone he's made several howlers for NI over the past year also.

The real worry is neither BPF or Norris would inspire me with confidence if I was a defender playing in front of them, and for me that's the real crux of the issue.
Take away Pope & possibly(almost certainly) Tarkowski...and we are gone with our current replacements

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 4:46 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:31 pm
Well that's why he left Burnley. Purely to improve his bank balance. Sean Dyche said so.

I know one thing, if someone offered me double bubble to do now't, I'd snap their hand off.
Unambitious lazy git. :lol:

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Gordaleman » Fri May 21, 2021 4:51 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:46 pm
Unambitious lazy git. :lol:
These days yes. Been there, done it etc.. Now in my 70s and happily retired. :lol:

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 4:52 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:51 pm
These days yes. Been there, done it etc.. Now in my 70s and happily retired. :lol:
:D Well done

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Gordaleman » Fri May 21, 2021 4:55 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:45 pm
Take away Pope & possibly(almost certainly) Tarkowski...and we are gone with our current replacements
Surely, you don't think we'd let those two go and not replace them? We want to increase the squad size, not deplete it.

Tarky may leave, but I can't see Pope going.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 5:03 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:55 pm
Surely, you don't think we'd let those two go and not replace them? We want to increase the squad size, not deplete it.

Tarky may leave, but I can't see Pope going.
Replace,you do understand our transfer policy don't you?

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by tiger76 » Fri May 21, 2021 5:24 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:45 pm
Take away Pope & possibly(almost certainly) Tarkowski...and we are gone with our current replacements

Depends who we get in, you'd imagine we'd garner a minimum of £50m for the pair, so if we could spend that kitty wisely we might still be able to compete next season, but that duo exiting would leave us with a gaping hole to fill. And no you're 100% correct Long & the 2 keepers aren't the answer certainly not in the PL, if we were competing in the Champ then maybe they would suffice, but not at the elite level, they've shown in their brief appearances that they aren't good enough, and we have to be ruthless I'm afraid and clear out the deadwood this summer who're inflating the wage bill and offering next to nothing on the park.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 5:33 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:24 pm
If Pope goes...I think its obvious that Peacock or Norris will be his replacement,really can't see us throwing 50 million on incoming transfers can you?

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Post by Rileybobs » Fri May 21, 2021 5:37 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:33 pm
If Pope goes...I think its obvious that Peacock or Norris will be his replacement,really can't see us throwing 50 million on incoming transfers can you?
On recent evidence I’m pretty sure we’d be signing a new first choice keeper should Pope leave. Probably the most important position in our side and one of the main reasons of our success during this PL period.
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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by tiger76 » Fri May 21, 2021 5:42 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:33 pm
If Pope goes...I think its obvious that Peacock or Norris will be his replacement,really can't see us throwing 50 million on incoming transfers can you?
Well if either replace Pope we need to hope that they somehow massively improve over the summer, otherwise it's going to be a truly depressing season next year, and we'll swiftly find ourselves back in the Championship, so a big decision for SD and the new board to make if a large offer does come on the table for Nick.

No I don't expect us to spend £50m on transfers, but we need to spend some cash this summer, we got away with not investing in the previous summer, but there's no way we'll be as lucky again this season.
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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 5:47 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:37 pm
On recent evidence I’m pretty sure we’d be signing a new first choice keeper should Pope leave. Probably the most important position in our side and one of the main reasons of our success during this PL period.
We need replacement's in lots of positions RB....I can't see a keeper being a priority if Pope goes which is throughly depressing,our recent transfer dealings over the last few seasons are going to really hit home next season

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Rileybobs » Fri May 21, 2021 5:49 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:47 pm
We need replacement's in lots of positions RB....I can't see a keeper being a priority if Pope goes which is throughly depressing,our recent transfer dealings over the last few seasons are going to really hit home next season
I don’t think Pope will leave. But if he did we would get a very healthy amount of money, some of which I am certain would be used to sign a replacement. Because to not do so would very likely lead to relegation.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 5:52 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:49 pm
I don’t think Pope will leave. But if he did we would get a very healthy amount of money, some of which I am certain would be used to sign a replacement. Because to not do so would very likely lead to relegation.
We need at least 5 or 6 automatic first teamers this summer...that's going to cost serious money....can you see that happening?

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Post by Rileybobs » Fri May 21, 2021 5:53 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:52 pm
We need at least 5 or 6 automatic first teamers this summer...that's going to cost serious money....can you see that happening?
No. But I also don’t think we need 5 or 6 automatic first teamers.

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Post by tim_noone » Fri May 21, 2021 5:53 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 4:14 pm
Think we should move heaven & earth and bring Tom home,when Pope leaves we are in deep shlt with Peacock & Norris..quite obviously out of their depth in the Premier league
:lol: :lol: :lol: That Dyche Fella knows Fcuk All.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 5:57 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:53 pm
No. But I also don’t think we need 5 or 6 automatic first teamers.
Our team is aging....I think we do

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Post by Rileybobs » Fri May 21, 2021 5:58 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:57 pm
Our team is aging....I think we do
By first teamers do you mean players to start the first game of next season?

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Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 5:59 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:58 pm
By first teamers do you mean players to start the first game of next season?
No replacements for our old men. :lol:

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Post by Spijed » Fri May 21, 2021 6:03 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:52 pm
We need at least 5 or 6 automatic first teamers this summer...that's going to cost serious money....can you see that happening?
Putting 5 or 6 new players straight into the team will also lead to relegation.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 6:09 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 6:03 pm
Putting 5 or 6 new players straight into the team will also lead to relegation.
And not doing something..which we tend to do also means we will be relegated

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri May 21, 2021 6:35 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:52 pm
We need at least 5 or 6 automatic first teamers this summer...that's going to cost serious money....can you see that happening?
What we need and what we get will be miles apart.

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Post by Rileybobs » Fri May 21, 2021 6:36 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 6:09 pm
And not doing something..which we tend to do also means we will be relegated
That’s not true though is it, because this squad has comfortably avoided relegation this season, so it is likely they would be able to achieve that again next season. Obviously it could be argued that they are more likely to be relegated next season, but suggesting we need 5 or 6 first team players is a big exaggeration. We will sign a replacement for Tarks and I would have thought 3 more players at best - a couple of whom would be unlikely to be immediately displacing our current first eleven.

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Post by warksclaret » Fri May 21, 2021 7:07 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 6:36 pm
That’s not true though is it, because this squad has comfortably avoided relegation this season, so it is likely they would be able to achieve that again next season. Obviously it could be argued that they are more likely to be relegated next season, but suggesting we need 5 or 6 first team players is a big exaggeration. We will sign a replacement for Tarks and I would have thought 3 more players at best - a couple of whom would be unlikely to be immediately displacing our current first eleven.
If we are signing several players who are not good enough to start in the first 11 then you need to question their short term and long term abilities. For example a right winger playing second fiddle to JBG is not going to be that inspiring (another Stephens situation). Much prefer we go for proper quality (like we once used to) and then use some of the current starting 11 to become very much part of the first team squad. That way you get proper competition which we so sadly lack
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Post by Rileybobs » Fri May 21, 2021 8:06 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 7:07 pm
If we are signing several players who are not good enough to start in the first 11 then you need to question their short term and long term abilities. For example a right winger playing second fiddle to JBG is not going to be that inspiring (another Stephens situation). Much prefer we go for proper quality (like we once used to) and then use some of the current starting 11 to become very much part of the first team squad. That way you get proper competition which we so sadly lack
I agree, but if you look beyond a replacement for Tarkowski I can’t see us having the financial clout to buy any more than 2 players with the intention of them going straight into the side. The only first choice positions we can realistically look to improve on are right back and right midfield. We may be in the market for a central midfielder and striker (if one makes way), but it’s doubtful that either would go straight into the side.

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Post by Gordaleman » Fri May 21, 2021 9:05 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 5:03 pm
Replace,you do understand our transfer policy don't you?
Better than you by the sound of things.

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri May 21, 2021 9:26 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 7:07 pm
If we are signing several players who are not good enough to start in the first 11 then you need to question their short term and long term abilities. For example a right winger playing second fiddle to JBG is not going to be that inspiring (another Stephens situation). Much prefer we go for proper quality (like we once used to) and then use some of the current starting 11 to become very much part of the first team squad. That way you get proper competition which we so sadly lack
If the aim is to reinvigorate the squad then there's nothing wrong with bringing in potential first teamers to replace some of the highly paid "never-will-bes" who have had a decent wage for doing the sum total of next to buggerall.

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 21, 2021 10:51 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 9:05 pm
Better than you by the sound of things.
:lol: whatever old-timer :lol:

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sat May 22, 2021 3:23 am

If Pope did leave (for whatever reasons) we could do worse than replace him with an exact replica. The young lad at Fenerbahce is 6’6” plays exactly the same way (saves mainly because of legs and wingspan) and is only 23.

Can we sign Turkish players that haven’t been capped? Behind on the info on that these days.

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Post by superdimitri » Sat May 22, 2021 4:00 am

They will require a work permit now I guess which means it's unlikely if they haven't been capped.

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Post by Gordaleman » Sat May 22, 2021 9:23 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 10:51 pm
:lol: whatever old-timer :lol:
Don't mock the older generation Steve. You'll be there yourself, sooner than you realise. :lol:

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Post by Steve1956 » Sat May 22, 2021 10:43 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat May 22, 2021 9:23 am
Don't mock the older generation Steve. You'll be there yourself, sooner than you realise. :lol:
All in jest mate....im already old with you! :D

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Re: It is now imperative we keep Pope at all costs

Post by Gordaleman » Sat May 22, 2021 10:48 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat May 22, 2021 10:43 am


All in jest mate....im already old with you! :D
Fair enough.

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