Ancelotti to Real Madrid

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon May 31, 2021 9:08 pm

Looks to be on the cards.

Let’s hope Pace gets Dyches signature on the contract ASAP.

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Mon May 31, 2021 9:21 pm

Can’t see Everton fans accepting Dyche after such a high profile manager.

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Mon May 31, 2021 9:35 pm

Can't see Everton as a club accepting dyche. Not the standard required.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon May 31, 2021 9:37 pm

andyh wrote: ↑
Mon May 31, 2021 9:21 pm
Can’t see Everton fans accepting Dyche after such a high profile manager.

Quite a few Everton fans not happy with Ancelotti defensive football.

Dyches style wouldn't win them over.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon May 31, 2021 9:40 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon May 31, 2021 9:37 pm
Quite a few Everton fans not happy with Ancelotti defensive football.

Dyches style wouldn't win them over.

They’ve not progressed as much as they thought they would under Ancelotti but I doubt Everton would move for a Dyche type manager if they did lose Ancelotti.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon May 31, 2021 11:04 pm

cant see dyche accepting everton

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon May 31, 2021 11:20 pm

Would be a strange move for Ancelotti.
If they weren't willing to back a manager who led them to 3 CL trophies, they're not likely to sufficiently back Ancelotti.
They need a lot of work.

Ancelotti has a project at Everton, that's beginning to take shape as shown by the great start to the season.
Yes they tailed off, but the aim for next season is to improve again and their sqaud was disjointed anyway.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:51 am

Roberto Martinez leaves Belgium after the Euro's.........

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:03 am

Everton have some decent fans but also some of the most deluded in the country.

1 major trophy the last 30 years and some of them still think they are the team of the mid 80s. The simple fact as already stated that Dyche wouldn't be their type this despite non of Ancelotti, Silva, Koeman or Martinez getting close to the job Moyes did

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:14 am

I don't see why people think Dyche is just a defensive coach. He's shown when he has better players he can play better football AND get more points.

With the talent at Everton I reckon he could do well given time - another key factor.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:59 am

Hipper wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:14 am
I don't see why people think Dyche is just a defensive coach. He's shown when he has better players he can play better football AND get more points.

With the talent at Everton I reckon he could do well given time - another key factor.

Dyche, quite rightly, understands you need to be organised defensively. That doesn’t make him a defensive coach.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:05 pm

Everton are awash momentarily with some alleged dodgy money and with not being in the champions league may find the new stadium a millstone around their neck, I doubt Dyche would be that tempted.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:21 pm

Everton (wrongly) probably wouldn’t be interested in Dyche but I’m sure Dyche would be interested in Everton.

They’re a huge club, the very definition of a sleeping giant.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:26 pm

Oh I'm sure Dyche would go to Everton given the chance. Luckily for us they see him (wrongly) as beneath them.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:42 pm

Falcon wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:26 pm
Oh I'm sure Dyche would go to Everton given the chance. Luckily for us they see him (wrongly) as beneath them.

Dyche needs to win a cup if he wants to get a job where clubs want to win things. He's proved he can stay up with a limited budget and have a season in the Europa league. But ultimately we didn't make the group stages.

If Ancelotti goes to Real Madrid then out of the last 6 managers they have had. One will be at Real Madrid, one at Barca and one managing Belgium.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:56 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:42 pm
Dyche needs to win a cup if he wants to get a job where clubs want to win things. He's proved he can stay up with a limited budget and have a season in the Europa league. But ultimately we didn't make the group stages.

If Ancelotti goes to Real Madrid then out of the last 6 managers they have had. One will be at Real Madrid, one at Barca and one managing Belgium.

Have you got Everton included in the clubs that want to win things category ?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:07 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:56 pm
Have you got Everton included in the clubs that want to win things category ?

Don’t all clubs want to win things?

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:07 pm
Don’t all clubs want to win things?

There are a high number of men who would like a night with Michelle Keegan, doesn't mean it has any chance of happening

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:13 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:11 pm
There are a high number of men who would like a night with Michelle Keegan, doesn't mean it has any chance of happening

I'm holding out for a night with Kelly Brook, more meat on her.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:20 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:56 pm
Have you got Everton included in the clubs that want to win things category ?

Yes, they certainly do.

It's not easy but they play their first team in cup games to give them a chance.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:31 pm

20/21 Fa Cup quarters & League Cup quarters & 10th in league
19/20 Fa Cup 3rd rd & League Cup quarters & 12th in league (below us)
18/19 Fa Cup 4th rd & League Cup 3rd rd & 8th in league
17/18 Fa Cup 3rd rd & League Cup 4th rd & 8th in league (below us)
16/17 Fa Cup 3rd rd & League Cup 3rd rd & 7th in league
15/16 Fa Cup semis & League Cup semis & 11th in league

Not really helping much is it this concentrating on cups. As I said they have some of the most deluded fans in the country

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:25 pm

Looks like it's a done deal according to journalists on twitter.

Moyes, who is yet to sign his new deal at West Ham could be the favourite for Everton. Or maybe Nuno?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:34 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:13 pm
I'm holding out for a night with Kelly Brook, more meat on her.

Well you're behind me in the queue, but dont worry I'll be sure to tell you, and anyone else that will listen if I get my go!

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:36 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:25 pm
Looks like it's a done deal according to journalists on twitter.

Moyes, who is yet to sign his new deal at West Ham could be the favourite for Everton. Or maybe Nuno?

Looking like Eddie Howe and Nuno are favourites for the job.

Dyche is really far down the list. Surprised at this, thought they were interested in him previously.

Claret_tinted · Post by **Claret_tinted** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:59 am
Dyche, quite rightly, understands you need to be organised defensively. That doesn’t make him a defensive coach.

Absolutely agree. Sadly, the majority fan mindset of being a defensive coach is likely to hasten his departure for fear of being stereotyped as such.

Dyche is a brilliant manager who rightly should be considered for a next step job. Everton would be an ideal destination.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:14 pm

3 out of the last 4 managers to finish 10th in the Premier league has managed Real Madrid.

The 4th is Dyche. Maybe he will get a chance?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:49 pm

Surprised the Everton job hasn't been given to Potter yet.

fanzone · Post by **fanzone** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:00 pm

Ancelotti jumping ship back to a club that has already disposed of him once shows there's absolutely no loyalty in football, it's all about who's paying the most €€€.

It weren't long ago he were giving it the big en that Everton were going to challenge for the title next season.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:02 pm

Done - Everton have just confirmed Ancelotti has left the club

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:07 pm

Howe to Everton.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:27 pm

So much for CA building a project at Goodison, you do wonder whether that gig proved tougher than he initially thought, and now RM have come calling it's an easy exit for him to take.

Ancelotti was so good at Everton that Burnley took 4 points off them this season, and arguably it should have been 6.

What is it about Real that causes them to keep rehiring managers, first Zidane, now Ancelotti, at this rate they'll be appointing Jose again in a couple of years.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:36 pm

fanzone wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:00 pm
Ancelotti jumping ship back to a club that has already disposed of him once shows there's absolutely no loyalty in football, it's all about who's paying the most €€€.

It weren't long ago he were giving it the big en that Everton were going to challenge for the title next season.

Never as been to be fair, it's far & few between & extremely rare, he's been offered a better job & as you correctly state more dollar, reading snippets on grand old team prior to the departure some weren't exactly enthused about him anyway so if they get the right guy in it might work out well for them.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:43 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57319559

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:57 pm

fanzone wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:00 pm
Ancelotti jumping ship back to a club that has already disposed of him once shows there's absolutely no loyalty in football, it's all about who's paying the most €€€.

It weren't long ago he were giving it the big en that Everton were going to challenge for the title next season.

That’s awfully telling on how Everton are being run. Dyche would do well to steer clear surely

matucana · Post by **matucana** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:03 pm

Coincidence that Alan Irvine resigned from managerial duties at West Ham to return north last week?

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:12 pm

Be interesting to see what happens to players like Rodriguez who came to Everton because of Ancelotti.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:36 pm

Well that's given him a clean way out

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:32 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:12 pm
Be interesting to see what happens to players like Rodriguez who came to Everton because of Ancelotti.

I think it's been to cold him and he was going to leave anyway.

Far too many niggly injuries that nobody knew about.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:32 pm

Everton are, in my opinion, the perfect team for Dyche to manage and it's presented itself at the perfect time for him.

A definite upward move for Dyche and a no loss situation for Everton. He could keep them in the top half of the PL without trying.

If this doesn't happen now, a forward move away from Burnley will never happen.

Claret Toni · Post by **Claret Toni** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:00 pm

Hope Michael Keane doesn't put a good word in for him.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:01 pm

Looking like Moyes could well be on his way to Everton.

Be interesting to see who West Ham go for.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:08 pm

10/1 at the moment Moyes. Fill your boots.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:00 pm

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Trying to work out which manager is going where...

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:33 pm

This is shaping up to be a very interesting summer; managerial vacancies at Palace, Wolves, Everton and Spurs. You’d expect lots of them will be clearing out and a lot of transfer activity generally. I think a lot will be surprised at the deals on offer as clubs look to cut their wage bills.

I do think the departure of Mourinho, Ancelotti, Nuno and to an extent the loss of Hodgson’s experience, is a blow to the Prem. I like to see us pitting ourselves against the best managers in world football so I hope they’re all replaced with equal calibre (and not Dyche).

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:44 am

Assuming we keep Dyche, we go into the new season settled, whilst more importantly those other clubs don't and catching some early could lead to us getting more points in the bag.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:14 am

Daily Mail reporting Everton are targeting Dyche.

Let’s hope it’s not true.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:00 am

Kenwright really wanted him when they appointed BFS, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's still an admirer. Luckily I don't think he has so much influence there these days.

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:06 am

WBA also have a managerial vacancy

matucana · Post by **matucana** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:36 am

The appointment of Ancelloti did not happen overnight. This probably has been pursued for the last 3/4 weeks. Everton will be well advanced with their plans to replace him. The reported resignation last week of Alan Irvine at West Ham to return north is, I believe, significant. Over the last two seasons Moyes has developed into an excellent coach with a very good eye for first class low cost transfers which will appeal to the Everton board. Whilst Europe beckons for WHU next season which could stretch their playing resources to the limit, I think the longer term picture to develop a consistent top seven team will appeal to Moyes far more. He also resides fairly locally which should also be a further attraction. As has been mentioned by other posters smoke screens will abound to protect preferred targets.
Ancelloti was never quite the same confident individual following the recent burglary at his family home on Merseyside . I suspect that also had something to do with his decision to move now.

s6t9a2f3f · Post by **s6t9a2f3f** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:41 am

Just goes to show that profile goes before an experienced managerial CV. SD would have gone 2 years ago if he had that "eddie howe attacking football / neutering young talent" tattoo but he has not, his prehistoric style if you like is going to label him throughout his whole career - bit like Big Sam, Pullis etc etc. No matter where he goes SD wont get as much appreciated as where he is right now (as long as he does not regularly read this message board after certain defeats !!!) A board that really backs him will test him as he could buy better, more gifted players thus giving him options to play more expansive football - thus if he can adapt become more "than a one hit pony".
Interesting how it all plays out.