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Juan Tanamera
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by Juan Tanamera » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:15 pm
Top Claret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:03 pm
Really don't know what to think of us signing an unknown Brazilian, to be honest I would be a bit underwhelmed.
I doubt Dyche knows much if anything about him and its a Alk signing. Never been a fan of out and out wingers they always remind me of a school boy, who play like a headless chicken. He will be in for a shock playing in the Premier league for Burnley where there is more to the game than running with the ball, he will have to put in a proper shift by tracking back and putting a foot in.
I doubt we will see much of him this season he will more than likely put in with the under 23s to learn his trade.
You probably never saw the likes of Willie Morgan, Ralph Coates, Leighton James and Dave Thomas play.
Four of the finest exponents of the wingers trade.
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by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:19 pm
He could be a honey trap signing to lure other potential signings in. For example - yeh we’ve got Dwight McNeil and Arthur Gomes but you would fit right in here Mr…….
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by Taffy on the wing » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:24 pm
wilks_bfc wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:12 pm
We can’t win with some fans can we
Fans say we should be looking to the foreign market more and trying to find these undiscovered gems
The when it appears we have done, we then get “never heard of him, can’t see him fitting in & playing”
They don't realize that they're the reason nobody wants to come here.
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by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:26 pm
Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:24 pm
They don't realize that they're the reason nobody wants to come here.
Never change, Taff, never change.
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by randomclaret2 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:27 pm
Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:24 pm
They don't realize that they're the reason nobody wants to come here.
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by 1989_claret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:27 pm
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by NewClaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:29 pm
1989_claret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:27 pm
Started following Burnley on Instagram so must be true
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Good calibre of clubs there.
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by Wile E Coyote » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:30 pm
sounds like a good move to bring this lad in. makes for a bit of a story too with signing a Brazilian.
Think the negative comment about his time at Santos are irrelevant. Lot's of players find their feet further down the line. A lot of the games big names were considered duds as youngsters.
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by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:32 pm
Wikipedia shows him playing for us.
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by SGr » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:34 pm
Fair play. I actually haven’t a clue who this guy is. I would like some clarification from those in the know on the potential work permit issue though? He isn’t a proven international or signing for big money, so how do we get around this?
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by WiscoClaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:35 pm
Some wishful updating of Wikipedia has already taken place! It could be true but don’t trust everything you read on Wikipedia (or the internet for that matter!)
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:37 pm
SGr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:34 pm
Fair play. I actually haven’t a clue who this guy is. I would like some clarification from those in the know on the potential work permit issue though? He isn’t a proven international or signing for big money, so how do we get around this?
Can he not get in with his youth international appearances
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by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:39 pm
Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:15 pm
You probably never saw the likes of Willie Morgan, Ralph Coates, Leighton James and Dave Thomas play.
Four of the finest exponents of the wingers trade.
Good call with those four
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by NewClaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:41 pm
Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:30 pm
sounds like a good move to bring this lad in. makes for a bit of a story too with signing a Brazilian.
Think the negative comment about his time at Santos are irrelevant. Lot's of players find their feet further down the line. A lot of the games big names were considered duds as youngsters.
Can’t see how anyone can watch this and disagree that he has some talent:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nSiimYzNahc
Obviously won’t be the finished article at €2.5m, and likely inconsistent, but clearly some great technical ability and pace there as attributes to develop. LW so cover for Dwight so not like we need him to be first team-ready.
Hopefully leaves cash available for a big RW signing and doesn’t break the bank if it doesn’t work out.
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by ClaretGent » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:41 pm
Well...this has certainly livened up my Sunday evening. Reminds me of Super John Francis...on speed!
Somebody needs to tell the creators of the second video it's Burnley not Barcelona
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by Juan Tanamera » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:48 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:41 pm
Can’t see how anyone can watch this and disagree that he has some talent:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nSiimYzNahc
Obviously won’t be the finished article at €2.5m, and likely inconsistent, but clearly some great technical ability and pace there as attributes to develop. LW so cover for Dwight so not like we need him to be first team-ready.
Hopefully leaves cash available for a big RW signing and doesn’t break the bank if it doesn’t work out.
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by Hibsclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:59 pm
You’ve gotta love that he follows Barca and Real. Sounds like a bit of a dreamer to me so let’s get him up to speed for his dream move to Spain.
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by ClaretTony » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:00 pm
I wonder if he found him because he used the AIScout App
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by Wokingclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:03 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:00 pm
I wonder if he found him because he used the AIScout App
By his picture in the Burnley Express it looks like the AIScout profile
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by CleggHall » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:06 pm
Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:15 pm
You probably never saw the likes of Willie Morgan, Ralph Coates, Leighton James and Dave Thomas play.
Four of the finest exponents of the wingers trade.
John Connelly was arguably better than these 4, certainly in terms of goals scored. Got a bagful in 59/60 championship winning season.
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by Cheshireclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:07 pm
I reckon he’ll be the most fouled player in The Premier League…….
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by minnieclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:08 pm
Hibsclaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:59 pm
You’ve gotta love that he follows Barca and Real. Sounds like a bit of a dreamer to me so let’s get him up to speed for his dream move to Spain.
He doesn’t. It says “follow”, you press it and it changes to “following”. As with Burnley fc.
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by Hibsclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:12 pm
Ahh. Apologies for my lack of technical knowledge around all things Twitter. Back to the abacus for me.
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by ClaretTony » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:13 pm
CleggHall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:06 pm
John Connelly was arguably better than these 4, certainly in terms of goals scored. Got a bagful in 59/60 championship winning season.
Fantastic player and one of that team who would drop into today’s football seamlessly
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by Tall Paul » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:14 pm
minnieclaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:08 pm
He doesn’t. It says “follow”, you press it and it changes to “following”. As with Burnley fc.
Whoever screenshotted it is following Burnley FC and not the others. Gomes is following them all.
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by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:15 pm
I haven't read all the thread, but is it just me who thinks he looks like Gary Wilmot!
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by Somethingfishy » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:15 pm
minnieclaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:08 pm
He doesn’t. It says “follow”, you press it and it changes to “following”. As with Burnley fc.
He follows all the people on that list. The person viewing his list only follows Burnley FC.
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by Hibsclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:16 pm
Great. So the point stands that he dreams of playing for either of the Spanish giants or most likely he knows someone who plays for them.
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by Juan Tanamera » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:16 pm
CleggHall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:06 pm
John Connelly was arguably better than these 4, certainly in terms of goals scored. Got a bagful in 59/60 championship winning season.
John Connelly was just before my time, though I've many tales of players from that era from my two older brothers.
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by Devils_Advocate » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:18 pm
Has anyone checked who he follows on Twitter and how many friends he has on facebook?
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by ClaretMov » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:19 pm
I bet its Arthur Gnohere we are trying to re sign, he's only 42 year's old
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by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:19 pm
He could be a honey trap signing to lure other potential signings in. For example - yeh we’ve got Dwight McNeil and Arthur Gomes but you would fit right in here Mr…….
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by Somethingfishy » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:20 pm
Hibsclaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:16 pm
Great. So the point stands that he dreams of playing for either of the Spanish giants or most likely he knows someone who plays for them.
Or he is just a fan of those clubs as probably most young Latin-American football following people are..perhaps.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:20 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:41 pm
Can’t see how anyone can watch this and disagree that he has some talent:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nSiimYzNahc
Obviously won’t be the finished article at €2.5m, and likely inconsistent, but clearly some great technical ability and pace there as attributes to develop. LW so cover for Dwight so not like we need him to be first team-ready.
Hopefully leaves cash available for a big RW signing and doesn’t break the bank if it doesn’t work out.
Showed some real flashes of talent on that video. Let’s hope the scouts have found a hidden gem.
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by Somethingfishy » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:22 pm
Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:19 pm
He could be a honey trap signing to lure other potential signings in. For example - yeh we’ve got Dwight McNeil and Arthur Gomes but you would fit right in here Mr…….
You said exactly the same an hour ago.
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by RVclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:27 pm
Is it only that thinks this is a bit ‘meh’? Like, imagine it’s just this guy and Lennon. Jeez.
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by Juan Tanamera » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:27 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:20 pm
Showed some real flashes of talent on that video. Let’s hope the scouts have found a hidden gem.
If you look at the beginning of that video it says 1998.
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by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:28 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:27 pm
Is it only that thinks this is a bit ‘meh’? Like, imagine it’s just this guy and Lennon. Jeez.
Who were you expecting? Messi?
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by OffTheBar » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:30 pm
Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:27 pm
If you look at the beginning of that video it says 1998.
Isn’t that his date of birth?
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by PWBFC » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:31 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:00 pm
I wonder if he found him because he used the AIScout App
If we have and he plays even one minute in the Premier League, it'd be quite the story.
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by taio » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:31 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:27 pm
Is it only that thinks this is a bit ‘meh’? Like, imagine it’s just this guy and Lennon. Jeez.
Not sure how anyone can form such a judgement since nobody has a clue how good he is.
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by NewClaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:34 pm
taio wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:31 pm
Not sure how anyone can form such a judgement since nobody has a clue how good he is.
He/she is such a positive poster
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by FeedTheArf » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:34 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:00 pm
I wonder if he found him because he used the AIScout App
Isn’t the app meant to be for players who are currently unattached?
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by RVclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:35 pm
taio wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:31 pm
Not sure how anyone can form such a judgement since nobody has a clue how good he is.
Just going off comments about him from Burnley fans in Brazil as well as Santos fans who seem to suggest he is rubbish - plus the fact he’s had 2 assists in 5 years as a winger. If he’s a main signing (over a Cornet/Lookman/Christie) for example then it’s quite concerning. But yeah look forward to seeing what he’s about.
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by Fez » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:40 pm
I wonder how many burnley fans there actually is in Brazil and i wonder how many of them have actually watched the lad play. I'll hazard a guess at zero.
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by TheFamilyCat » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:41 pm
PWBFC wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:31 pm
If we have and he plays even one minute in the Premier League, it'd be quite the story.
Yes, a big success story for AIscout. Call me cynical...
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by randomclaret2 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:42 pm
Fez wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:40 pm
I wonder how many burnley fans there actually is in Brazil and i wonder how many of them have actually watched the lad play. I'll hazard a guess at zero.
Boden seems to have found one on Twitter...
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by RVclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:42 pm
Fez wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:40 pm
I wonder how many burnley fans there actually is in Brazil and i wonder how many of them have actually watched the lad play. I'll hazard a guess at zero.
If you go back a page or two on here you will see one and the comments made. Also on Twitter there is a burnley fans in Brazil page so you are horribly wrong unfortunately…
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by Fez » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:48 pm
There's being a burnley fan in Brazil then there's having any idea who this lad is, hes been on loan at small clubs so i highly doubt they've actually watched him play.