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Newcastle get their man

Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:11 pm


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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:17 pm

Was outstanding for them in his loan there last season.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:18 pm

Good signing for them

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:18 pm

Huge fee but that’s the level we’re at in the PL.

Just looking at his record again for them last season - looks like he scored 8 goals in 14 appearances. If he gets close to that again it probably keeps them up.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Top Claret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:38 am

Ashley is a good chairman he always pulls the stops out one road or tother

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:56 am

Not really a big fee in today's market really. Good signing for them and improves their 11.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Mattster » Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:06 am

The other way to look at it is that they've had to spend £25m just to stay at the same level they finished last season. It's the problem with loan moves unless there's an agreed buy option, before those goals on loan his fee would probably been around half that amount.

If we get any loans this window I hope we're getting buy options written into the deal.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by bobinho » Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:11 am

Looks like decent enough business. Good player and potential to develop further.

He’s ok, but no Gomes….

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by RVclaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:12 am

Good player but agree with Mattster - very expensive signing to not even improve from last season.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:24 am

Good signing :(

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by taio » Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:38 am

Yes a good signing - he did very well for them last season. It puts some of the valuations e.g. £50m for McNeil into perspective.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:58 am

Odd move by Arsenal to sell him

Good price for a player with 2yrs left on his contract.

Should do well in Newcastle

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Mattster » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:04 am

taio wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:38 am
Yes a good signing - he did very well for them last season. It puts some of the valuations e.g. £50m for McNeil into perspective.
Not really, he's a fringe player at Arsenal with 2 years left on his contract. A completely different scenario to McNeil.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by the_fat_shearer » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:09 am

Good signing. Proven last year that he can do it which is a contrast to some of the sales of the bigger clubs - the likes of Liverpool selling players like Ibe for £15m to Bournemouth when they've done nothing in the Prem is just one example of a few who haven't been proven but clubs have demanded a significant fee.
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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:44 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:18 pm
Huge fee but that’s the level we’re at in the PL.

Just looking at his record again for them last season - looks like he scored 8 goals in 14 appearances. If he gets close to that again it probably keeps them up.
Sides with a midfielder scoring at that rate over a full season will get European football.

It's around double Chris Woods scoring rate for us.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:47 am

Ashley does back Bruce
But then again Ashley is a multimillionaire

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Mattster » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:15 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:44 am
Sides with a midfielder scoring at that rate over a full season will get European football.

It's around double Chris Woods scoring rate for us.
No way he replicates that over a full season.

Wood, for example had 8 goals in 13 games in the same time frame as Willock had 8 in 14 at the end of the season. Neither is keeping that rate up across 38, as much as I wish Wood would.
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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:18 am

Mattster wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:15 am
No way he replicates that over a full season.

Wood, for example had 8 goals in 13 games in the same time frame as Willock had 8 in 14 at the end of the season. Neither is keeping that rate up across 38, as much as I wish Wood would.
I agree, but Newcastle will stay up with out him.

Getting a regular goal scoring midfielder will shoot them up the league. As it would us.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by buzzclarets79 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:28 pm

Played well to get himself in the shop window as he prob knew he wouldn't get a chance at Arsenal. If he can repeat the form he showed it's a great signing but can't help but feel might be a slight drop in effort now he's made that move. Also didn't seem to be much interest from other teams

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:31 pm

buzzclarets79 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:28 pm
Played well to get himself in the shop window as he prob knew he wouldn't get a chance at Arsenal. If he can repeat the form he showed it's a great signing but can't help but feel might be a slight drop in effort now he's made that move. Also didn't seem to be much interest from other teams
I seem to remember years ago a player named Malcolm Smith was brilliant when playing on loan for us but his fotm dropped off when we signed him permanently.
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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by warksclaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:43 pm

Good way to do business-outstanding when on loan, and now he poses no risk to Newcastle. He guaranteed them quite a few points through his goals

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:54 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:18 pm
Huge fee but that’s the level we’re at in the PL.

Just looking at his record again for them last season - looks like he scored 8 goals in 14 appearances. If he gets close to that again it probably keeps them up.
if Saint Maximin stays fit they will be comfortably mid table

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:07 pm

Apparently signing Anguissa from Fulham as well. They have played a blinder this window if they get both of them

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Peter Loo » Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:35 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:31 pm
I seem to remember years ago a player named Malcolm Smith was brilliant when playing on loan for us but his fotm dropped off when we signed him permanently.
Yes I remember that very strange cost £20000 didn’t he?

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:13 pm

Looks like they might not be getting their man after all.
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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Local cricketer » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:16 pm

Has he got lost or is he hitch hiking

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:24 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:12 am
Good player but agree with Mattster - very expensive signing to not even improve from last season.
He does improve them though because he’s staying if he left the contributions he made last season would be void assuming he has another good season, it’s definitely an improvement because you need to make that judgement as if he wasn’t there.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:33 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:13 pm
Looks like they might not be getting their man after all.
He's holding out for another club to come in for him isn't he?

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by minnieclaret » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:49 pm

Wages the stumbling block according to the overnight papers.
All politics. He’ll sign in the end.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:14 am

Has he followed them on instagram yet

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by jojomk1 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:52 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:33 pm
He's holding out for another club to come in for him isn't he?
Come on Mr Pace - this is your chance to shine
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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by tiger76 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:32 pm

Surprise, surprise it looks like they've now agreed personal terms with Willock, and this deal will now be confirmed.

Given Arsenal's lack of gaols from midfield it's a surprise that Arteta is letting Willock go, but maybe he needs to generate funds for any incomings he wishes to make.

However even if Newcastle do sign Willock, it still won't improve their starting XI from last season, and arguably they've had an even quieter window than we have endured.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:46 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:32 pm
However even if Newcastle do sign Willock, it still won't improve their starting XI from last season, and arguably they've had an even quieter window than we have endured.
It will improve their starting XI because they will have him for a full season and not just from February. Also Newcastle came 12th which if they can repeat would be a decent season and if by keeping the loan player who helped them end the season with Champions League form and climb from 17th to 12th they can do that then it is a very positive and important signing for them

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by tiger76 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:01 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:46 pm
It will improve their starting XI because they will have him for a full season and not just from February. Also Newcastle came 12th which if they can repeat would be a decent season and if by keeping the loan player who helped them end the season with Champions League form and climb from 17th to 12th they can do that then it is a very positive and important signing for them
Newcastle are remarkably similar to Burnley, in that if they're lacking key individuals they'll struggle, just compare their results when ASM and Callum Wilson were absent, and then compare to the last 8/10 games once that duo returned, Willock is a good signing based on his purple patch while on loan, but it'll be interesting to see whether he maintains that level now he's got his big money move, if he can he could well be knocking on the England squad door.

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Re: Newcastle get their man

Post by tiger76 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:07 pm

Done deal regarding Willock, pending a medical.

Arsenal midfielder Joe Willock has agreed personal terms with Newcastle and will travel to the north-east for a medical ahead of a permanent transfer.

The deal for the 21-year-old is expected to be in the region of £25m and comes after a successful loan spell with Steve Bruce's side last season. ​

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