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Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:51 am

Now that the fun of the transfer window is over, what is your starting eleven vs Everton. (For the benefit of page I am taking it Cornet is available for selection).

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Gudmundsson Cork Westwood Cornet
Mcneil
Wood


However I would be tempted by a midfield three with Cornet and McNeil wide.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by warksclaret » Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:59 am

The big question is will SD start with Cornet-few new players have unless they joined pre season, although Jeff Hendrick went straight into the team v Leicester. I have a feeling we start with the same team v Leeds and Cornet will come on in the second half

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by claretburns » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:02 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:51 am
Now that the fun of the transfer window is over, what is your starting eleven vs Everton. (For the benefit of page I am taking it Cornet is available for selection).

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Gudmundsson Cork Westwood Cornet
Mcneil
Wood


However I would be tempted by a midfield three with Cornet and McNeil wide.
Cornet cannot play against Everton. If he plays for Ivory Coast in Mozambique this afternoon he'll need to quarantine for 10 days when he returns to the UK next week and so will be unavailable.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by summitclaret » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:03 am

As op, but Brownhill for Cork. However, no chance that Cornet will start. It's just not SD. So Vydra to play behind Wood.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by evensteadiereddie » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:04 am

Are you assuming Brownhill is injured ?
If he's not, I'd start him and have Cornet on the bench to be unleashed in spectacular fashion if and when required.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:05 am

If I were the manager id go with

Pope

Lowton
Tarks
Mee
Taylor

cork

brownhill
westwood

mcneil
cornet

wood.



451/433

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:06 am

claretburns wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:02 am
Cornet cannot play against Everton. If he plays for Ivory Coast in Mozambique this afternoon he'll need to quarantine for 10 days when he returns to the UK next week and so will be unavailable.
I was under the impression premier league players are not allowed to play internationals in red listed countries?

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by martin_p » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:10 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:06 am
I was under the impression premier league players are not allowed to play internationals in red listed countries?
The premier league can’t dictate what foreign football associations do.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:13 am

No chance Cornet will start. Dyche has already said he first needs to settle into the area, meet the lads and see what he’s like in training. The fact he’s away on international now just adds more time to this.

My team would be the one that started against Leeds but with Vydra replacing Barnes.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by claretburns » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:14 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:06 am
I was under the impression premier league players are not allowed to play internationals in red listed countries?
The Premier League supported the clubs decision on what they wanted to do, but Spurs & Villa released their Argentinian players to play in red list countries meaning they'll quarantine when they return and miss a game.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by martin_p » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:17 am

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:13 am
No chance Cornet will start. Dyche has already said he first needs to settle into the area, meet the lads and see what he’s like in training. The fact he’s away on international now just adds more time to this.

My team would be the one that started against Leeds but with Vydra replacing Barnes.
There’s no chance he’ll be in the country never mind start (unless there’s some special dispensation for footballers) if he’s in Mozambique today. I suspect the Rochdale cup tie might be his first game.
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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by ClaretMov » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:28 am

My team if available would be

Pope

Roberts Tarks Mee Taylor

Cornet Brownhill Westwood McNeil

Vydra Wood

Or


Pope

Roberts Tarks Mee Taylor

Cornet Brownhill Westwood Gudmundsson

McNeil

Wood

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by bobinho » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:38 am

warksclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:59 am
The big question is will SD start with Cornet-few new players have unless they joined pre season, although Jeff Hendrick went straight into the team v Leicester. I have a feeling we start with the same team v Leeds and Cornet will come on in the second half
No big question here for me I’m afraid. It’s an easy answer. Cornet doesn’t start….

I’d take a gamble and have a look at him, blood him early so to speak, but if SD does, I’ll be most surprised. I think your last sentence will be bang on the money.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by bobinho » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:40 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:28 am
My team if available would be

Pope

Roberts Tarks Mee Taylor

Cornet Brownhill Westwood McNeil

Vydra Wood

That works for me…. I’d like that to get some time on the grass. Unfortunately, it may be some considerable time before that team starts a game.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:44 am

martin_p wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:17 am
I suspect the Rochdale cup tie might be his first game.
That's the glamour of English football that sealed the deal for him.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by martin_p » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:02 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:44 am
That's the glamour of English football that sealed the deal for him.
Throw him in at the deep end, a wet Tuesday night against Rochdale!

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:03 am

I understand the clamour to see Cornet turn out for us, but even if available after the international break can you really justify throwing him straight into the starting lineup? Similarly, where is the justification for dropping Lowton for Roberts? This goes against everything that this team stands for.
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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by NewClaret » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:08 am

I'd be shocked to see Dyche play a RB carrying a groin injury :lol: :lol: Roberts won't feature until fully recovered, I'd think, and may slot in at RW from the bench initially.

Imagine it will be the same again, with Vydra getting more time from the bench and hopefully a Cornet debut at some point, depending how the game is panning out (doubt he'll risk him if we get our noses in front).

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by jdrobbo » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:16 am

Pope

Lowton
Tarky
Mee
Taylor

JBG
Westwood
Cork
McNeil

Wood
Vydra

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:26 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:03 am
I understand the clamour to see Cornet turn out for us, but even if available after the international break can you really justify throwing him straight into the starting lineup? Similarly, where is the justification for dropping Lowton for Roberts? This goes against everything that this team stands for.
Cornet at best will be on the bench, and Roberts is still recovering from injury.

TBH it wouldn't surprise me if both feature in our 23's to build up their match fitness, before being thrown straight into the 1st team, and the challenge of PL footy at a new club.

Although that's more likely to be in Roberts case, as Cornet has played minutes for Lyon this season.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:31 am

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:26 am
Cornet at best will be on the bench, and Roberts is still recovering from injury.

TBH it wouldn't surprise me if both feature in our 23's to build up their match fitness, before being thrown straight into the 1st team, and the challenge of PL footy at a new club.

Although that's more likely to be in Roberts case, as Cornet has played minutes for Lyon this season.
That may be the case. I think Roberts, regardless of his current injury, will have to wait his turn. There’s very little reason to drop Lowton currently.

I can see Cornet being integrated into the starting eleven fairly soon, but this will understandably be after at least one appearance from the bench.

Even if the two of them were available against Everton I think it’s bonkers to suggest they should both start.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:31 am

Same as against Leeds...you should know Dyche by now boys.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:36 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:28 am
My team if available would be

Pope

Roberts Tarks Mee Taylor

Cornet Brownhill Westwood McNeil

Vydra Wood

Or


Pope

Roberts Tarks Mee Taylor

Cornet Brownhill Westwood Gudmundsson

McNeil

Wood
Now those are our two best 11s in my opinion and at least slightly realistic. I can’t imagine dyche going 3 or 5 at the back at the moment. We won’t play them against Everton because lowton will play and cornet won’t. Vydra is also unlikely until Barnes gets injured... but having the quality and creativity of McNeil, Cornet, Vydra or Gudmundsson on the pitch will improve our chance creation no end.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Paul Waine » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:47 am

claretburns wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:14 am
The Premier League supported the clubs decision on what they wanted to do, but Spurs & Villa released their Argentinian players to play in red list countries meaning they'll quarantine when they return and miss a game.
Times (print edition) reporting that they might miss 3 games if they play in all 3 of Argentina's fixtures.

There's a FIFA rule that will also ban players who declined national call up for 5 days after the international window. At least 2 of the Latin/South American countries are insisting FIFA enforces this rule on some Premier League clubs/players.

Anyone know what England's quarantine rules are, is it 10 days from when you arrive in UK, or 10 days after you departed the red country? I'm assuming Cote D'Ivoire is not a red country.

And, then there's the international break in October...

UTC

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Gordaleman » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:48 am

Can't see Cornet being involved at Everton. Covid protocols aside, Sean has already said that the first job will be to get him settled in and give him time to get used to us. Even the Arsenal game may be too soon. I think that the Rochdale game might be his first involvement.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:08 am

Can't see Cornet playing against Rochdale - he'll get kicked off the park.

Roberts at Right Back? If Lowton keeps his form, it won't be this season

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Mattster » Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:17 am

I'd just go

Pope

Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor

JBG Westwood Brownhill McNeil

Vydra Wood

Don't think there's enough time to implement a new formation or for Cornet to get up to speed if available. I'd just bring Vydra in for Barnes as we're more dynamic and a different prospect when he's playing - Keane and Mina aren't weak in the air so makes sense to go for a more mobile option too.

If Cornet is available it will be nice to have an impact player on the bench, him and Lennon bringing more pace against tired legs.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Mala591 » Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:35 am

I can see the team ‘evolving’ over the next few months to:

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Brownhill McNeil
Cornet Wood

Cornet should be coached to play right midfield (to cover JBG) and left/right forward to play alongside Wood.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:36 am

I'd go same team as played against Leeds

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Gordaleman » Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:59 am

Mala591 wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:35 am
I can see the team ‘evolving’ over the next few months to:

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Brownhill McNeil
Cornet Wood

Cornet should be coached to play right midfield (to cover JBG) and left/right forward to play alongside Wood.
I think Sean wants McNeil to play just behind Wood with Cornet on the right and JBG on the left. Certainly JBG spent a lot of time on the left against both Brighton and Leeds.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by box_of_frogs » Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:33 pm

bobinho wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:38 am
I’d take a gamble and have a look at him, blood him early so to speak,
I presume you mean bring him on in the 88th minute along with our other 1st change subs?

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Froobs » Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:59 pm

Cornet - will he be dyche fit?

If so him on 1 wing. Mcneil on the other
Vydra and wood up top

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Kevwando » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:03 pm

Just ask Local Cricketer :D

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:28 pm

I can't see many changes barring injuries for a few week.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:30 pm

it will be the same as against Leeds

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:28 am

Now we've all had a while longer to understand and digest our new signings how should we line up tmrw, and what's the bench likely to be. Although potentially only one of them in a position to start, it does give us several options imo, my guess is that it's in dyche's thoughts to move mcneil central in a no10 role, with Cornet on the left,or even swap throughout. And then given that cornet is said to be able to play left, right or central it also opens so many other options up. But then as we're all aware dyche will probably choose not to include cornet tmrw, and we could be more likely to see him v arsenal.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:33 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:04 am
Are you assuming Brownhill is injured ?
If he's not, I'd start him and have Cornet on the bench to be unleashed in spectacular fashion if and when required.
Perhaps in a similar way to Ade Akinbiyi? :D

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:36 am

8-)

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by bobinho » Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:44 am

I’ll stick my neck out here and suggest Cornet won’t see the grass….

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by taio » Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:45 am

jdrobbo wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:16 am
Pope

Lowton
Tarky
Mee
Taylor

JBG
Westwood
Cork
McNeil

Wood
Vydra
This would be my choice too.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:55 am

We all know the most likely line-up:
Barnes will start with Wood up front.
Toss up between Cork and Brownhill maybe

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by taio » Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:59 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:55 am
We all know the most likely line-up:
Barnes will start with Wood up front.
Toss up between Cork and Brownhill maybe
The thread is about who people would start if it was down to them, not predicting who Dyche will start.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by kazza » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:07 am

Pope
Lowton Tarky Mee Taylor
JBG Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Wood Vydra

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:17 am

taio wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:59 am
The thread is about who people would start if it was down to them, not predicting who Dyche will start.
Yep, and my starting 11 is:

Pope,
Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee, Taylor,
JBG, Brownhill, Westwood, McNeil,
Wood, Barnes

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:21 am

Iam going with Tony’s team utc

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by RVclaret » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:26 am

I’d start Vydra over Barnes but aside from that as it was against Leeds. It was Everton away last year where Vydra and Wood played well together and probably our performance of the season.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by Local cricketer » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:42 am

Should hopefully get the team later today

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:19 pm

Pope

Lowton
Tarky
Mee
Pieters

JBG
Westwood
Brownhill
McNeil

Wood
Vydra
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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by JohnMac » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:23 pm

Pope
Lawton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Cork McNeil
Vydra Wood

I would have Cornet on the bench if he is fit to play and introduce him once he has watched a bit of us in the flesh.

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Re: Your starting eleven vs Everton

Post by JohnMac » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:29 pm

*once he is fit to play..

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