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England v Andorra

Post by PadihamThickNeck » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:04 pm

5pm kick off live on ITV. First game back at Wembley since the final. Expecting full capacity.

Andorra who are ranked 134th in the world are a whopping ….. 100/1. Worth a quid surely ? :lol:

Should be pretty straight forward for the young lions, should technically be about 10-0 but with how Southgate sets up and the second string he’s putting out it will be about 4 or 5.

Predicted line-ups

England: Pickford; Alexander-Arnold, Stones, Mings, Trippier; Henderson, Bellingham; Saka, Mount, Lingard; Bamford

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by chekhov » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:09 pm

I’m waiting for your Andorra team prediction…

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Froobs » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:10 pm

Could be double figures but likely 2nd team will play
BAMFORD HATRICK ANYONE?

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:12 pm

Pope is starting tonight apparently

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by tiger76 » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:21 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:12 pm
Pope is starting tonight apparently
He certainly won't play Pickford, not with the trip to Poland in a few days. And Nick should still be 2nd cab on the rank. ;)

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by PadihamThickNeck » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:23 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:12 pm
Pope is starting tonight apparently
Be lucky to touch the ball more than 5 times.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Bosscat » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:27 pm

PadihamThickNeck wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:23 pm
Be lucky to touch the ball more than 5 times.
Good he should have less chance of injury then 🙂

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by IanMcL » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:16 pm

Being so tall, he can see the far end more easily than the other keepers.

Ideal choice!

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by kazza » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:19 pm

Seen 2 different predicted lineups, one is with Sterling starting, not Mount.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by burnmark » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:34 pm

Johnstone in goal. Pope on the bench.
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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:47 pm

so he's now picking players from the Championship. Waste of time for Pope to turn up

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:53 pm

Interesting selection.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by kazza » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:53 pm

I hope Johnstone has brought a good book with him. Probably picked for a bit of experience.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:56 pm

Waste of time sending Pope. He'll have more chance of getting injured with the bus crashing than playing, no point even sending him.

Sick of these bunch of England losers. I didn't watch the last game, won't watch this and probably won't again.

Getting fed up of football(ers) in general.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:56 pm

huge win for Wales, 2-3 away at Belarus, hat-trick for Bale with the winner coming in the 93rd minute

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Sheedyclaret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:57 pm

He's gone defensive against Andorra

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Les Lawrence » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:59 pm

Pope 3rd choice now **** off Southgate,

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by claretburns » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:04 pm

The squad numbers in the Hungary game when Pope was 22 indicated he wouldn't be the number 2.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by minnieclaret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:06 pm

Pope has done nothing to warrant starting for England so far this season.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:09 pm

I didn't realise Bamford was 28

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Les Lawrence » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:09 pm

Stop the yes man from coming to Turf Moor,Coady and Ming's in squad,no Tarkowski.Jonhstone before Pope,Tell the big nose bottler to do one next time,he wants a free ticket

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:21 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:12 pm
Pope is starting tonight apparently
Pope is not starting tonight apparently.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:22 pm

Picking Bamford for England is ridiculous.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:23 pm

Come on Les, you really need to show a bit more respect for out national head coach. He's doing a tremendous job and if he thinks Johnstone deserves to start then who are we to argue.

As an ex Burnley loanee lets hope Bamford does us proud and bags a load of goals
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Re: England v Andorra

Post by kazza » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:23 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:22 pm
Picking Bamford for England is ridiculous.
But at least Southgate is picking a player on form even though he plays for the one of the smaller clubs in the Prem.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by NewClaret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:25 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:23 pm
Come on Les, you really need to show a bit more respect for out national head coach. He's doing a tremendous job and if he thinks Johnstone deserves to start then who are we to argue.

As an ex Burnley loanee lets hope Bamford does us proud and bags a load of goals
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Stu » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:27 pm

Southgate Out

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:30 pm

I don’t really don’t get the Burnley hate of Southgate.

He is literally the most successful manager of the last 50 years.

Is it because some of our lads don’t get a look in?
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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:31 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:30 pm
I don’t really don’t get the Burnley hate of Southgate.

He is literally the most successful manager of the last 50 years.

Is it because some of our lads don’t get a look in?
It's no great mystery, some of our fans don't even like SD!

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by MDWat » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:39 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:30 pm
I don’t really don’t get the Burnley hate of Southgate.

He is literally the most successful manager of the last 50 years.

Is it because some of our lads don’t get a look in?
It’s because a complete tool. We’re playing 3 right backs in a back 5 against Andorra. He’s achieved nowt.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:42 pm

I've no issue with Bamford playing, but I can't fathom Johnstone. Southgate was very vocal about not picking Grealish because he was only playing in the Championship and yet he picks Johnstone.

The minute Ramsdale starts playing for Arsenal Pope wont get in the squad.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:43 pm

In the final, allowing a 19 year old take the last penalty did it for me.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by kazza » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:49 pm

So 4-3-3 it is. Trent playing in midfield with Henderson and Bellingham.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:52 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:43 pm
In the final, allowing a 19 year old take the last penalty did it for me.
Exactly.

You've only to look at our shoot-out win at Newcastle to realise that, in almost all cases, you get your most experienced players to take the penalties.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:53 pm

P.S hate international windows................boring

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:56 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:31 pm
It's no great mystery, some of our fans don't even like SD!
It's the Burnley way. Today I bumped into a neighbour while enjoying my Sunday morning walk. I mentioned the glorious sunny weather, and he replied it was all well and good, but would probably rain before the week was out.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by scouseclaret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:56 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:31 pm
It's no great mystery, some of our fans don't even like SD!
Aside from his overlooking of some of our finest, his record doesn’t bear scrutiny.

IMO his sole achievement of note is a tournament victory over Germany. Aside from that, he’s managed to look like the best England manager on the back of unbelievably friendly draws On every other occasion he’s come up against a decent side - Belgium, Italy, even Croatia in the World Cup - he’s been found wanting. He cost us the Euros with a combination of overly cautious tactics and some utterly bizarre decision making when the chips were down.

He is, I believe, a charlatan - albeit seemingly a lucky one.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by scouseclaret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:57 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:30 pm
I don’t really don’t get the Burnley hate of Southgate.

He is literally the most successful manager of the last 50 years.

Is it because some of our lads don’t get a look in?
Aside from his overlooking of some of our finest, his record doesn’t bear scrutiny.

IMO his sole achievement of note is a tournament victory over Germany. Aside from that, he’s managed to look like the best England manager on the back of unbelievably friendly draws On every other occasion he’s come up against a decent side - Belgium, Italy, even Croatia in the World Cup - he’s been found wanting. He cost us the Euros with a combination of overly cautious tactics and some utterly bizarre decision making when the chips were down.

He is, I believe, a charlatan - albeit seemingly a lucky one.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by yTib » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:58 pm

watching keane and wright pretending to be enthusiastic about this joke 'international' is slightly amusing.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by tiger76 » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:04 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:30 pm
I don’t really don’t get the Burnley hate of Southgate.

He is literally the most successful manager of the last 50 years.

Is it because some of our lads don’t get a look in?
Typical UTC hysteria GS led England to within a spot kick of winning the Euro's, and he's the 1st England manager to even take us to a EC final.

I've no real issues with him picking Johnstone if he feels the lad needs experience, and there's very few friendly matches now for managers to experiment and give players game time, so a home tie to Andorra is probably the nearest your going to get to being able to give fringe players a go.

And if GS did pick Pope, and he then returned injured, those exact same posters would still moan.

WC semi-final.

NL semi-final.

EC final.

No previous England manager has got anywhere near that type of sustained success, and yet some folks still aren't happy,

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:06 pm

A smug yes-man who said he would pick players on form and then does nothing of the sort.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:09 pm

Johnstone had a very assured game when he last played for England. Southgate has seen Pope play for England on numerous occasions now, he has given him 7 caps. I expect that Southgate doesn’t feel that Pope is totally compatible with England’s style of play and is exploring other options for his number two goalkeeper. To be honest I don’t really blame him for this.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:10 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:06 pm
A smug yes-man who said he would pick players on form and then does nothing of the sort.
I keep asking this but nobody has ever answered. In what way is Southgate a yes man?

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:13 pm

I wonder how much Man City will offer Dortmund for Bellingham

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:14 pm

Have the ‘fans’ been booing the Andorran national anthem and every time an opponent touches the ball? I can’t bear to watch it.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by tiger76 » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:20 pm

1-0 England Lingard, great play by Saka to set him up.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:24 pm

anyone know why Ings wasn't called up ?

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by kazza » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:25 pm

Bellingham looking very good.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:31 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:09 pm
Johnstone had a very assured game when he last played for England. Southgate has seen Pope play for England on numerous occasions now, he has given him 7 caps. I expect that Southgate doesn’t feel that Pope is totally compatible with England’s style of play and is exploring other options for his number two goalkeeper. To be honest I don’t really blame him for this.
He didn't like that pass.

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Re: England v Andorra

Post by kazza » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:33 pm

Henderson also playing very well.

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