Ryan Christie reason for not coming to Burnley

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:08 am

He wanted a clause in his contract to allow him to leave at the end of this season for a fixed fee if we were relegated. Bournemouth paying less wages than we offered.

Suratclaret · Post by **Suratclaret** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:14 am

So has he got a similar clause in his contract with Bournemouth allowing him to leave for a fixed fee if they aren't promoted?
He's happy with less wages playing in an inferior league just in case Burnley are relegated or am I missing something?

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:16 am

I wonder what the fee would have been

Clubs are happy to have relegation clauses, but won't let players.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:27 am

Suratclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:14 am
So has he got a similar clause in his contract with Bournemouth allowing him to leave for a fixed fee if they aren't promoted?
He's happy with less wages playing in an inferior league just in case Burnley are relegated or am I missing something?

Seems to me he didn't fancy the PL. Anyone who cannot feel comfortable in playing in THE PL, is probably not the type of player we are looking for.As it stands Bournemouth are not one of my favourites to go up

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:36 am

Seems a daftie.

He didn't come to the Premier league in case he had to go the championship. So he went to the Championship instead?

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:39 am

Anyone think cornet hasn't got a similar agreement?

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:41 am

To be honest I don't believe the the statement the OP has said. It makes zero sense as a few have already said. It's more likely got to do with playing time and position. It may even have to do with the manager he's playing under but the release clause idea doesn't sound right.

Froobs · Post by **Froobs** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:42 am

bf2k wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:41 am
To be honest I don't believe the the statement the OP has said. It makes zero sense as a few have already said. It's more likely got to do with playing time and position. It may even have to do with the manager he's playing under but the release clause idea doesn't sound right.

Me neither

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:46 am

TheOriginalLongsider wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:08 am
He wanted a clause in his contract to allow him to leave at the end of this season for a fixed fee if we were relegated. Bournemouth paying less wages than we offered.

Where have you heard this please?

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:47 am

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:46 am
Where have you heard this please?

I read it in the press yesterday.

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:53 am

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/furth ... nd-celtic/

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:00 am

Relegation release clauses are very normal. It just means he would have the chance to leave for x amount if a bid comes in after we get relegated.

He'll probably have a set release clause at Bournemouth.

BTW this is all agents doing, what a mess it's become.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:04 am

Thanks. Not ideal for us to have players with contract clauses like that, particularly considering the difficulties we face signing players. I suspect Dyche would be more than happy to give a player with this mindset a miss too.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:09 am

Clubs are more than happy to insert relegation clauses, quite rightly. If the player doesn't like it, don't sign.
Players should have the same option, if the club don't like it, don't sign

jackmiggins · Post by **jackmiggins** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:13 am

Has looked underwhelming when I’ve seen him. Can’t quite understand the interest in him on this board?

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:27 am

TheOriginalLongsider wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:53 am
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/furth ... nd-celtic/

That article doesn’t actually say why he chose Bournemouth over Burnley.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:27 am

It's a funny old business where the employee is setting the terms of his contract.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:29 am

Assuming it’s true then it seems to be a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face!

‘I’ll only come and play with you if you’ll let me leave for £x if you get relegated as I don’t want to end up in the Championship’

‘No we can’t let that happen at that price’

‘Right then! I’ll go and play in the Championship for a lower wage, that’ll show you!’

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:32 am

Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:27 am
That article doesn’t actually say why he chose Bournemouth over Burnley.

It was nixon in the paper yesterday that did

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:32 am

He's entitled to ask what he wants, to me he comes across as a boat rocker. I'd have been happy to sign him, but not devastated that we didn't.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:33 am

Irrespective of the details of his contract he clearly wanted to player for Bournemouth over us for a range of reasons. Fair play to him.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:47 am

I also suspect there’s more to it than we have been fed.

My money is on him wanting to be guaranteed playing time, in which case, fair enough. I’d want to play too. He will have done his homework and be fully aware how hard it is to usurp a current player and get into the starting line up.

AfloatinClaret · Post by **AfloatinClaret** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:07 am

I too suspect that 'there’s more to it than we have been fed.'

The relegation clause story might've held water if he'd signed for Norwich or Watford over us, but not when joining a side already in the Championship. I suspect that the lad might be looking toward his next contract rather than this, insofar as he thinks he can get more exposure/game time and showcase himself better with Bournemouth in the Championship in the hope that in a year or two's time, the 'big' club will make him an offer; that's ambition, so good luck to him.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:14 am

TheOriginalLongsider wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:08 am
He wanted a clause in his contract to allow him to leave at the end of this season for a fixed fee if we were relegated. Bournemouth paying less wages than we offered.

Reported yesterday by Nixon, but you would suspect that his agent was behind that. Strange on to be honest.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:23 am

Funny how the people who refuse to read the sun, still see everything nixon reports

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:25 am

Grumps wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:23 am
Funny how the people who refuse to read the sun, still see everything nixon reports

As per the link above other media sources have quoted the Sun.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:36 am

bobinho wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:47 am
I also suspect there’s more to it than we have been fed.

My money is on him wanting to be guaranteed playing time, in which case, fair enough. I’d want to play too. He will have done his homework and be fully aware how hard it is to usurp a current player and get into the starting line up.

Interesting but highly unlikely.

Lads who attain these levels in ultra competitive sport get there via massive self-confidence and backing themselves every step of the way.

Pontificating is fine but it'll be brass behind his choice.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:25 am

Didn’t Tripps have a release clause with us as well?

Basically the same thing.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:27 am

Socrates wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:25 am
Didn’t Tripps have a release clause with us as well?

Basically the same thing.

I think Jay also had some sort of agreement when he was first here that if we didn't get promoted that season we'd sell him.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:27 am

Socrates wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:25 am
Didn’t Tripps have a release clause with us as well?

Basically the same thing.

He only signed a new contract because of it, yes

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:29 am

Socrates wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:25 am
Didn’t Tripps have a release clause with us as well?

Basically the same thing.

He signed a contract extension with a clause in it, otherwise he wouldn’t have stayed an extra year, if my memory serves me right.

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:16 pm

I don’t think there is a problem with a release clause but it depends on what price was stipulated. E.g £1 million or £21 million.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:21 pm

To be fair, the championship is a big step up from the SPL, he no doubt felt the PL was a bridge too far for him.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:03 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:29 am
Assuming it’s true then it seems to be a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face!

‘I’ll only come and play with you if you’ll let me leave for £x if you get relegated as I don’t want to end up in the Championship’

‘No we can’t let that happen at that price’

‘Right then! I’ll go and play in the Championship for a lower wage, that’ll show you!’

Playing devils advocate, he probably thought he was going to be benched for the season and given sporadic game time at best given we don't play a ten usually and we seem unable to change formation during games. Its a shame though as he looks a decent player but i can understand he wants to play and Dyche has a rep of not playing new signings until way after they sign, sometimes never! Hope this changes with Cornet though.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:09 pm

Seems odd that he's prepared to play a full season in the Championship for Bournemouth - who could not bounce back at the first attempt last year - but would not risk playing one season for use if we went down.

If it is true, I think we made the right call standing up to a player/agent that wanted a clause that was not in our best interests and would presumably put him on different terms than the rest of the group.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:22 pm

I don't care.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:42 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:27 am
It's a funny old business where the employee is setting the terms of his contract.

Well footballers certainly do seem to get away with behaviour the rest of us wouldn't in our jobs.

A case in point being Harry Kane effectively downing tools for Spurs to try and force through a move to City, if you or I were to behave in that manner in our workplace, you can bet you bottom dollar we'd be hauled up before a HR panel PDQ.

Yet these players get away with such behaviour, mainly because quite rightly their clubs view them as multi million pound assets, which like it or not they are.

Hence why Burnley shoved Gibson out on loan after his antics, so we could put him in the shop window, or as ultimately transpired Norwich won promotion, and were then committed to signing him permanently for a good fee.

Regarding Christie if he wasn't 100% committed to Burnley, then he's no great loss, SD correctly only wants lads who'll bust a gut for the club, and just maybe some of the reports about Christie's attitude do have merit after all.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:56 pm

Nothing about this explanation makes sense.

RMutt · Post by **RMutt** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:01 pm

Rowls wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:56 pm
Nothing about this explanation makes sense.

Sun articles rarely do.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:10 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:27 am
It's a funny old business where the employee is setting the terms of his contract.

not really, happens in most businesses one you hire people of a certain level

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:16 pm

I think it's more to do with the style of play and formation we play, from what I've seen Christie isn't the best in the air and he's not a striker in a 442. He certainly can't play central midfield in a 442 either. I wanted Barkley here but again, he probably wouldn't fit in the system either. It's a very specific to play in a Dyche 442, if we switched to 4411 the player behind the striker would need to win headers, work their ass off and expect little of the ball to feet, it was more of a donkey role when Hendrick played, running his knackers off for little individual reward and few touches.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:49 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:10 pm
not really, happens in most businesses one you hire people of a certain level

Fair enough.
I don't move in these high-flying circles

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:38 pm

I watched the games specially to watch Christie and the boy Jack playing in Belgium league, since both had been linked with BFC

It's only one game but I had never seen either play before, so thoughts are just based on that and not a firm opinion and could easily be changed.

I really didn't see anything from Christie but the boy Jack had a few nice touches and of the two for just this game he would have been the one I would have preferred.