Relegation fodder

[kazza]

If you can't win while playing well, when are you gonna win?

Did we play well? If you create plenty of chances but draw, then you're a team that knows they are creating enough chances and on another day it will fall for you and you'll get the points.

[taio]

Let's be honest Krul didn't have a save to make. That's a concern.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Did we play well? If you create plenty of chances but draw, then you're a team that knows they are creating enough chances and on another day it will fall for you and you'll get the points.

Norwich actually had a better Xgsc than us today

[Gp8419]

Same old morons whinging again most of you (not all) are a bunch of idiots who have not got a clue! Go snd watch someone else simple! We have been decent for large parts this year our luck will turn, not getting the luck at the minute that’s all.we are Burnley we will always have to battle get to the emptihad if you want to see champagne football.

[KRBFC]

Did we play well? If you create plenty of chances but draw, then you're a team that knows they are creating enough chances and on another day it will fall for you and you'll get the points.

You were referencing previous games and said ''we've drawn games we should've won''. Not winning while playing well is a sign of a bad side, if you can't win while playing well you're in all kinds of trouble at this level.

creating plenty of chances? I couldn't think of one clear cut opening we created today. It's been 4 wins in 27 games, how long are we gonna keep praying ''it falls for us and we get the points''?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Same old morons whinging again most of you (not all) are a bunch of idiots who have not got a clue! Go snd watch someone else simple! We have been decent for large parts this year our luck will turn, not getting the luck at the minute that’s all.we are Burnley we will always have to battle get to the emptihad if you want to see champagne football.

Fortunately for you a lot of our fans base already have

[kazza]

You were referencing previous games and said ''we've drawn games we should've won''. Not winning while playing well is a sign of a bad side, if you can't win while playing well you're in all kinds of trouble at this level.

creating plenty of chances? I couldn't think of one clear cut opening we created today. It's been 4 wins in 27 games, how long are we gonna keep praying ''it falls for us and we get the points''?

I'm bored already. Take it easy.

[KRBFC]

I'm bored already. Take it easy.

Did Krul even make a single save apart from the speculative Mcneil effort? You can keep wishing and praying, the facts are the facts.

[Wembley09]

People that say it was dreadful, wow. Give me this anyday over the days of the 18 games without a win under Steve Coterrill in the Championship.

You can't just click your fingers and say we should beat them against anyteam in the PL, unless you're one of the big boys.

[kazza]

Did Krul even make a single save apart from the speculative Mcneil effort? You can keep wishing and praying, the facts are the facts.

Okay.

[JohnDearyMe]

I thought we had a decent transfer window. We just need Roberts and Cornet back fit.

Time for Cork to be brought back in too?

[Bordeauxclaret]

Time for Cork to be brought back in too?

Yes, I’ve been saying this for a while.
I still think he’s our best central midfielder.

[kazza]

Time for Cork to be brought back in too?

Quite possibly, but I don't think there's much between them. I do think that Cornet improves us significantly and most of us know that, even though he's not played that much for us. You just know. Now whether Sean will consider putting McNeil in central midfield, I've no idea, but we look so much better with Vydra and Cornet in the side.

[AlargeClaret]

People talking about Ben Mee returning like it’s some heroic homecoming hero . He wouldn’t get a game at any other prem club , he’s slow , past his best ,awful distribution and far too many mistakes . People should drop this claret tinted whimsy . Yes Cornet to come back , Roberts also interesting and a hopefully fully a fit squad does lead to general optimism . The seasons gonna be a battle but one good midfield signing and holding our own by Xmas could see us prevail

[claret2018]

ask, sheff utd, Derby, forest fans if they would rather be in championship, if we go down and lose a few players, why would you think its enjoyable and we would be up near the top.

Because we can no longer compete at this level

[bfcjg]

Same old morons whinging again most of you (not all) are a bunch of idiots who have not got a clue! Go snd watch someone else simple! We have been decent for large parts this year our luck will turn, not getting the luck at the minute that’s all.we are Burnley we will always have to battle get to the emptihad if you want to see champagne football.

Prose that Dickens or Shakespeare would be proud of.

[BOYSIE31]

Why would you want Dyche to leave and who would you have wanted in his place?

Should have parted company in the summer

[snapcrackleandpop]

People talking about Ben Mee returning like it’s some heroic homecoming hero . He wouldn’t get a game at any other prem club , he’s slow , past his best ,awful distribution and far too many mistakes . People should drop this claret tinted whimsy . Yes Cornet to come back , Roberts also interesting and a hopefully fully a fit squad does lead to general optimism . The seasons gonna be a battle but one good midfield signing and holding our own by Xmas could see us prevail

[kazza]

Should have parted company in the summer

Who would you replace him with?

[snapcrackleandpop]

Absolutely agree

[gandhisflipflop]

Who would you replace him with?

Bob Bradley

[alf_resco]

People that say it was dreadful, wow. Give me this anyday over the days of the 18 games without a win under Steve Coterrill in the Championship.

Wow, it was dreadful. Like nearly every game for a loooooong time now.
I live nearly 150 miles from Burnley and bothering to go to a home match costs me nearly £100 plus 6 hours driving, alone, on the M6 (if I'm lucky).
If I'm going to see good football and be entertained, I can put up with all that.
It's not been watchable for ages, so being fairly normal, and having a life (and grandkids) beyond Turf Moor, I can find lots more rewarding things to do with my time snd money.
I know quite a few other exiles who are similarly inclined.

And yes, imo we currently are relegation fodder.

[kazza]

Bob Bradley

The guy who had an 18% win at his time at Swansea. Yes, he shouts out better than Dyche.

[MT03ALG]

On that showing the Premier League, especially the Premier League Officials, would be delighted if Burnley are relegated.

[barrowclaret]

I'm of the opinion that the players are far better than the system Mr Dyche uses allows them to be. When Cornet played at Leicester the whole team played with a chuckle in their boots and the team dominated against a top team. The players need to be allowed to play to their potential. 4th from the bottom and bonuses all round shouldn't dictate everything.

[Jakubclaret]

Should have parted company in the summer

Could have talked BFS into the position when he left West Brom, I want Sean to stay but he’d be an ideal replacement if he agreed to the job & pace wanted him.

[gandhisflipflop]

The guy who had an 18% win at his time at Swansea. Yes, he shouts out better than Dyche.

My post was sort of tongue in cheek really as

1. Whoever is suggested, you have already made your mind up that nobody would do a better job than Dyche

2. For the reason above it is a pointless question

3. It’s not a fans job to suggest replacements, it’s the job of the board.

FWIW, I would like to see Wilder have a go at some point. But I’m sure the board will have a good idea who could take the club forward, just like when Dyche was appointed against many fans wishes in 2013.

[bfcjg]

We have gone backwards tactically and more worryingly fitness wise. The manager has gone stale and that is reflected on the pitch.

[Somethingfishy]

ask, sheff utd, Derby, forest fans if they would rather be in championship, if we go down and lose a few players, why would you think its enjoyable and we would be up near the top.

Where have all the "We would walk the Championship" brigade suddenly gone? I posted a few weeks back saying that we wouldn't or at least it would be far from a cakewalk if we were to go down with this squad and was jumped on by the happy clappers and people nothing short of short sighted and deluded. The truth being half this squad wouldn't be here anyway and we would have to reinvest.

Look at the team that came up and this one. The team that got us up would beat this current team 9 times out of 10. More fight, more bite, and players that knew where the net was. We have ended up going backwards through lack of investment. Not only that but because of the limited funds we have bought players that are/were simply not good enough to advance us just to fill the squad.

Cornet looks like the standard we should have been aiming at..Roberts too perhaps but it looks like it may be too late.

[kazza]

My post was sort of tongue in cheek really as

1. Whoever is suggested, you have already made your mind up that nobody would do a better job than Dyche

2. For the reason above it is a pointless question

3. It’s not a fans job to suggest replacements, it’s the job of the board.

FWIW, I would like to see Wilder have a go at some point. But I’m sure the board will have a good idea who could take the club forward, just like when Dyche was appointed against many fans wishes in 2013.

Wilder isn't a bad shout - but it sounds like he'd need a better board than what he had at SU. But Dyche has signed a 4 year contract. It's a pointless discussion and we need to stick by him.

If we did go down, would you want anybody else to bring us back up? He's proved that he can do it, so it would be stupid to replace him even if we went down.

[buzzclarets79]

Same old morons whinging again most of you (not all) are a bunch of idiots who have not got a clue! Go snd watch someone else simple! We have been decent for large parts this year our luck will turn, not getting the luck at the minute that’s all.we are Burnley we will always have to battle get to the emptihad if you want to see champagne football.

And when we drop to the championship and won’t have a pot to pi** in with attendances of 10,000 you’ll be wanting these same old morons to attend.

The worst home record in history, can’t even beat Norwich, a team that’s lost all previous matches, -14 goal difference already at this stage, we never looked like scoring. Same old boring Dyche tactics.

[boatshed bill]

Should have parted company in the summer

Not sure about that, but I am certain that a 4 year contract was far too long.
FWIW I think Sean Dyche's best work for Burnley FC is behind him, but wait and see!

[houseboy]

I fancied us today, I can’t see us beating another Premier League team now if we can’t beat Norwich. They were out of their depth. Improvements needed in all positions to stay in this division. Nice while it lasted

So let’s get this straight.. you genuinely believe we aren’t going to win a game all season? That has never happened to anyone.
FFS some of you get a grip. We always start bad (and have started worse than this) but you have short memories. Cornet is class and will be back next game. Wood has proved time and again he is a PL class striker. We haven’t played badly in most of our games. Today was disappointing yes but to write us off after 7 games when most of the time we have performed pretty well shows how poor some of our support is.
I genuinely believe a section of our support are masochists who just want the worst for something to moan about. I said it last season to all the negatives on here and I was right and I’ll say it again…we will not go down.

[jojomk1]

We have gone backwards tactically and more worryingly fitness wise. The manager has gone stale and that is reflected on the pitch.

Not sure you can go back tactically when you only have one plan in the first place

As for fitness, the majority of the squad are now way past their best potential from a physical performance point of view - it's just what comes with an ageing squad

The manager does look to have gone stale in all aspects of managing at this level

[kazza]

Not sure you can go back tactically when you only have one plan in the first place

As for fitness, the majority of the squad are now way past their best potential from a physical performance point of view - it's just what comes with an ageing squad

The manager does look to have gone stale in all aspects of managing at this level

It looks to me like the transfer window needs another chapter, and we need 1-2 players in Jan. But according to a poll, over 70% were happy with the transfer window. Now I know Burnley fans are fickle but feck me, make your minds up.

[boatshed bill]

Not sure you can go back tactically when you only have one plan in the first place

As for fitness, the majority of the squad are now way past their best potential from a physical performance point of view - it's just what comes with an ageing squad

The manager does look to have gone stale in all aspects of managing at this level

Agree with this.

I think we've been found out by just about every coach/manager in the PL now.
We need Cornet and Roberts to come in and we need to freshen up tactically.

[kazza]

Agree with this.

I think we've been found out by just about every coach/manager in the PL now.
We need Cornet and Roberts to come in and we need to freshen up tactically.

How many seasons have we spent in the Prem... is this something like the 6th or 7th season?

As much as I think you're a nice guy, "I think we've been found out by just about every coach/manager in the PL now" screams out as crap. Absolute crap.

Watch the first half vs Leicester. We had Cornet and we more than matched them. In fact, we were better than them. Sure, a lot of football fans don't have a clue, but gut instincts... Cornet changed us completely.

[Darnhill Claret]

Well compared to last season at the same stage, we have 50% more points, so 40 points will be easily accomplished.

[Vino blanco]

And last season we won away at Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal and Wolves.....12 massive points we won’t have this season.

[boatshed bill]

How many seasons have we spent in the Prem... is this something like the 6th or 7th season?

As much as I think you're a nice guy, "I think we've been found out by just about every coach/manager in the PL now" screams out as crap. Absolute crap.

Watch the first half vs Leicester. We had Cornet and we more than matched them. In fact, we were better than them. Sure, a lot of football fans don't have a clue, but gut instincts... Cornet changed us completely.

You kind of make my point with reference to Cornet (and possibly Roberts)
You only have to watch how teams defend against our regular first 11 to see they know how to shut us out, and the better teams know how to find our weaknesses.

BTW, you may think I'm a nice bloke but actually I'm a bit of a ****!

[kazza]

You kind of make my point with reference to Cornet (and possibly Roberts)
You only have to watch how teams defend against our regular first 11 to see they know how to shut us out, and the better teams know how to find our weaknesses.

BTW, you may think I'm a nice bloke but actually I'm a bit of a ****!

If you were a "bit of a ****" I'd tell you. I can spot them a mile off

[boatshed bill]

If you were a "bit of a ****" I'd tell you. I can spot them a mile off

To be fair, I think we need a bit of a shake-up, both in terms of SD's 1st 11 and tactics. Then we may stand a chance of surviving.
Great that Collins had a good debut today.

[kazza]

To be fair, I think we need a bit of a shake-up, both in terms of SD's 1st 11 and tactics. Then we may stand a chance of surviving.
Great that Collins had a good debut today.

Yeah good that we can survive without Mee. I'm really not panicking, we'll be ok.

[diamondpocket]

Of course we are relegation fodder. Our only tactic is to get it wide for Chaz to throw in crap crosses! Just watch back most of our plays in midfield in the 2nd half today. When they got the ball or when Dwight drifted in, they all just went sideways, sidewys, sideways!! It's the only thing we do, get it wide and lump a ball in, whether it be Chaz, Dwight or Lowts. Norwich put 3 centre halves there and mopped everything up, **** easy, dinosaur tactics and style of play. How a manager can get a 4 year contract after a torrid 18 months and no win at home in, I've lost count how many games, is beyond belief. Even if we do miraculously stay up this year, it's time for someone new because he ain't gonna change, it's just the tried & tested, dull & duller and the crowds are showing that. I don't buy this COVID fear. 18 months away from live football & getting back on should have had every fan chomping at the bit meeting up with acquaintances, friends, having a beer and enjoying the atmosphere. Instead, it's crap football with players going through the motions, hugely disappointing.

[bfcjg]

Worrying thing is though Dyche has had basically the same game plan in his entire tenure here.
I really rate him and he's been the best manager in.my lifetime but things change teams progress but I really think we have been well and truly found out andxsussed. Hopefully a fully fit Vidra Cornet and Robert's will change things for the better plus a dynamic midfielder but will better players want to come to a relegation threatened team or one that is perceived possibly correctly as one dimensional?.

[Iloveyoubrady]

This time last year, we had played easier games and had less points. We had also played very badly. This year, we have played well against a lot of good opponents (Norwich excluded) but haven’t quite picked up points. Last year something clicked for us, we then went on to pick up points with ease, despite often playing badly. I’m not losing hope just yet. We have always struggled to break down sides like Norwich today, it just doesn’t suit our style of play. We ended up playing alright without creating anything. Poor crossing and fine margins. The one thing I do find strange is our tactical decision to have our wingers tuck in narrow and full backs wide. When we are crossing it so much, get the wingers out there to create a 2 on 1 with the full back.

[Targetman]

Get us down to the championship asap. Would be far more enjoyable

You admitted that you dont go to games??

[warksclaret]

Sadly too many on here think because we have turned it round during the last 5-6 seasons and put a run together that we can continue to do that again and we "will be alright". I think its time to make some minor changes. Never advocated this before but I think Pieters should come in for a few games for Taylor who is getting caught out with the opposition going wide on him and him letting high cross balls get to these players (I think a few goals have come from his side this season). Lennon or JBG just are not good enough to be playing PL football. Hopefully Cornet and Roberts getting fit should prevent this happening again

[AlargeClaret]

We played with a real lack of confidence and I was amazed at the constant poor long ball in, thankless task for Wood/Jay .
McNeil constantly flatters to deceive and is very one footed . His best work is with Taylor, whom gets stick for his crossing but 1st time I’ve ever seen him sky one in the stand tbh. He’s a good defender and gets to the byline very well indeed and can deliver a cross, though admittedly rarely great accuracy . Miles better than Lowton though .We’ll need Cornet firing and hopefully Roberts will slot in .

[randomclaret2]

We are certainly looking it right now. And so important supporters get behind Dyche and the players.

The fans got behind the team well yesterday...