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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:55 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:39 pm
Such a negative thread and so early in the season.
It's normal though for here.
I was reading last year's one recently and that was amusing.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by LoveCurryPies » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:09 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:55 pm
It's normal though for here.
I was reading last year's one recently and that was amusing.
I’m guessing the same people write the same rubbish every year. It’s a reflection of their own lives.

Our players have a huge spirit and determination to not let let the manager down. People forget to include that in their prediction of the new season. UTC!
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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Spijed » Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:22 pm

Btw, I've read the tea leaves and it'll be Norwich, Brentford & Leeds to be relegated ;)

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by brexit » Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:25 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:22 pm
Btw, I've read the tea leaves and it'll be Norwich, Brentford & Leeds to be relegated ;)
Leeds - please

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:25 pm

And after another round of games, we are still only a game away from getting out of the bottom three, after another positive result

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:19 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:55 pm
It's normal though for here.
I was reading last year's one recently and that was amusing.
I’m usually THE most negative person regarding us, relegation, Dyche, anti football, etc.

But I’m really chill atm because we’re scoring goals, getting in front, and have lost, what is it, 1 in 7, and that was City.

I’m actually pretty surprised about how relaxed I am!

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:01 am

I can see where the hysteria comes from but a cool head should calm that down.

We could easily be 8 points higher due to things in the last few minutes of games (even ignoring other games where leads have been squandered like BHA and Everton).

Vydra’s chances against Chelsea and (the better chance) Palace. Vardy and Bamford equalising late on. OK, you may say that’s football but other games could have gone our way (e.g. the sitters and penalties not given against Brighton which would have put us miles ahead).

So I tend to view us as a mid table team with a few things to tighten up that have lost us points. Things may yet go wrong but unless we have injuries I’m not seeing it.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:16 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:01 am
I can see where the hysteria comes from but a cool head should calm that down.

We could easily be 8 points higher due to things in the last few minutes of games (even ignoring other games where leads have been squandered like BHA and Everton).

Vydra’s chances against Chelsea and (the better chance) Palace. Vardy and Bamford equalising late on. OK, you may say that’s football but other games could have gone our way (e.g. the sitters and penalties not given against Brighton which would have put us miles ahead).

So I tend to view us as a mid table team with a few things to tighten up that have lost us points. Things may yet go wrong but unless we have injuries I’m not seeing it.
Everybody throughout the league will say the same, our opponents could say they should be better off without conceding in the dying seconds against Brighton & arsenal & the Newcastle goal getting chalked out for man handling grappling in the box, every team will have some sort of grievance or a sense of injustice things haven't gone their way, we are where we are for a reason & everybody else is in the league.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:25 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:01 am
I can see where the hysteria comes from but a cool head should calm that down.

We could easily be 8 points higher due to things in the last few minutes of games (even ignoring other games where leads have been squandered like BHA and Everton).

Vydra’s chances against Chelsea and (the better chance) Palace. Vardy and Bamford equalising late on. OK, you may say that’s football but other games could have gone our way (e.g. the sitters and penalties not given against Brighton which would have put us miles ahead).

So I tend to view us as a mid table team with a few things to tighten up that have lost us points. Things may yet go wrong but unless we have injuries I’m not seeing it.
Our form in 2021 is why we are relegation fodder.

It’s up to Dyche to turn it around and quickly

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Rombald » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:36 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:25 am
Our form in 2021 is why we are relegation fodder.

It’s up to Dyche to turn it around and quickly

1 defeat in 7....

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:50 am

Rombald wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:36 am
1 defeat in 7....
9 points from 12 games. 1 win.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Spijed » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:58 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:16 am
Everybody throughout the league will say the same, our opponents could say they should be better off without conceding in the dying seconds against Brighton & arsenal & the Newcastle goal getting chalked out for man handling grappling in the box, every team will have some sort of grievance or a sense of injustice things haven't gone their way, we are where we are for a reason & everybody else is in the league.
Indeed we are but why have you said the likes of Leeds won't get relegated, despite them being in serious trouble?

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:59 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:58 am
Indeed we are but why have you said the likes of Leeds won't get relegated, despite them being in serious trouble?
Leeds have got numerous injuries at the moment with a number of there best players out.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Rombald » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:02 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:50 am
9 points from 12 games. 1 win.
We can play this game for ages. I'll stay focused on the positives thanks.
Continually being negative must be so tiring

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Spijed » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:02 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:59 am
Leeds have got numerous injuries at the moment with a number of there best players out.
So down to poor squad depth then?

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:08 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:58 am
Indeed we are but why have you said the likes of Leeds won't get relegated, despite them being in serious trouble?
Because they'll improve players will be coming back for them to strengthen.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:08 am

The way Leeds play relies on the other teams not matching their work rate and not picking the huge gaps that such an attacking style leaves.

I'm not saying they will get relegated, but they will get absolutely thumped by the really good sides and might struggle to break down the sides that are not as good as them

And with the league table as it is, no one is down, and no one from Palace down is safe

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:26 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:02 am
So down to poor squad depth then?
Leeds can & will go up a gear when everybody's fit & firing, we are at full strength & still lagging.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Karhu_Claret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:42 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:50 am
9 points from 12 games. 1 win.
6 points from 4 games. 1 win. No losses. You talk as if we're getting battered every game, even though it's evident that we've become bloody hard to beat. We're 13th in the form tables over the last 6 games yet you talk about Dyche having to turn things round. I'd suggest that he has already.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:48 am

Karhu_Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:42 am
6 points from 4 games. 1 win. No losses. You talk as if we're getting battered every game, even though it's evident that we've become bloody hard to beat. We're 13th in the form tables over the last 6 games yet you talk about Dyche having to turn things round. I'd suggest that he has already.
I think he’s done well recently but it’s over a short spell. We are no closer to getting out of the relegation zone. Dyche needs to maintain this form for a while to keep us up.

Form this calendar year has been horrendous

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Spijed » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:52 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:26 am
Leeds can & will go up a gear when everybody's fit & firing, we are at full strength & still lagging.
Let's hope supporters and those involved with Leeds think the same as that'll be excellent news for us.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:55 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:52 am
Let's hope supporters and those involved with Leeds think the same as that'll be excellent news for us.
How would it be excellent news for us if our closest relegation rival performed better when there best players return?

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Spijed » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:03 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:55 am
How would it be excellent news for us if our closest relegation rival performed better when there best players return?
Because it's the arrogant thinking that all they need to do is wait for is the cavalry to turn up and they will be safe without any problems.

Football never has, nor ever does turn out that way.

I'm not saying Leeds won't be safe, but the belief that all they have to do is wait for the best players to return is never that simple.

Bamford might start banging the goals in, but like any team under pressure they'll have to play a different way to last season if they drop into the bottom 3.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:21 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:25 am
Our form in 2021 is why we are relegation fodder.

It’s up to Dyche to turn it around and quickly
Why have you recently switched to talking about our form for the calender year?

Don't you realise most of us aren't fussed about the end of last season, it's over with?

We're only bothered about this season
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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Spijed » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:52 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:21 am
Why have you recently switched to talking about our form for the calender year?

Don't you realise most of us aren't fussed about the end of last season, it's over with?

We're only bothered about this season
In the last couple of seasons we've had poor starts but then started to gain a bit of momentum. Since our current good run of one defeat in seven, we're doing ok. Obviously not great but good enough at the moment.
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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:49 pm

A very good performance at Chelsea followed up by a good performance v Palice .
Just get Connor on for at least half an hour and we are on a roll.
We are not going down and with a raid for Lawrence at Derby and Swift at Reading in January we will have an even better team

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by KRBFC » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:09 pm

We haven't been playing badly and still haven't been winning games, worrying sign. I think the league is really strong this year too, aside from Norwich (and even they've won 2 in a row) I don't see another clear choice for relegation.

Newcastle investment, Norwich new manager bounce, Leeds with star players to return. Cornet will be a huge miss for us over a busy period. I still think we've left ourselves severely lacking quality in key areas which will likely cost us our PL place this season. It could have been so different if we'd have signed a central midfielder and potentially an attacking midfielder/striker.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by ecc » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:32 pm

Born pessimist but I'm focusing on these stats:

First five games: one point

Last seven games: eight points.
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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Spijed » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:36 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:09 pm
I think the league is really strong this year too.
That line gets trotted out season after season after season.

Without fail.

What about Brentford?

They looked hopeless against us.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:19 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:36 pm
That line gets trotted out season after season after season.

Without fail.

What about Brentford?

They looked hopeless against us.
You mean the Brentford that are four points above us and have won triple the amount of games?

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:36 pm

I'm not concerned either way, if we drop Dyche will remain in charge and if the signing of Cornet is a sign of the new owners intent in terms of quality then a rebuild could be very exciting (on a lower budge of course). Hopefully they have one or two lined up for January to help us remain at the top table.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:40 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:36 pm
I'm not concerned either way, if we drop Dyche will remain in charge and if the signing of Cornet is a sign of the new owners intent in terms of quality then a rebuild could be very exciting (on a lower budge of course). Hopefully they have one or two lined up for January to help us remain at the top table.
Nixon said we might have a couple of loans lined up
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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by BabylonClaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:44 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:19 pm
You mean the Brentford that are four points above us and have won triple the amount of games?
Yeah we did pretty well in 2009/10 .... at first
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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Spijed » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:48 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:19 pm
You mean the Brentford that are four points above us and have won triple the amount of games?
The point is, they are on a very poor run of form. one point from five, like we were at the start of the season.

The way they'd started the season I thought they were this seasons Sheff United. They may well turn it round, but we'll see. That's why I think we'll finish above them.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:50 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:36 pm
I'm not concerned either way, if we drop Dyche will remain in charge and if the signing of Cornet is a sign of the new owners intent in terms of quality then a rebuild could be very exciting (on a lower budge of course). Hopefully they have one or two lined up for January to help us remain at the top table.
If we drop more likely Dyche will get a better offer and may be gone of his own volition

If we drop more likely that Cornet will be gone - at least at a profit

A good window in Jan is essential

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by KRBFC » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:13 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:36 pm
That line gets trotted out season after season after season.

Without fail.

What about Brentford?

They looked hopeless against us.
They will get more points than any of the bottom 3 last year.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by tiger76 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:41 pm

ecc wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:32 pm
Born pessimist but I'm focusing on these stats:

First five games: one point

Last seven games: eight points.
Exactly and 2 of those 7 were away to City & Chelsea, and in the matches against those around us we've generally done ok, Everton are the lowest team we've lost to and they sit 11th, as ever the results in the key head-to-heads will determine whether we survive or not, but usually when we need to dig a few results out SD and the squad deliver.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Spijed » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:13 pm
They will get more points than any of the bottom 3 last year.
That's certainly true.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by KRBFC » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:51 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:11 pm
That's certainly true.
Which would make the league stronger, harder to survive as the bottom 3 will pick up more points.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Spijed » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:56 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:51 pm
Which would make the league stronger, harder to survive as the bottom 3 will pick up more points.
It'll just mean that the points total is more likely to be in the normal range 33/35 points for the highest placed relegated team.

In recent seasons Villa survived on 35 points & Brighton on 36. So not really stronger, just back to normal levels of previous seasons.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by warksclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:28 pm

There will be no stragglers this season-unlike last with Sheff Utd having a disastrous first half of the season. WBA were not much better , with big Sam called in. I cannot see even Norwich falling away this season. Lets face it they have two wins and if they replicate this each quarter plus pick up a few draws , they could be safe. We need to remember that Norwich have already faced some tough fixtures

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by KRBFC » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:34 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:56 pm
It'll just mean that the points total is more likely to be in the normal range 33/35 points for the highest placed relegated team.

In recent seasons Villa survived on 35 points & Brighton on 36. So not really stronger, just back to normal levels of previous seasons.
so stronger than last season then, which is what I said....

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Spijed » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:35 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:28 pm
There will be no stragglers this season-unlike last with Sheff Utd having a disastrous first half of the season. WBA were not much better , with big Sam called in. I cannot see even Norwich falling away this season. Lets face it they have two wins and if they replicate this each quarter plus pick up a few draws , they could be safe. We need to remember that Norwich have already faced some tough fixtures
One thing that also normally happens is a team higher up dropping like a stone. It happened to Bournemouth two seasons ago. They had 16 points after 12 matches and still got relegated.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:43 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:35 pm
One thing that also normally happens is a team higher up dropping like a stone. It happened to Bournemouth two seasons ago. They had 16 points after 12 matches and still got relegated.
I've got Brentford down for that one.
Though it didn't happen to any team last season. No team could get bad enough :D

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by Local cricketer » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:02 am

Brighton dropping like a stone. Not won a game since September but nobody will mention them

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:05 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:35 pm
One thing that also normally happens is a team higher up dropping like a stone. It happened to Bournemouth two seasons ago. They had 16 points after 12 matches and still got relegated.
Everton? Lots of key men injured and looking poor. Got a tough run of games coming up as well. Not saying they'll go down but could easily get sucked into it.

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:19 am

It seems to me that a lot of people on here are pinning their hopes on our survival with a need for clubs above us to start having bad runs of form rather than us actually getting a team together that can win matches for ourselves :?

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:21 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:19 am
It seems to me that a lot of people on here are pinning their hopes on our survival with a need for clubs above us to start having bad runs of form rather than us actually getting a team together that can win matches for ourselves :?
Considering we are in the bottom 3 isn't it obvious (unless you are just seeking another negative) that a team above would have to lose games to drop down the league ?

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:05 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:21 am
Considering we are in the bottom 3 isn't it obvious (unless you are just seeking another negative) that a team above would have to lose games to drop down the league ?
Are we on different wavelengths ?

Just because a team loses it does not mean they drop down the league UNLESS the teams below win

We have to concentrate our efforts and minds on winning games

Forget what the rest of the league are doing, we can't just rely on other teams losing/having bad runs which is what a fair few posters on here seem to be praying for as the answer to our survival

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Re: Relegation fodder

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:12 pm

it's a simple race to 40 points, or near that, get there and the form of other clubs is irrelevant.

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