Referee Andorra v England

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Referee Andorra v England

Post by Paul Waine » Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:38 pm

Andorra v England: All-female team of officials to take charge of World Cup qualifier

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58826263

An all-female team of on-field officials will take charge of Saturday's World Cup qualifier between Andorra and England.

Ukraine's Kateryna Monzul will be the referee while compatriots Maryna Striletska and Svitlana Grushko have been named her assistants.

In addition, Stephanie Frappart of France is the video assistant referee.

It will be the first time a senior England men's international match has had all women officials.

Two men are part of the wider officiating team, with Denys Shurman the fourth official and Viktor Matyash the assistant VAR.

Monzul, 40, also refereed the Nations League match between San Marino and Gibraltar last year, the first time an all-female refereeing team had taken charge of a senior men's international.

In 2016, she became the first woman to officiate a men's top division match in in Ukraine and has refereed at Women's World Cups and European Championships.

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This sounds like a positive development. I wonder if it will help the players show a little more respect to the referee, as they do in rugby and cricket?
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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:39 pm

Fair enough!

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:32 pm

Wouldn't argue with this lady 🙄
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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Vino blanco » Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:36 pm

Good to see, if they are good enough. I would have preferred them to Kevin friend last week.
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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:38 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:36 pm
Good to see, if they are good enough. I would have preferred them to Kevin friend last week.
Kevin $#@%&% grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by IanMcL » Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:02 pm

Sounds like they must be better than that biased, cheating, b'tard of last week and many times before, as Friend but not of Burnley.
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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Stalbansclaret » Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:39 pm

This very upset Millwall fan doesn't think much of Mr Friend either. A terrific rant but see 2mins.40 secs particularly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KLj_sUbOEA

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Local cricketer » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:15 pm

Wouldn’t argue with any Eastern European women

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:22 pm

Pity they didn’t give her a decent competitive game , though if it encourages more women into reffing that’s a good thing . Surprised the bird who runs the line in prem and has done for yrs hasn’t had a go at the main job as always thought she’s been pretty decent ie invisible when running the line .

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:26 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:22 pm
Pity they didn’t give her a decent competitive game , though if it encourages more women into reffing that’s a good thing . Surprised the bird who runs the line in prem and has done for yrs hasn’t had a go at the main job as always thought she’s been pretty decent ie invisible when running the line .
🤔 not exactly a PC way of describing our 1st class premier Lines"person" AlC 😂😂😂

Know what you mean though 👍🙂

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Joe14 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:26 pm

Crack on...... time for change!!!
The refs we’ve had on the Turf recently have been useless.

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Roosterbooster » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:34 pm

I'm all for it. But I do worry what it will look like if footballers continue to behave like footballers...

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:24 am

Sian Massey Ellis struggled with offsides previously, even more so now.

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by ClaretEngineer » Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:02 pm

It should always be a question of ability not sex, colour, race.

There absolutely no technical reason there cannot be female refs and accompanying staff.

Can’t be any worse than the shower of male refs we have.

Hopefully these women don’t take any sh*t from these gobsh*tes. Would be great to see more emphasis placed on cautions for abusive dissent.
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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Aclaret » Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:22 pm

If the football pitch is similar to our house, where Mrs Aclaret is in control,( I've had many yellow cards but thankfully no red ) then it should be a fair match with only 1 winner....the ref.

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by bf2k » Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:34 pm

Can’t say I’ve been that impressed with the ref. A few of the cards given were soft and she’s missed a certain red for one of their players.

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Targetman » Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:56 pm

bf2k wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:34 pm
Can’t say I’ve been that impressed with the ref. A few of the cards given were soft and she’s missed a certain red for one of their players.
I will second that! Thought she was being much too fussy at times.

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:22 pm

I thought she did very well
Was always up with play and the yellows were given to players who got involved with scuffles
Far better than Ftiend and some of the other very poor referees we have on the Premier League and the EFL
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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by beddie » Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:35 pm

Over the top with some yellows when all that was needed was a quick word. She bottled a clear second yellow after the Andorra player had elbowed Coady.

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:38 pm

Nothing really to report, had a steady game.

The real litmus test is reffing a match involving the Eyeties.

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:42 pm

beddie wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:35 pm
Over the top with some yellows when all that was needed was a quick word. She bottled a clear second yellow after the Andorra player had elbowed Coady.
Actually I didn't think that was a foul, to me it looked like the San Marino chap did his best to keep his elbow down.

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Local cricketer » Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:12 pm

She was card happy but decent enough

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Targetman » Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:56 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:42 pm
Actually I didn't think that was a foul, to me it looked like the San Marino chap did his best to keep his elbow down.
San Marino??
Are we talking about the same game?

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by joey13 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:39 am

She was bloody awful , people not calling it because she’s a woman , typical of today’s world

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:53 pm

She was good and much better than Friend Moss and the bulk of the EFL referees
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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by bfcmik » Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:17 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:42 pm
Actually I didn't think that was a foul, to me it looked like the San Marino chap did his best to keep his elbow down.
I too, think the ANDORRA player did his best to keep his elbow within his body profile. Elbows are attached to the body so they have to go somewhere! It looked like Coady made a meal of it as most top level players do, trying to gain the referees sympathy, if not for now, then later should another incident take place.

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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by SouthLondonexile » Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:20 pm

A very competent referee. Andorra were rough and ready and she managed the trouble well.
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Re: Referee Andorra v England

Post by Bosscat » Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:37 pm

SouthLondonexile wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:20 pm
A very competent referee. Andorra were rough and ready and she managed the trouble well.
Agreed SLe ... I for one cannot see why some are saying she was s**te just because she is a wonan ... she handled the match very competently and didn't accept any nonsense.
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