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Turkish Grand Prix

Post by claretburns » Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:21 pm

With only 7 races to go a potentially big weekend ahead in F1. Hamilton has taken a new engine component resulting in a 10 place penalty, so if he gets pole today highest he can start tomorrow is P11.

Verstappen had issues in the first 2 practice sessions, had work done on the car overnight but due to a wet final practice they is not much data to say if the changes have worked and so they just have to wait for qualifying to begin to see what happens.

A great chance for Verstappen to gain a march in the title race, but Turkey is a grand prix which had the most overtakes in a single race, 74, so plenty of chances for Hamilton to climb the grid tomorrow in the race.

Should be, hopefully, a fascinating weekend to continue this brilliant season.
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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:23 pm

Verstappen looks like he’s fixed whatever issues he was having.
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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by claretburns » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:24 pm

Track changed a lot at the end of Q1, Schumacher into Q2 for the first time but Ricciardo out in Q1.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by RammyClaret61 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:25 pm

That was a strange Q1. Most cars staying out most of the session. It’s tight at the front.

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Post by Awayfromburnley » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:27 pm

I've tried to get into F1 as so many of my friends enjoy it and try to get me to watch.

I mean this respectfully as I am joining this thread, but I just can't get my head around the excitement with it.

It's a genuine question but what is it that makes it exciting for you all?

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by RammyClaret61 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:31 pm

Awayfromburnley wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:27 pm
I've tried to get into F1 as so many of my friends enjoy it and try to get me to watch.

I mean this respectfully as I am joining this thread, but I just can't get my head around the excitement with it.

It's a genuine question but what is it that makes it exciting for you all?
100% honest. TV doesn’t do it justice at all. When you go to a Grand Prix and actually see a car pass you at 200+ mph, and the noise. It gets you, and then you understand what you are seeing on the television.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by claretburns » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:33 pm

Awayfromburnley wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:27 pm
I've tried to get into F1 as so many of my friends enjoy it and try to get me to watch.

I mean this respectfully as I am joining this thread, but I just can't get my head around the excitement with it.

It's a genuine question but what is it that makes it exciting for you all?
In previous years watching the Hamilton procession to the title, whilst still watching every race, was boring. In the previous 5 years or so you'd get a race with rain or a safety car which shakes the whole pack up, like when Gasly won in Monza in 2020. But this season the title battle and on track battles between Verstappen and Hamilton have been amazing to watch.

I think the excitement just comes from all the variables in place that can happen at any moment to keep it exciting. I like a lot of sport and football is number 1 on my list, but for example if a grand prix was on and football at the same time, excluding Burnley, I'd watch F1 over football.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by claretburns » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:02 pm

Hamilton fastest but has a 10 place penalty to start in P11.

Bottas will be P1, Verstappen P2 and Leclerc P3.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:03 pm

Best possible outcome for Lewis!

Is there any rain due tomorrow? Let’s hope for an exciting race.

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Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:05 pm

Exciting Q1 but 2 and 3 were a snoozefest.

Let's hope for a bit of drizzle tomorrow!

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by claretburns » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:06 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:03 pm
Best possible outcome for Lewis!

Is there any rain due tomorrow? Let’s hope for an exciting race.
BBC shows dry, cloudy weather tomorrow in Istanbul and 16/17 degrees.

On the pace he showed, Hamilton should at a minimum be targetting a podium finish, if there is a safety car or two, then it should be exciting!

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:07 pm

Forecast to be dry by race time but rain in the morning, lets hope it hangs around or comes later!

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by timshorts » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:55 am

There are tracks that you know cannot produce an exciting race unless it rains, and those that are full of overtaking and other excitement.
If you are not that into it, best to avoid the likes of Austin and Monaco in favour of Baku and Spa.

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Post by KRBFC » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:23 am

I enjoyed the Russian GP, what time does it start today?

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Post by Bosscat » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:28 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:23 am
I enjoyed the Russian GP, what time does it start today?
1pm BST
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Post by KRBFC » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:32 am

Bosscat wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:28 am
1pm BST
Thanks, Is the Turkish GP one of the good entertaining tracks?

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Post by Bosscat » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:33 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:32 am
Thanks, Is the Turkish GP one of the good entertaining tracks?
Looked it in Quallies yesterday

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by claretburns » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:36 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:32 am
Thanks, Is the Turkish GP one of the good entertaining tracks?
Plenty of overtakes possible at Turkey, it has the most overtakes in a single grand prix in F1 history at 74. Factor in the rain from yesterday and overnight washing all the rubber from the track, it will be difficult to begin with getting grip into the new tyres when cold, so expecting a crash at the first corner, which obviously as long as everyone is safe, could be entertaining and shake the whole field up a little.
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Post by icu81b4 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:51 am

I think Sky do a tremendous job presenting this with the likes of Brundle, Button, Chandhok, di Resta, Hill, Davidson and Ted whatsisname, The only chap I’m not too keen on is David Croft who tries to emulate the late Murray Walker and just ends up shouting.

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Post by claretburns » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:12 pm

icu81b4 wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:51 am
I think Sky do a tremendous job presenting this with the likes of Brundle, Button, Chandhok, di Resta, Hill, Davidson and Ted whatsisname, The only chap I’m not too keen on is David Croft who tries to emulate the late Murray Walker and just ends up shouting.
I actually like the Croft & Brundle commentary team or also like yesterday when Brundle wasn't there and Button was on commentary. Just as long as we keep Di Resta away from commentary then we should be safe.

Brundle's son actually commentates on F2 as well and when hearing them over the TV, you cannot tell which Brundle is commentating.

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Post by icu81b4 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:47 pm

I have never been to an F1 race, it’s on my list but haven’t decided which one to go to yet, Italy, Portugal perhaps.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by claretburns » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:50 pm

A damp track turning to dry, going to be some spinners early on, I can give you 1/100 Maze*Spin* will be one of them.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by claretburns » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:59 pm

Everyone starts on Inters, so after 4/5 laps when dry tyres will work, a lot of strategies needed when to pit at the right time, this is going to be a good race, rain is a great equaliser between car performance.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:45 pm

Reckon in hindsight a wet-> inter strategy might’ve won that for Lewis.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by claretburns » Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:49 pm

A shame the race didn't hit the heights it promised.

We just needed some more rain or a higher temperature to tempt teams into more pit stops and changes, but once the dry line appeared, as Sainz said, you just got stuck as it limited overtaking possibilities, but Max gets a slightly bigger points advantage which is good to see! On to Austin in two weeks.

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