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Re: lost, again

Post by burnleymik » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:10 am

Biggest concern last night was that we played all four of our strikers and not one of them looked like a threat against a Tottenham side that weren't really up for it. We are going to need goals to stay up and as soon as sides figure out Cornet I can't see where those goals are going to come from.

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Re: lost, again

Post by Spijed » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:25 am

burnleymik wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:10 am
Biggest concern last night was that we played all four of our strikers and not one of them looked like a threat against a Tottenham side that weren't really up for it. We are going to need goals to stay up and as soon as sides figure out Cornet I can't see where those goals are going to come from.
I still think it's the lack of clean sheets that's the biggest worry. Last season we'd only scored 9 goals after 17 matches but we'd managed to keep six clean sheets in that time.

We've never been prolific scorers but our ability to see out 1-0 wins always kept us ticking over.

This season we've dropped 12 points from winning positions.

That's what's costing us, not lack of goals.

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Re: lost, again

Post by burnleymik » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:29 am

Spijed wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:25 am
I still think it's the lack of clean sheets that's the biggest worry. Last season we'd only scored 9 goals after 17 matches but we'd managed to keep six clean sheets in that time.

We've never been prolific scorers but our ability to see out 1-0 wins always kept us ticking over.

This season we've dropped 12 points from winning positions.

That's what's costing us, not lack of goals.
I agree that we have made uncharacteristic defensive mistakes this season that has cost us games, but I think fundamentally we have a very good and solid defence and keeper. I think Collins and Roberts have helped sure that up further.

Where do you see our goals coming from?

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Re: lost, again

Post by warksclaret » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:43 am

At present our elusive 12th man Owen Gool is equal top goal scorer with Wood and ahead of Vydra Barnes and Rodriguez

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Re: lost, again

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:44 am

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:43 am
At present our elusive 12th man Owen Gool is equal top goal scorer with Wood and ahead of Vydra Barnes and Rodriguez
Cornet's goals not count ?

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Re: lost, again

Post by Spijed » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:47 am

burnleymik wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:29 am
I agree that we have made uncharacteristic defensive mistakes this season that has cost us games, but I think fundamentally we have a very good and solid defence and keeper. I think Collins and Roberts have helped sure that up further.

Where do you see our goals coming from?
As I said, we've never had to rely on scoring goals too much. Scoring one goal was often enough for us. In previous seasons we would never have lost so many points from winning positions as we have done this year so obviously there is something no quite right with how we are unable to stop conceding goals. It crept in at Southampton and at home to West Ham and Newcastle.

Whatever happened to our ability to park the bus and be water tight once we'd got our noses in front?

Scoring two away at Leicester and Southampton (twice) should have been enough to get three points in both those games, but it wasn't. That's where my concerns lie.

Taking the lead against the likes of Brighton and Leeds should also have seen us get an extra five points.

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Re: lost, again

Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:06 pm

It was poor stuff last night. There appeared very little heart in the side, once a main component of a Sean Dyche team. The performance was a tired one, bereft of skill, pace, ideas but mostly desire. I genuinely can't see a way out of this malaise where long periods of the game just disappear without a passage of play to lift the supporters. So many players on view last night gave me the impression that they had been the unlucky ones to have been chosen for a midweek game.
That phrase 'must win game' has cropped up more than once already this season and this Saturday's game can be added to the list, I suppose. We're at a crossroads, that's for certain and unless the mood is lifted for both players and fans I really can't see us taking the correct route.

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Re: lost, again

Post by KRBFC » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:09 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:54 am
Hardly a good example to use Bielsa and Leeds as a good example when they are struggling at the moment.

Also, until Leeds and other sides you may quote manage to qualify for Europe on a small budget your argument can basically be dismissed out of hand.
Perfect example, I said, I can take losses. Leeds will be fine regardless of the division they are in.

What has qualifying for the qualifying round 4 years ago got to do with anything? and what does that prove exactly?

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Re: lost, again

Post by warksclaret » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:27 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:44 am
Cornet's goals not count ?
Was referring to our 4 elite strikers. Now one goal between them, and that a gaff by the keeper

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Re: lost, again

Post by KRBFC » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:37 pm

I thought Spurs were absolutely awful last night too, the Spurs fans were chanting ''Nuno, make a change, Nuno Nuno make a change'' they still beat us comfortably.

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Re: lost, again

Post by Flixton Claret » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:57 pm

Bump ... just for WarksClaret!! 😂

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