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Newcastle future plan
Don't know how much to believe this but at the weekend I read that representatives of Newcastle were looking at plots of land in South London. Speculation has now surfaced that they are going to build a training facility there and fly the team to and from Newcastle as required in order to attract top European and Worldwide talent in the coming seasons as they may not want to live in the NE. I can't see this being sustainable myself but who knows it wouldn't surprise me.
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Sounds like one step away from moving the club south. Another MK Dons?
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This was mooted by Sunderland a few years ago I think, but it didn't go any further than an idea.
It was also something done by Anzhi Makhachkala, but their stadium was in a dodgy place tbh.
Yes the purists will get upset by this proposal, but assuming the traveling doesn't affect the players, then it shouldn't really be an issue.
Players rarely live in the same town/city as their clubs, not like the old days.
Newcastle used to pay over the top in wages etc to lure better players there during Keegan's first time in charge etc.
Is it sustainable?
Doesn't matter when your owners are that rich, but it's only an hour's flight from Heathrow to Newcastle, so hardly the end of the world, or train takes 3-4 hrs for any non-flying Dutchmen.
If anything I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now.
It was also something done by Anzhi Makhachkala, but their stadium was in a dodgy place tbh.
Yes the purists will get upset by this proposal, but assuming the traveling doesn't affect the players, then it shouldn't really be an issue.
Players rarely live in the same town/city as their clubs, not like the old days.
Newcastle used to pay over the top in wages etc to lure better players there during Keegan's first time in charge etc.
Is it sustainable?
Doesn't matter when your owners are that rich, but it's only an hour's flight from Heathrow to Newcastle, so hardly the end of the world, or train takes 3-4 hrs for any non-flying Dutchmen.
If anything I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now.
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“If anything I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now.”
Have you not heard of the Climate Emergency.
Have you not heard of the Climate Emergency.
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How will the arab head dress wearing gloating Geordies like it when they are referred to as the South London black stripes as the only connection with the city ?
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Thames Tyners .
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Heavily linked with Unai Emery, one of my favourite managers.
He would get them out of the bottom 3.
He would get them out of the bottom 3.
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Murder FC of Newcastle
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I don’t disagree but as they say times are a changing.TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:48 pmI'm not sure that's of huge concern to folk who make their money selling fossil fuel.
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Never thought of a club doing this, but makes sense. It would certainly help attract the big names like you Mbappes and Harlaands in 5-10 years time.
Signed a good manager aswell by the sounds of it.
Signed a good manager aswell by the sounds of it.
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Wonder if they’ll be flying the locals who have jobs at the training ground to and from London every day.
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And what about the players who already settled in the NE with kids in school etc.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:26 pmWonder if they’ll be flying the locals who have jobs at the training ground to and from London every day.
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If it’s anything like other industry’s they will be offered a relocation package. Can’t imagine too many will complainTheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:29 pmAnd what about the players who already settled in the NE with kids in school etc.
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Liverpool, Man U. & Man City have managed to attract some of the best players in the world. None live in London as far as I'm aware.
So why would Newcastle have to do this?
So why would Newcastle have to do this?
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And all the Newcastle fans thought they had their club back out of the evil Mike Ashley's hands.
If and it is still very much an if, but if the PL allows them to simply up sticks to South London, then it would make the whole league a laughing stock.
Fine if the Saudi's wish to bankroll a club, although many people rightly have issues with that in itself, but they should be made to start from the bottom of the pyramid and work their way through the leagues.
I can't see this venture getting anywhere, and I for one hope it's given short shrift if they even contemplate such a move.
If and it is still very much an if, but if the PL allows them to simply up sticks to South London, then it would make the whole league a laughing stock.
Fine if the Saudi's wish to bankroll a club, although many people rightly have issues with that in itself, but they should be made to start from the bottom of the pyramid and work their way through the leagues.
I can't see this venture getting anywhere, and I for one hope it's given short shrift if they even contemplate such a move.
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What a bizarre view, so should all clubs taken over by foreign owners have to start at the very bottom?tiger76 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:38 pmAnd all the Newcastle fans thought they had their club back out of the evil Mike Ashley's hands.
If and it is still very much an if, but if the PL allows them to simply up sticks to South London, then it would make the whole league a laughing stock.
Fine if the Saudi's wish to bankroll a club, although many people rightly have issues with that in itself, but they should be made to start from the bottom of the pyramid and work their way through the leagues.
I can't see this venture getting anywhere, and I for one hope it's given short shrift if they even contemplate such a move.
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The fog on the Thames is all thems?
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I think you've got the wrong end of the stick here. The story is that they want to relocate the training ground not the whole club.tiger76 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:38 pmAnd all the Newcastle fans thought they had their club back out of the evil Mike Ashley's hands.
If and it is still very much an if, but if the PL allows them to simply up sticks to South London, then it would make the whole league a laughing stock.
Fine if the Saudi's wish to bankroll a club, although many people rightly have issues with that in itself, but they should be made to start from the bottom of the pyramid and work their way through the leagues.
I can't see this venture getting anywhere, and I for one hope it's given short shrift if they even contemplate such a move.
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Exactly and with the money Newcastle will be paying these players they can surely afford their own travel to and from the capital.
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Depends whether they want to move the whole club lock, stock and barrel doesn't it.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:41 pmWhat a bizarre view, so should all clubs taken over by foreign owners have to start at the very bottom?
Football isn't like any normal business is it, and these clubs are deeply embedded in their specific communities, once you allow clubs to simply be treated as commodities then the game is dead in my view.
And it's not just foreign owners that can be troublesome for clubs, witness Steve Dale at Bury as a prime example.
The fit and proper owners test clearly isn't worth the paper it's written on, but given the EFL or PL obviously don't give a fig sadly this isn't likely to change anytime soon.
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Sounds like the sort of rumour that gets generated in the south. To them it makes sense, after all who would chose to live in the barbaric north. Amazing how this mythology survives, ffs it’s been the same shite ever since the Romans arrived.
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still seems bizarre to me, and what benefit they would gain from that isn't clear to me.TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:46 pmI think you've got the wrong end of the stick here. The story is that they want to relocate the training ground not the whole club.
If it's simply about attracting star names, well the salaries on offer would do that alone, and as another poster alluded too this could be the 1st step in ultimately setting up a London franchise.
And that's even before all the negative PR they'd attract from this unnecessary flying when we're in the storm of a climate crisis.
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I’d rather live in Newcastle than London.
Each to their own, I guess.
Each to their own, I guess.
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Training ground in London? Maybe time for the ‘cockney mafia’ and Dennis Wise to re-emerge.
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Logistically it would make sense having put some thought into jt
Newcastle's closest away game is Leeds isn't it?
A large chunk of their away games will be across the Midlands and south east.
The North west is easily accessible from London anyway.
It would certainly cut a lot of travel time for the majority of away games.
19 home league games a season is easy enough to manage, it will be a few years before they crack the top 6 for European games to come into consideration.
The more you think about it objectively, the more it makes sense for them.
Newcastle is a nice enough city from what I've seen, but some foreign lads' families may prefer to be closer to places like London.
Newcastle's closest away game is Leeds isn't it?
A large chunk of their away games will be across the Midlands and south east.
The North west is easily accessible from London anyway.
It would certainly cut a lot of travel time for the majority of away games.
19 home league games a season is easy enough to manage, it will be a few years before they crack the top 6 for European games to come into consideration.
The more you think about it objectively, the more it makes sense for them.
Newcastle is a nice enough city from what I've seen, but some foreign lads' families may prefer to be closer to places like London.
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Don't know what they are worried about, the Arabs know their geography
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I agree with everything you’ve said there. Apart from the environmental issue (hey it’s COP week ) I can’t see an issue with it. I’m surprised more trans haven’t hired St. George’s Park. That’s not a bad part of the country to live.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:30 pmThis was mooted by Sunderland a few years ago I think, but it didn't go any further than an idea.
It was also something done by Anzhi Makhachkala, but their stadium was in a dodgy place tbh.
Yes the purists will get upset by this proposal, but assuming the traveling doesn't affect the players, then it shouldn't really be an issue.
Players rarely live in the same town/city as their clubs, not like the old days.
Newcastle used to pay over the top in wages etc to lure better players there during Keegan's first time in charge etc.
Is it sustainable?
Doesn't matter when your owners are that rich, but it's only an hour's flight from Heathrow to Newcastle, so hardly the end of the world, or train takes 3-4 hrs for any non-flying Dutchmen.
If anything I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now.
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So what you’re saying is where you live is a **** hole?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:31 pmIf it’s anything like other industry’s they will be offered a relocation package. Can’t imagine too many will complain
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I was jokingNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:00 pmI meant I don’t think many will complain about being offered a relocation package
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looks like Unai Emery is going to be their new boss
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They should showcase what Newcastle has to offer to the world rather than exploring this ridiculous alternative. I've lived in Newcastle for over 10 years now on and off and it's a fabulous City. Each to their own but I can't think of many situations that would make me even contemplate relocating to London.
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Not sure how relevent this is but don't Barrow train in Manchester and commute to Barrow for home games? A shorter distance but same principle.
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Newcastle is a great city, a good night out, and friendly locals. A lot nicer place to live than London.
Couple that with its proximity to the Pennines and Northumberland, why would anyone want to move south.
It would be a real slap in the face for the locals, and fans, saying Newcastle isn't good enough to live in.
I'm taking it with a pinch of salt, more likely Chinese whispers than true, but as a fan, if Burnley did the same it would cut the umbilical cord that attaches me to the club.
Couple that with its proximity to the Pennines and Northumberland, why would anyone want to move south.
It would be a real slap in the face for the locals, and fans, saying Newcastle isn't good enough to live in.
I'm taking it with a pinch of salt, more likely Chinese whispers than true, but as a fan, if Burnley did the same it would cut the umbilical cord that attaches me to the club.
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It seems Emery won’t be going to Newcastle after all, according to the BBC.
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There's already talk about them moving to a new stadium as St James Park can't be extended anymore.
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Michael Owen used to commute by helicopter to Newcastle from his north west location I believe.
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That was totally unnecessary. There's a perfectly good hospital very close to the ground.clarethomer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:30 amMichael Owen used to commute by helicopter to Newcastle from his north west location I believe.
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I think your looking at it from your point of view. Think about it from a multi millionaire footballers point of view. Newcastle is fantastic but the end of the day there’s not many high end things to do, even the best bars and nightclub and relatively low budget.Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:49 amNewcastle is a great city, a good night out, and friendly locals. A lot nicer place to live than London.
Couple that with its proximity to the Pennines and Northumberland, why would anyone want to move south.
It would be a real slap in the face for the locals, and fans, saying Newcastle isn't good enough to live in.
I'm taking it with a pinch of salt, more likely Chinese whispers than true, but as a fan, if Burnley did the same it would cut the umbilical cord that attaches me to the club.
In relation to it cutting the umbilical cord, Does any Burnley footballer live within an hour of Burnley? I was under the impression most lived towards Birmingham?
Our manager hasn’t even relocated to area after 9 years. It’s just the way things are. As long as they play the home match at the ground don’t think it makes the slightest bit of difference.
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Burnley footballers may not live within an hour of Burnley BUT they train in Burnley....that is the pint being raised....I love Newcastle as a night out, don't get there often enough even though we are only about 40 minutes away by bus and train....Quayside is a great night out....Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:30 amI think your looking at it from your point of view. Think about it from a multi millionaire footballers point of view. Newcastle is fantastic but the end of the day there’s not many high end things to do, even the best bars and nightclub and relatively low budget.
In relation to it cutting the umbilical cord, Does any Burnley footballer live within an hour of Burnley? I was under the impression most lived towards Birmingham?
Our manager hasn’t even relocated to area after 9 years. It’s just the way things are. As long as they play the home match at the ground don’t think it makes the slightest bit of difference.
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Why haven't either Manchester clubs felt the need to do the same?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:30 amI think your looking at it from your point of view. Think about it from a multi millionaire footballers point of view. Newcastle is fantastic but the end of the day there’s not many high end things to do, even the best bars and nightclub and relatively low budget.
In relation to it cutting the umbilical cord, Does any Burnley footballer live within an hour of Burnley? I was under the impression most lived towards Birmingham?
Our manager hasn’t even relocated to area after 9 years. It’s just the way things are. As long as they play the home match at the ground don’t think it makes the slightest bit of difference.
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I don't expect players to live within a stones throw of the ground, I know a lot of Burnley players live around Manchester, and that Sean rents a house around Padiham. That isn't the point, they come to Burnley to work. Whether that's training or playing, they are in the community. Many of the off field things they do, such as the Food store, local school visits, Brownhill and his help local businesses, create a bond between fans and players and club. Imo that would be lost by turning your back on your home town, just because you think it isn't good enough.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:30 amI think your looking at it from your point of view. Think about it from a multi millionaire footballers point of view. Newcastle is fantastic but the end of the day there’s not many high end things to do, even the best bars and nightclub and relatively low budget.
In relation to it cutting the umbilical cord, Does any Burnley footballer live within an hour of Burnley? I was under the impression most lived towards Birmingham?
Our manager hasn’t even relocated to area after 9 years. It’s just the way things are. As long as they play the home match at the ground don’t think it makes the slightest bit of difference.
I'd also question the nightclubs and bars not being up to much, would you really relocate so that your players can go on the **** in better clubs
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Some good points there tbh, I hadn’t thought of the expenditure in the local area.Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:03 amI don't expect players to live within a stones throw of the ground, I know a lot of Burnley players live around Manchester, and that Sean rents a house around Padiham. That isn't the point, they come to Burnley to work. Whether that's training or playing, they are in the community. Many of the off field things they do, such as the Food store, local school visits, Brownhill and his help local businesses, create a bond between fans and players and club. Imo that would be lost by turning your back on your home town, just because you think it isn't good enough.
I'd also question the nightclubs and bars not being up to much, would you really relocate so that your players can go on the **** in better clubs
It’s not just Bars and Nightclubs, it’s restaurants, theatres, etc…
I can see the reasoning for making this happen, it probably would help them attract better talent.
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In relation to it cutting the umbilical cord, Does any Burnley footballer live within an hour of Burnley? I was under the impression most lived towards Birmingham?
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They'd attract the talent easier if they sold the positives of the North East, rather than dissing it, and it does have an awful lot of positives.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:09 amSome good points there tbh, I hadn’t thought of the expenditure in the local area.
It’s not just Bars and Nightclubs, it’s restaurants, theatres, etc…
I can see the reasoning for making this happen, it probably would help them attract better talent.
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Most of the Burnley lads live in either Worsley, Hale, or Wilmslow (as do the majority of North West professional players I'd imagine). These are all effectively suburbs of Manchester, and the first two are easily within an hour of Gawthorpe at most times of day.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:30 amI think your looking at it from your point of view. Think about it from a multi millionaire footballers point of view. Newcastle is fantastic but the end of the day there’s not many high end things to do, even the best bars and nightclub and relatively low budget.
In relation to it cutting the umbilical cord, Does any Burnley footballer live within an hour of Burnley? I was under the impression most lived towards Birmingham?
Our manager hasn’t even relocated to area after 9 years. It’s just the way things are. As long as they play the home match at the ground don’t think it makes the slightest bit of difference.
Best of both worlds; handy for Manchester, the airport, M6, train to London, decent golf courses, and also commuting distance to work.