I just wonder
I just wonder
How many players in the top six would expect to get into our team without being "dyche fit" and be capable of proving it
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Re: I just wonder
Top players at the top clubs will easily have the fitness levels that Dyche expects off our players
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Re: I just wonder
It's not just about fitness with Sean though, I think attitude plays a massive part in his thinking
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Re: I just wonder
Attitudes a different question but if you're including that in your term of 'Dyche Fit' then yes most of the top stars have a fantastic attitude and a great work ethic. Apart from special cases players wont make it to the top and play regularly for teams like Liverpool, City and Chelsea on talent alone
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Apologies, by "dyche fit" I meant fit mentally, physically and committed to the cause.
In my world this is what is minimum requirement to get in the team.
In my world this is what is minimum requirement to get in the team.
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Re: I just wonder
Obviously someone like Jack Grealish isnt going to want to come to play for Burnley and as a winger have a main role of tracking the oppositions full backs but thats nothing to do with his fitness, attitude and commitment but because he's better than our level and will want to play with the best players he can. In the same way Cornet wouldn't want to go and play for Preston at the bottom of the Championship cos he's better than their level.
If a top player wanted for some reason to come and play for Burnley and Dyche wanted them here then I dont think they would be any worry on the 'Dyche Fit' question cos like I said these players tend to be model pro's who have worked tirelessly for most of there life to get to the top.
If a top player wanted for some reason to come and play for Burnley and Dyche wanted them here then I dont think they would be any worry on the 'Dyche Fit' question cos like I said these players tend to be model pro's who have worked tirelessly for most of there life to get to the top.
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Erm what has that got to do with the question I asked?Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:03 amObviously someone like Jack Grealish isnt going to want to come to play for Burnley and as a winger have a main role of tracking the oppositions full backs but thats nothing to do with his fitness, attitude and commitment but because he's better than our level and will want to play with the best players he can. In the same way Cornet wouldn't want to go and play for Preston at the bottom of the Championship cos he's better than their level.
If a top player wanted for some reason to come and play for Burnley and Dyche wanted them here then I dont think they would be any worry on the 'Dyche Fit' question cos like I said these players tend to be model pro's who have worked tirelessly for most of there life to get to the top.
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colossal over rated dud. grealish is a waste of space.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:03 amObviously someone like Jack Grealish isnt going to want to come to play for Burnley and as a winger have a main role of tracking the oppositions full backs but thats nothing to do with his fitness, attitude and commitment but because he's better than our level and will want to play with the best players he can. In the same way Cornet wouldn't want to go and play for Preston at the bottom of the Championship cos he's better than their level.
If a top player wanted for some reason to come and play for Burnley and Dyche wanted them here then I dont think they would be any worry on the 'Dyche Fit' question cos like I said these players tend to be model pro's who have worked tirelessly for most of there life to get to the top.
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The way I see it there are players out there(many levels) that would give their all to play for us, maybe not so many in the top teams, but, my question (I believe) is pertinent.
If a player is really confident in their abity/character and thirst would they not want to prove themselves in a team built on standards rather then money?
If a player is really confident in their abity/character and thirst would they not want to prove themselves in a team built on standards rather then money?
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Im explaining my answer but in short I think pretty much all the top players could walk into our side and do what was asked of the because in terms of fitness, attitude and commitment they have to have all of those qualities to reach where they have got to in the game
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Fair enough. but would he be capable of being integrated in our team and prove his quality in a team such as ours? or would he be lost with our style of play, our methods, system and resilience.
Again I'm afraid that my question was a a little basic, I'm looking at the whole team ethos rather than indvidual qualities
Again I'm afraid that my question was a a little basic, I'm looking at the whole team ethos rather than indvidual qualities
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Yes personally I think they would in the same way Cornet has come straight in to our team. I think for defenders and defensive midfielders they would actually find it a lot easier playing in our set up than they do playing for the top teams where they have to cope with being very exposed at times.
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I think the op is severely underestimating the attitude and adaptability of top quality footballers. Look at Cornet - comes into a team who play a style he’s probably never really been involved with, in a position he hasn’t really played before and still looks a class above. Have a look at Man City today against United - their off the ball work, their attitude, stamina and work rate. Closing down, pressurising, in the 90th minute even when 2-0 up. LFC similar.
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Re: I just wonder
Fitness levels would be easy.
I think its more to do with, as Stephen Defour put it, learning to play without the ball.
There are many wonderful players in the top 6, yet watching them it is obvious that many of them would improve massively, if they could learn how to play without the ball. TAA the most obvious individual.
I think its more to do with, as Stephen Defour put it, learning to play without the ball.
There are many wonderful players in the top 6, yet watching them it is obvious that many of them would improve massively, if they could learn how to play without the ball. TAA the most obvious individual.
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Agree, pretty much any player in the top 6 squadsDevils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:16 amIm explaining my answer but in short I think pretty much all the top players could walk into our side and do what was asked of the because in terms of fitness, attitude and commitment they have to have all of those qualities to reach where they have got to in the game
Has someone seriously suggested Grealish is useless?
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Foden and Jesus were asked to nullify Utd's wing-backs, i.e do a job for the team, Silva was asked to play as a false 9. City are the epitome of a team.
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