Is Tarks likely to leave in January?

[jurek]

Recall reading a little while back that Newcastle would/might
be in for Tarkowski come January transfer window.
Seems to have gone quiet recently but if Newcastle are still
down there come January then they may well come in for him
rather than wait until summer when he can leave on a free.

Personally I hope he stays as he could be an important player
in our efforts to stay up.

If he goes then I presume we'll need to get someone in even
though Collins may well step up

Anyone heard anything more?

[tiger76]

Not heard anything, but if Newcastle offer crazy money, say £20m, we'd definitely have to at least give it strong consideration.

Collins has shown enough in his appearances so far to suggest he can provide adequate cover if Tarks was to leave in January.

I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd plump for JT staying until the summer, and then leaving on a free.

Whether that would be to Newcastle though, I wouldn't be so sure, Leicester and West Ham have both been heavily linked with Tarks in the past, and it's likely one or both of those will be able to offer European footy of some description.

[claretburns]

Newcastle was the team linked and it has been reported that the club and Tarks have agreed an acceptable fee, which if received in Jan would be accepted.

But between now and then there are many games to play and Newcastle could be seriously cut adrift by that point.

Also Newcastle would need to offer £40 million+ for it to be acceptable selling to a relegation rival.

[Peter Loo]

Newcastle was the team linked and it has been reported that the club and Tarks have agreed an acceptable fee, which if received in Jan would be accepted.

But between now and then there are many games to play and Newcastle could be seriously cut adrift by that point.

Also Newcastle would need to offer £40 million+ for it to be acceptable selling to a relegation rival.

Really, have you a link to the evidence please.

[Devils_Advocate]

I reckon Howe is the kind of manager that could take Tarks to the next level and get him back in the England set up

[Newcastleclaret93]

Why would anyone sign him in January when they can get him to sign a contract in January and come for free in the summer

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

I reckon Howe is the kind of manager that could take Tarks to the next level and get him back in the England set up

Yeah, coz defence has always been Eddie’s strong point as a manager

[Devils_Advocate]

Yeah, coz defence has always been Eddie’s strong point as a manager

For the first few years in the Prem he had pretty much the entire defence he had in League one so he definitely improved them by a couple of levels.

[tiger76]

Why would anyone sign him in January when they can get him to sign a contract in January and come for free in the summer

Desperation I guess, but I agree and that's why I'll be if anyone makes a move for Tarks in Jan.

Risky for Tarks if he commits to joining Newcastle on a pre-contract, as their PL future is by no means guaranteed, so if he's not careful he could find himself back playing in the Championship.

That's why he'd be wise to hold out until the end of the season, when he may have other options on the table.

[bfcjg]

Looking at Man U I think Tarks could end up there he is head and shoulders better then what they have. Newcastle could end up like a basket case club full of mercenaries and it could destroy his career.

[randomclaret2]

I reckon Howe is the kind of manager that could take Tarks to the next level and get him back in the England set up

Classic DA

[Newcastleclaret93]

Looking at Man U I think Tarks could end up there he is head and shoulders better then what they have. Newcastle could end up like a basket case club full of mercenaries and it could destroy his career.

Tarks probs wouldn’t even make the bench at United in reality.

Look at the talent they at there disposal.

Tarks would be best going to West Ham especially if they get top 4. Big pay rise, European football and regularly start.

[Goody1975]

If we stay up, what funds will we have to spend on improving the squad in the summer?

Yes it would take a sizeable fee (especially when 27.5% of any profit goes to Brentford) but we'd be mad not to consider letting him go for cash in late January, rather than for nothing in the summer.

It would be a case of possibly weakening your hand in the latter part of this season as opposed to the summer window. A tough choice, unless we have another replacement lined up that we could sign in January.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Tarks probs wouldn’t even make the bench at United in reality.

Look at the talent they at there disposal.

Tarks would be best going to West Ham especially if they get top 4. Big pay rise, European football and regularly start.

Regularly start at West ham?

The question to ask is, is he measurably better than what they've got already?
Not really is he...

[Newcastleclaret93]

Regularly start at West ham?

The question to ask is, is he measurably better than what they've got already?
Not really is he...

I think with the amount of fixtures they have he would at least feature in 20-25 games for them across Europe and league

[boatshed bill]

If I was his agent I'd be telling him to stay at Burnley for the rest of his career.
He's already a legend here; dropping to a mere squad member, even at a bigger club, isn't the same.
Money isn't everything, they all have enough already.

[NewClaret]

I reckon Howe is the kind of manager that could take Tarks to the next level and get him back in the England set up

Good effort

[bobinho]

If I was his agent I'd be telling him to stay at Burnley for the rest of his career.
He's already a legend here; dropping to a mere squad member, even at a bigger club, isn't the same.
Money isn't everything, they all have enough already.

They NEVER have enough...

Pennies in January, free in the summer, and a big fat signing on fee (as there was no transfer fee). He knows what he's gonna do.

[RalphCoatesComb]

I'd love to see Tarkowski stay but, we now have cover and, if he goes, he goes with my blessing

[timshorts]

If I was his agent I'd be telling him to stay at Burnley for the rest of his career.
He's already a legend here; dropping to a mere squad member, even at a bigger club, isn't the same.
Money isn't everything, they all have enough already.

Squad member?

Lascelles is still in the starting line up, and several others are close to drawing a pension.

[boatshed bill]

Squad member?

Lascelles is still in the starting line up, and several others are close to drawing a pension.

Well, that is on the assumption that his ambition is no higher than Newcastle.

[Local cricketer]

Why would anyone sign him in January when they can get him to sign a contract in January and come for free in the summer

Doesn’t work like that. Can only sign a pre contract if moving abroad

[Newcastleclaret93]

They NEVER have enough...

Pennies in January, free in the summer, and a big fat signing on fee (as there was no transfer fee). He knows what he's gonna do.

Think you nailed it Bobinho. Tarks could set up his grandkids for life with the next contract. Probably sign a three year deal on 100k a week with a nice 3-5m signing on fee.

Tarks could bag himself close to 20m with this next contract. If he stays at Burnley he will probably pull in 7.5m.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Doesn’t work like that. Can only sign a pre contract if moving abroad

Correct it’s a month before not 6 in the prem

[Local cricketer]

Correct it’s a month before not 6 in the prem

I’m sure it goes on in the murky world of the premier league though

[Down_Rover]

I reckon Howe is the kind of manager that could take Tarks to the next level and get him back in the England set up

Well you caught a sprat or two with that one DA

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I think with the amount of fixtures they have he would at least feature in 20-25 games for them across Europe and league

If they finish in the top 6, they'll be looking for better than Tarks quite simply
He'd be a squad member at West Ham, which he might be content with, but he wouldn't feature that often I suspect because they'd buy players to take them to that next level.

Zouma is a prime example of that effort.

[JarrowClaret]

Why would anyone sign him in January when they can get him to sign a contract in January and come for free in the summer

Edit: removed as already mentioned, I should read till the end ha ha.

[Vegas Claret]

unless we are cut adrift come January I wouldn't sell him unless Newcastle offered ridiculous money (which they wont)

[Foshiznik]

Looking at Man U I think Tarks could end up there he is head and shoulders better then what they have. Newcastle could end up like a basket case club full of mercenaries and it could destroy his career.

Would be very similar to what happened to Michael Keane when he left us for Everton.

[ClaretMov]

Where ever he goes it won't work out for him, he doesn't look half the player without Ben Mee beside him, Mee makes Tarkowski look a better player.

[AfloatinClaret]

Where ever he goes it won't work out for him, he doesn't look half the player without Ben Mee beside him, Mee makes Tarkowski look a better player.

I tend to agree, the Burnley system/set-up is built off/around the centre-back partnership which it's unlikely to be elsewhere - a problem initially for Keane when he went to Everton perhaps? - but from JT's point of view, once the contract's in his pocket and the sign-on fee already in the bank, that becomes the buying club's problem rather than his.

[KRBFC]

Looking at Man U I think Tarks could end up there he is head and shoulders better then what they have.

Tarkowski head and shoulder better than Rafa Varane?

[KRBFC]

Varane has won the world cup (he played every minute, he's no John Oshea), 3 la liga titles and about 4 UCL trophies, has been included in the world 11.

on what planet is Tarkowski better?

[TheFamilyCat]

He would be a good option for Newcastle. PL experience, especially in playing in a team battling to stay up and available at a fraction of his value.

If they were interested I'd like to think we would play hardball as, regardless of what happens between now and January, we are still going to be considered relegation rivals.

Tarks himself could force the move but I think he'll already know who else is interested in him next summer and they'll probably be more appealing than Newcastle will be in January.

[dsr]

We won't sell in January because the numbers won't be mutually acceptable to all 3 parties.

Burnley won't accept less than perhaps £x million because it will put our PL place in January and we only get 3/4 of the x.
Newcastle probably won't offer as much as £x million for a player whose contract is running down.
And if the two clubs do find a mutually acceptable value of x - then Tarkowski won't take it because he wants a large chunk of x as his signing on fee (and because he wants to be sure his new club will be in the PL next year).

IMO,

[warksclaret]

I am actually in the "he will stay camp". If we continue our current good form of late, then if players like Pope sign a longer contract, as does Ben, and Tarks continues to enjoy his football with us, he may be able to negotiate a contract to stay with us

[Lancasterclaret]

Newcastle can offer the £25 million we wanted in the summer

I wouldn't be surprised if we went for that to be honest, though I suspect it would depend on where we are in the league

[dibraidio]

It looks very much like he's going to go for a free in the summer which is probably the best thing for him.

If BFC could sell him for 13.5m in January that would give Brentford 2.75m and Burnley 10.75m.
If BFC sell him for 8.5m Brenford would get 1.375m and Burnley would get 7.125m.
How much is he likely to be worth at this stage of his contract? I guess a payment now could avoid a bidding war come the summer.

Would that sort of money be worth it to BFC for losing a first choice player? Collins may have shown that he's a good player but what if he gets injured or suspended? Would Tarky accept being sold? Could a sigining on fee for him be included in the deal?

[TheFamilyCat]

Newcastle can offer the £25 million we wanted in the summer

I wouldn't be surprised if we went for that to be honest, though I suspect it would depend on where we are in the league

I think it would also depend on getting a replacement in, even if it was a loan to the end of the season. I've no concerns about Collins but should we lose Tarks and Mee or Collins be injured, we could find ourselves in a bit of trouble.

[Spijed]

In Collins we have a very good replacement so I'd be happy to let him go in Jan if the price is ok.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Newcastle can offer the £25 million we wanted in the summer

I wouldn't be surprised if we went for that to be honest, though I suspect it would depend on where we are in the league

There is no chance we are going to get anyway near that fee.

Tbh I can’t see why Tarks would move in Jan (from the players point of view). Why would he? He could get a big signing on fee just for waiting 6 months

[CrosspoolClarets]

With Ogbonna just doing his ACL and Tarky obviously being better than Dawson I think it is highly likely Moyes will want him in January and we could get offered, say, £20m. They will be well aware we are in the bottom three and selling him could end up costing the club a fortune in lost revenue. £10m won’t cut it.

[Lancasterclaret]

There is no chance we are going to get anyway near that fee.

Tbh I can’t see why Tarks would move in Jan (from the players point of view). Why would he? He could get a big signing on fee just for waiting 6 months

There is no way we'd sell him for anything less, so its all good

We either get a s**t load of cash to spend on a replacement, or we keep one of the best centre halves in the league

Win/win

[Sleeping Cat]

When the rumours first surfaced that Tarks could be a target for Newcastle in the January window it was literally as the takeover happened and given how it has taken them a bit longer than expected to bring in a manager, after being turned down by at least one (Emery), I think the source of these rumours now were just journalists, podcasters, high profile fans playing Fantasy Football. A case of "who would you bring in to help Newcastle?" for content and soundbites by people who have a vested interest in driving a conversation about it.

With Howe now appointed manager I wonder if they may go for Ake at City might. He can't get a game, he's younger than Tarks, Howe has worked with him before etc etc. They are still on the search for a Sporting Director to help with transfers, so initially they might be more influenced by the manager at this point.

Either way, I still don't see Tarks signing a new contact and will more than likely leave at the end of the season.

[IWOODLOVETT]

If I was a betting man I’d put big money on him going to Newcastle in January.

The move suits everyone - Newcastle’s prospects for Premier League survival, Tarks to stay in the north, working with an English manager, bigger money, enhanced England prospects, exciting big club potential, big payday for his agent, playing alongside other big name recruits etc. etc.

It’s a dream move for Tarks - one that he’s been waiting for and in reality (with the Saudi money) a better option than any of the big 6 teams, or West Ham.

[Quickenthetempo]

If Tarky is interested in going to Newcastle then he would be better off going in Jan.

The move might not be there for him next summer if they go down. He could go there and help them stay up and weaken us at the same time.

But we're all just speculating.

[Rowls]

I reckon Howe is the kind of manager that could take Tarks to the next level and get him back in the England set up

A return to form here, DA.

[pompeyclaret]

I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave in January.

If he left at the end of Jan, that's 15 games without him, and Collins in.

If we sell him for £10m, and get a player on loan/ swap as part of the deal, this could benefit us and Newcastle/ West Ham/ other.

Although a great servant, no player is bigger than the club, and we appear to already have his replacement bedding in nicely.

Also really can't blame anyone for wanting to go to a bigger club on twice the salary with better international chances.

[gawthorpe_view]

Tarkowski will do what's best for himself, his career and his family.
Just like the rest of us would.