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Waddle season.
Parky, Eyres and K**t Nogan in the PNE side.
Awful, cruddy football yet strangely watchable, like last night’s slugfest.
Parky, Eyres and K**t Nogan in the PNE side.
Awful, cruddy football yet strangely watchable, like last night’s slugfest.
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Wow, first time I’ve ever watched that back!
I was there getting crushed at the front as a kid, wanted to stay with my Dad rather than go in the children’s paddock area to the front right of the stand, I remember the yellow cage around it.
Like you say, the standard of football was horrible, I’d say the FA Cup match the other night was much better standard on a much better pitch and that was a non league pitch
I was there getting crushed at the front as a kid, wanted to stay with my Dad rather than go in the children’s paddock area to the front right of the stand, I remember the yellow cage around it.
Like you say, the standard of football was horrible, I’d say the FA Cup match the other night was much better standard on a much better pitch and that was a non league pitch
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The standard of that match equalled the experience of being in the pavilion stand
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I was at that game and remember being ecstatic at Moore's winner. The standard might not look great, but Andy Cooke, Payton, Beresford, Damien Matthew and the magnificent Glen Little (plus some others) were bloody good players in their day. Moore (the defender) most certainly wasn't, but that towering header has lived long in the memory.
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Before I take a look, my memories of that day are being stuck in front of the pavilion stand and being blinded by the sun looking towards the town end. That is apart from Moore scoring the late winner.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:13 amThe standard of that match equalled the experience of being in the pavilion stand
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Who’s our Number 14 in the video? I can’t for the life of me place him. At first (because of the hair) I thought it might be Chris Brass, but then the face is totally unrecognisable to me.
I know we had a load of young lads get chances that season like Eastwood, Carr-Lawton etc so it could be one of those perhaps?
I know we had a load of young lads get chances that season like Eastwood, Carr-Lawton etc so it could be one of those perhaps?
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Eastwood I think.jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:27 amWho’s our Number 14 in the video? I can’t for the life of me place him. At first (because of the hair) I thought it might be Chris Brass, but then the face is totally unrecognisable to me.
I know we had a load of young lads get chances that season like Eastwood, Carr-Lawton etc so it could be one of those perhaps?
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Whenever I think of that game, I think of Neil Moore, who scored our winner. He was a very poor player really: no wonder we struggled so much.
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Think number 14 is Kevin Henderson, striker signed from non league.
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That's the one.Claret1205 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:47 amThink number 14 is Kevin Henderson, striker signed from non league.
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I think it might be Kevin Henderson who never really had the ability to play league football. Waddle bought him from Morpeth Town.jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:27 amWho’s our Number 14 in the video? I can’t for the life of me place him. At first (because of the hair) I thought it might be Chris Brass, but then the face is totally unrecognisable to me.
I know we had a load of young lads get chances that season like Eastwood, Carr-Lawton etc so it could be one of those perhaps?
edit - see claret1205 has already answered this.
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Turns out he did alright at Hartlepool so I'll have to take that back. Never good enough for what we wanted though.
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To be fair to Henderson he struggled with injuries a lot at Burnley.
Plus he had some very good strikers in front of him while at Burnley which was always going to limit his game time when he was fit.
Plus he had some very good strikers in front of him while at Burnley which was always going to limit his game time when he was fit.
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May I ask why, papa? For me, I saw Neil Moore as a decent signing when he arrived but it was very clear that his career was in a downward trajectory. He managed just a few games for Norwich before his arrival and was playing a handful of games for several teams prior, which suggested that he wasn’t able to nail down a regular place in a side.
I stand to be corrected but in terms of games played for a league club, he managed about fifty games for Burnley which is just about ONE season. I think that’s as high as it got (in terms of games played at a league club).
After leaving Burnley, his career trajectory continued to fall and I think he played most of his games by some way at Nuneaton.
In that Burnley side, I thought he was a poor fit, albeit with what looked like good leadership skills. He made a number of very costly errors, although he was surrounded by other players who also cost us a lot.
I hope this small message highlights that I do know a bit about your mate, but why being one of your best mates is important in the context of this discussion, is a bit strange.
Best wishes.
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Henderson played a bit the following season under Stan and scored a late equaliser in one home match. Would agree with Rowls though that he didn’t look good enough to play at that level.
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Quite worrying that Papabendi doesn't rate McNeil but did rate Neil Moore
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Was only a kid so remember being squashed down at the front. One advantage of being in the paddock was Nogan having to walk off in front of the Burnley end at full-time!
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Not his mate tho is heclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:19 amQuite worrying that Papabendi doesn't rate McNeil but did rate Neil Moore
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Thanks for posting this. One of my favourite away days.
The battles we had with PNE around those years and into the early 2000’s were titanic.
The battles we had with PNE around those years and into the early 2000’s were titanic.
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It was an odd side because there were a few gems in there (notable Payts and Little) but some real stinkers too.
There were a couple triers who gave their all and there were a few shirkers. By the end of the Waddle season we simply did not look like a professional outfit.
It took Stan a whole season just to shift the deadwood and turn the culture at the club around. Thank goodness for him and Kilby.
There were a couple triers who gave their all and there were a few shirkers. By the end of the Waddle season we simply did not look like a professional outfit.
It took Stan a whole season just to shift the deadwood and turn the culture at the club around. Thank goodness for him and Kilby.
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Claret1205 is correct with Kevin Henderson. This was two years before the FL introduced squad numbers so we’d have started with one to eleven. Henderson was the only sub used that day.jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:27 amWho’s our Number 14 in the video? I can’t for the life of me place him. At first (because of the hair) I thought it might be Chris Brass, but then the face is totally unrecognisable to me.
I know we had a load of young lads get chances that season like Eastwood, Carr-Lawton etc so it could be one of those perhaps?
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Anyone mentions Brian Reid and all I think of is another towering header at Lincoln
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I was there!Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:46 amAnyone mentions Brian Reid and all I think of is another towering header at Lincoln
A little bald-headed left back kept Little quiet all afternoon.
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Niel Moore was no world beater, but even at the time many fans took a dislike to Moore, As a centre half myself I never understood it. We had had far worse centre halves Heggarty and Zelam immediately spring to mind, he tried to organise the defence which had been our problem for years. He certainly wasn’t in the top twenty worst players we had in those years, for me at least, but like others before and around him (Swan and Winstanley did the same) when he got it wrong our defence was too much of a shambles to save him.
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I do miss these derby games
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Winstanley was a really unlucky player, every error he seemed to make (of which there were a few, granted!) seemed to get punished by a goal. I thought he was a decent enough player at the time.
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Moore was a decade after the others you mention. I’m not sure why Zelem springs to mind though, decent player who just suffered with injuries and was far better than Moore. Heggarty was the worst I’ve seen.elwaclaret wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:57 amNiel Moore was no world beater, but even at the time many fans took a dislike to Moore, As a centre half myself I never understood it. We had had far worse centre halves Heggarty and Zelam immediately spring to mind, he tried to organise the defence which had been our problem for years. He certainly wasn’t in the top twenty worst players we had in those years, for me at least, but like others before and around him (Swan and Winstanley did the same) when he got it wrong our defence was too much of a shambles to save him.
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Is it Winstanley that didn’t actually like football but it just so happened he was good enough to make it projedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:59 amWinstanley was a really unlucky player, every error he seemed to make (of which there were a few, granted!) seemed to get punished by a goal. I thought he was a decent enough player at the time.
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Moore was a trier and far from the worst we've seen. If he'd been in the side in the mid-80s he might very well have become a captain figure like Ray Deakin.
But he wasn't the best of players and Burnley FC needs better than was for us. He gave his all though and I've plenty of time for him.
Winstanley was good when he arrived and unacceptably bad by the time he left. Stan definitely made the right call on him. I don't have a lot of time for Winstanley.
But he wasn't the best of players and Burnley FC needs better than was for us. He gave his all though and I've plenty of time for him.
Winstanley was good when he arrived and unacceptably bad by the time he left. Stan definitely made the right call on him. I don't have a lot of time for Winstanley.
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Was a great game to be at, but I think some of the chants that Nogan got defo didn't help our reputation as a club at the time
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Broke my heart having Nogan become a hate figure. Along with Adie Randall and David Eyres, he was one of my first real favourite players. Fabulous finisher, bizarre how his career just died a death after Preston got promoted.
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Even saw to suggest Moore was the poor link in that squad is pushing it. I raise you Blatherwick.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:00 pmMoore was a decade after the others you mention. I’m not sure why Zelem springs to mind though, decent player who just suffered with injuries and was far better than Moore. Heggarty was the worst I’ve seen.
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Good striker Nogan. Often seen wondering around Panama Joe’s on his own on a Saturday night!jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:10 pmBroke my heart having Nogan become a hate figure. Along with Adie Randall and David Eyres, he was one of my first real favourite players. Fabulous finisher, bizarre how his career just died a death after Preston got promoted.
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He was never forgiven by a lot of fans for throwing his Burnley shirt on the muddy floor in front of the home crowd when he was substituted. He did well for us generally but was never universally popular as he was not willing to work back or fight for a ball.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:32 pmGood striker Nogan. Often seen wondering around Panama Joe’s on his own on a Saturday night!
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Nogan definitely was a good striker, even if his off field antics weren't always ultra professional. Having said that, the off field culture was very different back then.
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I think that he was alone in Panama Joe’s really said how the team felt about him. It was a regular sight seeing a huddle of five or six players tipping out of a taxi together in Accrington en route to Manchester or before that having a beer in Shifters.Dark Cloud wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:54 pmNogan definitely was a good striker, even if his off field antics weren't always ultra professional. Having said that, the off field culture was very different back then.
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Never saw enough of Zelem to rate him. I did see enough of Jim Heggarty and i most certainly didn't rate him. Someone i worked with knew him and i am pretty sure he cleared off to work in a family run hotel in Brighton or something similar and was told he was paid more at the hotel than he was at BFC.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:00 pmMoore was a decade after the others you mention. I’m not sure why Zelem springs to mind though, decent player who just suffered with injuries and was far better than Moore. Heggarty was the worst I’ve seen.
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I'd agree more with Elwa, that whilst Moore was no world beater, he was miles ahead of Blatherwick, Howey, Ford and a bit better than BloodyEllWinstanley. Brian Reid was decent for the level we were at wasn't he? And when supplemented with Rune Vindheim and Tow Cowan gave the team more stability.
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Cooke, Payton and Weller were always out together in Accy. As said above, it was a strange team that.. a few that were good Championship players and a whole load who would soon be doing well to get a game in League Two.elwaclaret wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:00 pmI think that he was alone in Panama Joe’s really said how the team felt about him. It was a regular sight seeing a huddle of five or six players tipping out of a taxi together in Accrington en route to Manchester or before that having a beer in Shifters.