Why would I name anyone when I think your narrow definition of 'easiest' is idioticNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:57 amBecause surely if there are no repercussions then the roles is easy?
Again if you think there is an easier one then highlight it?
Would they come for Dyche
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Re: Would they come for Dyche
Define easier.
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Not by your definition because it's moronic
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Gary Neville. Hes got plenty to say and seems to know everything.
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But it does matter how he performs. Your point is stupid.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:11 amOk Taio what is your definition of an easy managers role?
I can’t think of anything easier than having a job where it does not matter how you perform
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Newcastle - Bruce was done, you could see it and the owners have big plans.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:14 amClearly it doesn’t as managers at similar level clubs.
Newcastle, Norwich, Villa etc…. Have all lost there jobs for performing to a similar standard
Villa - big plans, big money and Smith couldn't get a tune out of the team without Grealish.
Norwich - bouncing up and down, but Farke was possibly the fall guy instead of the director of football who's been making the signings etc.
All easily explained.
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I would suggest it's multifaceted and includes things like the financial resources available and the extent to which a manager has overachieved or under-achieved. It should certainly not be based on the likelihood of a manager being sacked - for a start Dyche has earned the right to be in a secure position based on the very fact that keeping Burnley in the PL is anything but easy.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:11 amOk Taio what is your definition of an easy managers role?
I can’t think of anything easier than having a job where it does not matter how you perform
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I get more engagement from my four year old. I’m out.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:14 amClearly it doesn’t as managers at similar level clubs.
Newcastle, Norwich, Villa etc…. Have all lost there jobs for performing to a similar standard
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It very much appears you can’t answer so have thrown toys out of the pram.
I am a big Dyche fan I don’t want him to lose his job by any stretch of the imagination.
I am merely highlighting how ridiculous it is that some of our fans think he could go to United. This is the easiest role in the Prem for Dyche. He controls everything football related, has the say on signings, then it doesn’t matter how he performs as he won’t lose his job anyway.
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So Dyche having more control is easier?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:19 amIt very much appears you can’t answer so have thrown toys out of the pram.
I am a big Dyche fan I don’t want him to lose his job by any stretch of the imagination.
I am merely highlighting how ridiculous it is that some of our fans think he could go to United. This is the easiest role in the Prem for Dyche. He controls everything football related, has the say on signings, then it doesn’t matter how he performs as he won’t lose his job anyway.
I'm pretty sure it isn't but hey ho
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Your right DJ it’s much easier for managers getting results when they have no say on transfers etc…GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:35 amSo Dyche having more control is easier?
I'm pretty sure it isn't but hey ho
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Yeah, they only have to focus on the players they've got.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:38 amYour right DJ it’s much easier for managers getting results when they have no say on transfers etc…
They don't have to concern themselves with scouting players, youth set ups, training ground etc.
They've got a lot less responsibility than Dyche.
It's clear you're not really aware of that just from your comments today, but yeah you're a big fan of Dyche ....
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DJ if my comments are so in accurate why has not one poster named an easier role?GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:48 amYeah, they only have to focus on the players they've got.
They don't have to concern themselves with scouting players, youth set ups, training ground etc.
They've got a lot less responsibility than Dyche.
It's clear you're not really aware of that just from your comments today, but yeah you're a big fan of Dyche ....
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You still do not get it in what is the most basic of points - people don't agree with you inane definition that easiest should just be measured against the likelihood of a manager being sacked. In any case Dyche has earned the right to have a secure job because he has exceeded everyone's expectations...unless of course you think Burnley staying in the PL season after season is easy.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:50 amDJ if my comments are so in accurate why has not one poster named an easier role?
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None of the roles are easy. They're all equally difficult but in different ways, depending on the size of the club, expectations, finance etc.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:50 amDJ if my comments are so in accurate why has not one poster named an easier role?
Having said that, I have little sympathy for any manager who gets the boot, as the pay off usually ensures they don't need to work again if they don't want to.
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I have asked you to name an easier one based on your view of what the definition of easy is.taio wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:55 amYou still do not get it in what is the most basic of points - people don't agree with you inane definition that easiest should just be measured against the likelihood of a manager being sacked. In any case Dyche has earned the right to have a secure job because he has exceeded everyone's expectations...unless of course you think Burnley staying in the PL season after season is easy.
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You've set no parameters, yet you continue to ask which role is easier.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:50 amDJ if my comments are so in accurate why has not one poster named an easier role?
I've pointed out the differences between 3 clubs you've mentioned already, when compared to Burnley.
Tell us why you think Dyche's job at Burnley is easier than other clubs first, so we then have a base point.
His results in a calender year, which is your new narrative, aren't really much to work with because Farke had worse results over 1.5 seasons of PL football with Norwich so you're already on the back foot.
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I’d say Dyche is under the least pressure of any club in the Prem except for Frank at Brentford perhaps. I think that’s what Newcastle is meaning in a roundabout way.
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The long term financial future of the Burnley football club requires the club to remain in the PL for as long as possible, something people have repeatedly expressed concerns about in regards to the takeover.Winstonswhite wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:21 pmI’d say Dyche is under the least pressure of any club in the Prem except for Frank at Brentford perhaps. I think that’s what Newcastle is meaning in a roundabout way.
Brentford have a shed load of debt and an extended run in the PL would be a good thing for them.
Similar pressures albeit slightly different.
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You don't give up do you?!Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:50 amDJ if my comments are so in accurate why has not one poster named an easier role?
Easy isn't keeping a very small club, relatively, in the league every season
Easy isn't managing a tiny squad, with limited options , to over achieve every single week
Easy isn't pulling rabbits out of a hat to get players to sign for us
Easy isnt doing everything he has done for the last ten years
If it were that easy, every single manager would be in the Premier league
Easy doesn't mean less risk of losing your job
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my Dyche comment was very much tongue in cheek but the "big" manager failed because of his ego and attitude - he won them a trophy and got them to second, however Ole was only a spot kick away from matching his record of a trophy winNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:24 amDoesn’t that just exasperate KRs point. If one of the best managers ever wasn’t successful at United then I’m not sure Dyche is the best option haha.
This board is great sometimes. In the last three weeks I’ve seen posts That Brownhill is better than Pogba. Tarks is better than Varane and now Dyche should be considered for United.
You would think Burnley are pushing for too 4 places given all that.
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Carricks had a first game win.
I'm guessing a 3 year contract has been drawn up tonight, just waiting for his signature...
I'm guessing a 3 year contract has been drawn up tonight, just waiting for his signature...
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Just about every manager in the Pl mate. Dyche has done a remarkably difficult job and to suggest he is on easy street smacks of a wind up. And to say his job is more secure is overlooking the fact that we now have new owners who may have less patience than the old regime.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:04 pmI have asked you to name an easier one based on your view of what the definition of easy is.
Secure is one thing. Easy is a completely different concept. To be in prison is to be in a secure environment but I don’t think anyone would describe it as easy.