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Re: MotD
As much as I like Vydra, he's just not a good goal scorer.
Any decent Burnley forward over the last 10 years, scores that at the end.
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Re: MotD
Yep, sadly. I like him & he offers something we don’t otherwise have, but doesn’t score enough of his chances.Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:02 amAs much as I like Vydra, he's just not a good goal scorer.
Any decent Burnley forward over the last 10 years, scores that at the end.
Hope we go in for Tyrese Campbell in January- he looks a finisher!
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Terrible attempt at a finish. It was basically a scuff.
Should have taken the net off.
Keeper shouldn't have seen it.
I too like Vyds, but his finishing leaves a lot to be desired.
Which is why his arse is usually plonked on the bench.
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Re: MotD
Give Vyds a break ,a great take down a nanosecond to shoot and a very good save by the keeper
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Re: MotD
I'm one who doesn't get on the backs of any player wearing our shirt but, he's cost us 4 points with two last minute chance in consecutive games. Strikers are paid to put the ball in the back of the net!Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:26 amGive Vyds a break ,a great take down a nanosecond to shoot and a very good save by the keeper
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Tend to agree as in Vydra consistently shows great movement, pace and control and defenses don't like him, especially because he's so different to what they expect from Burnley. His take down at the end was brilliant, BUT he's paid to then bang it in the net and he didn't and that's been his problem throughout his time with us unfortunately.
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Let’s not be silly. Vydra should score but Barnes wouldn’t be anywhere near creating that chance never mind finishing it!
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Re: MotD
This (sadly)arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:16 amLet’s not be silly. Vydra should score but Barnes wouldn’t be anywhere near creating that chance never mind finishing it!
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Vydra's first touch was first class. Barnes might not have had the deftness to do that.arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:16 amLet’s not be silly. Vydra should score but Barnes wouldn’t be anywhere near creating that chance never mind finishing it!
However, Barnes might well have thwacked it into the back of the net.
Both players have their strengths. Neither of them is a Ronaldo, Messi, Greenwood or Foden and that's why they're playing for Burnley.
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What difference does it make? Vydra didn’t score the chance anyway.arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:16 amLet’s not be silly. Vydra should score but Barnes wouldn’t be anywhere near creating that chance never mind finishing it!
Vydra has been such a waste of money at 15m. Need to improve on him in January. As the other poster mentioned Tyrese Campbell would be a great signing
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15m? You just making stuff up nowNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:28 amWhat difference does it make? Vydra didn’t score the chance anyway.
Vydra has been such a waste of money at 15m. Need to improve on him in January. As the other poster mentioned Tyrese Campbell would be a great signing
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Re: MotD
I can’t believe that cornet’s goal wasn’t mentioned in the analysis.
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Re: MotD
Tyrese scored them goals when he was 18 and 19.
Vydra scored his goals later in his career. Campbell is a much better striker.
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Re: MotD
I think he was unfortunate, if you watch it close up in slow motion, he hits it just as the ball lands on the second bounce, and scuffs it, even scuffed he hit it too close to the keeper though.
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Re: MotD
Erm, I was responding to a comment saying Barnes would have scored it.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:28 amWhat difference does it make? Vydra didn’t score the chance anyway.
Vydra has been such a waste of money at 15m. Need to improve on him in January. As the other poster mentioned Tyrese Campbell would be a great signing
I’ll apply your logic instead and change my post to say “no he wouldn’t he was sat down 60 yards away”.
Is that better?
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Re: MotD
The flip side being he was in the right place at the right time to knick the equaliser at Chelsea. I'll cut him a bit of slack for yesterday because it was a sublime touch to create the chance for himself in the 1st placeRalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:50 amI'm one who doesn't get on the backs of any player wearing our shirt but, he's cost us 4 points with two last minute chance in consecutive games. Strikers are paid to put the ball in the back of the net!
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Re: MotD
Andre Gray's first touch would have gone out for a goal kick.Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:02 amAs much as I like Vydra, he's just not a good goal scorer.
Any decent Burnley forward over the last 10 years, scores that at the end.
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He showed real quality in the touch he took to create the chance, and I thought he should have gone the other side of the keeper, but you have to put that down to a good save rather than a miss.
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I'd agree with this but...arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:16 amLet’s not be silly. Vydra should score but Barnes wouldn’t be anywhere near creating that chance never mind finishing it!
I too have been a great supporter of Vyds and been disappointed by how little 'game time' he's been given during his time here; I've also been one of those who've attributed his weakness in finishing too this lack of game time. However, I have of late begun to concede that I've perhaps had it arse about face - which is why SD & his coaching team select players not me - and that the reason Vyds has never been getting picked is that he just can't score goals; yes, he's far and away better than Ashley Barnes and indeed Jay Rod at creating the chances, but for whatever reason, he can't turn those chances into goals and in the final analysis, a player creating creating ten chances a season and converting half of them, is better than someone creating twenty but and converting only one in ten. I've reached the point where I'm no longer bothered that Vyds is leaving at the end of the season.
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Re: MotD
He scuffed his shot, which made it much easier for the keeper. Therefore it was a bad miss.Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:49 amHe showed real quality in the touch he took to create the chance, and I thought he should have gone the other side of the keeper, but you have to put that down to a good save rather than a miss.
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Regarding the Newcastle game Shearer wasn't particularly complimentary regarding Howe's defensive skills was he?
Saying they were great going forward, but didn't have a clue how(e) to defend.
Where have we seen that before?
Saying they were great going forward, but didn't have a clue how(e) to defend.
Where have we seen that before?
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Saw a defensive display on the Turf yesterday just as bad.
Howe has been in the job one week, get a grip.
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What did you hear Shearer say specifically about Howe's defensive skills?
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Re: MotD
It's not a miss despite the poor execution if guiata leaves it it's a goal, vydra just made it easier than it should have been by the contact.fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:11 amHe scuffed his shot, which made it much easier for the keeper. Therefore it was a bad miss.
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What a silly comment. Why would Guaita just "leave it"?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:56 amIt's not a miss despite the poor execution if guiata leaves it it's a goal, vydra just made it easier than it should have been by the contact.
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I don’t think Sheraer was critical of Howe per say he was critical of Newcastles defending full stop. Maybe 1 or 2 putting 2 and 2 together and comping with a random number. He did say that he has a lot of hard work to get them more solid at the back.
For what it is worth I think Eddie will be a decent fit for them they seem to like high scoring games.
For what it is worth I think Eddie will be a decent fit for them they seem to like high scoring games.
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Because he had to because it was goal bound because it wasn't missed it was on target just poorly directed without sufficient power. A miss is when you don't make the goalkeeper do anything guiata had to do something to stop a certain goal.fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:58 amWhat a silly comment. Why would Guita just "leave it"?
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Semantics from you as usual.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:01 pmBecause he had to because it was goal bound because it wasn't missed it was on target just poorly directed without sufficient power. A miss is when you don't make the goalkeeper do anything guiata had to do something to stop a certain goal.
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Or you disagreeing with facts, none so blind that them that refuse to see or something along them lines as the old saying goes.
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Not at all. A wasted chance can usually be seen as a good save or a bad miss. In this case (Vydra), it has to be seen as the latter because he simply scuffed it.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:05 pmOr you disagreeing with facts, none so blind that them that refuse to see or something along them lines as the old saying goes.
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The keeper did make the save but Vydra put it within a yard of him; you’d expect any PL level keeper to make the save so close to his starting position when there was no power on the shot. I think he was trying to bend it around the keeper and just miss hit it, unfortunately.Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:49 amHe showed real quality in the touch he took to create the chance, and I thought he should have gone the other side of the keeper, but you have to put that down to a good save rather than a miss.