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MotD

Post by Bosscat » Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:20 pm

Someone wake me up when we are on 🤔

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Re: MotD

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:25 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:20 pm
Someone wake me up when we are on 🤔
WAKEY WAKEY!

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Re: MotD

Post by NewClaret » Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:38 pm

Shearer & Wright as perplexed as us as to why that wasn’t a foul/red.

Vydra’s miss was worse than I thought. Weak side foot effort. If he’d put his laces through that it’s a certain goal.

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Re: MotD

Post by IanMcL » Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:54 pm

Prem rules again....not Burnley.

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Re: MotD

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:02 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:38 pm
Shearer & Wright as perplexed as us as to why that wasn’t a foul/red.

Vydra’s miss was worse than I thought. Weak side foot effort. If he’d put his laces through that it’s a certain goal.
As much as I like Vydra, he's just not a good goal scorer.

Any decent Burnley forward over the last 10 years, scores that at the end.

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Re: MotD

Post by chipbutty » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:16 am

If that was Benteke or Zaha they would have buried that chance and won the game.

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Re: MotD

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:17 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:54 pm
Prem rules again....not Burnley.
Yawn.

:roll:

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Re: MotD

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:20 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:02 am
As much as I like Vydra, he's just not a good goal scorer.

Any decent Burnley forward over the last 10 years, scores that at the end.
Yep, sadly. I like him & he offers something we don’t otherwise have, but doesn’t score enough of his chances.

Hope we go in for Tyrese Campbell in January- he looks a finisher!

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Re: MotD

Post by IanMcL » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:49 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:17 am
Yawn.

:roll:
They are very consistent with it. Time you had some doubts about it all too!

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Re: MotD

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:57 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:49 am
They are very consistent with it. Time you had some doubts about it all too!
I don't doubt that officials get things wrong, just as I don't doubt that you're an idiot.

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Re: MotD

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:25 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:38 pm

Vydra’s miss was worse than I thought. Weak side foot effort. If he’d put his laces through that it’s a certain goal.
Terrible attempt at a finish. It was basically a scuff.
Should have taken the net off.
Keeper shouldn't have seen it.

I too like Vyds, but his finishing leaves a lot to be desired.
Which is why his arse is usually plonked on the bench.

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Re: MotD

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:26 am

Give Vyds a break ,a great take down a nanosecond to shoot and a very good save by the keeper

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Re: MotD

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:50 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:26 am
Give Vyds a break ,a great take down a nanosecond to shoot and a very good save by the keeper
I'm one who doesn't get on the backs of any player wearing our shirt but, he's cost us 4 points with two last minute chance in consecutive games. Strikers are paid to put the ball in the back of the net!
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Re: MotD

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:50 am

Tend to agree as in Vydra consistently shows great movement, pace and control and defenses don't like him, especially because he's so different to what they expect from Burnley. His take down at the end was brilliant, BUT he's paid to then bang it in the net and he didn't and that's been his problem throughout his time with us unfortunately.

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Re: MotD

Post by joey13 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:10 am

Barnes scores there , weak shot two games running

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Re: MotD

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:16 am

Let’s not be silly. Vydra should score but Barnes wouldn’t be anywhere near creating that chance never mind finishing it!
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Re: MotD

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:25 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:16 am
Let’s not be silly. Vydra should score but Barnes wouldn’t be anywhere near creating that chance never mind finishing it!
This (sadly)

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Re: MotD

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:28 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:16 am
Let’s not be silly. Vydra should score but Barnes wouldn’t be anywhere near creating that chance never mind finishing it!
Vydra's first touch was first class. Barnes might not have had the deftness to do that.

However, Barnes might well have thwacked it into the back of the net.

Both players have their strengths. Neither of them is a Ronaldo, Messi, Greenwood or Foden and that's why they're playing for Burnley.

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Re: MotD

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:28 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:16 am
Let’s not be silly. Vydra should score but Barnes wouldn’t be anywhere near creating that chance never mind finishing it!
What difference does it make? Vydra didn’t score the chance anyway.

Vydra has been such a waste of money at 15m. Need to improve on him in January. As the other poster mentioned Tyrese Campbell would be a great signing

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Re: MotD

Post by RVclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:33 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:28 am
What difference does it make? Vydra didn’t score the chance anyway.

Vydra has been such a waste of money at 15m. Need to improve on him in January. As the other poster mentioned Tyrese Campbell would be a great signing
15m? You just making stuff up now :?

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Re: MotD

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:36 am

I can’t believe that cornet’s goal wasn’t mentioned in the analysis.
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Re: MotD

Post by RVclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:37 am

Just to add, seen as though you think Tyrese Campbell should be targeted - he has 16 goals in 61 championship appearances. Pretty sure Vydra’s record in that league was better.

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Re: MotD

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:44 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:37 am
Just to add, seen as though you think Tyrese Campbell should be targeted - he has 16 goals in 61 championship appearances. Pretty sure Vydra’s record in that league was better.
Tyrese scored them goals when he was 18 and 19.
Vydra scored his goals later in his career. Campbell is a much better striker.

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Re: MotD

Post by claretandy » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:56 am

I think he was unfortunate, if you watch it close up in slow motion, he hits it just as the ball lands on the second bounce, and scuffs it, even scuffed he hit it too close to the keeper though.

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Re: MotD

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:56 am

Just caught up in MOTD

Disappointed they didn’t show the Tarky incident (they would have done if either he or Zaha had got a second yellow later on)

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Re: MotD

Post by Terrier » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:20 am

Hero at chelsea a few wk back and now not good enough.

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Re: MotD

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:27 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:28 am
What difference does it make? Vydra didn’t score the chance anyway.

Vydra has been such a waste of money at 15m. Need to improve on him in January. As the other poster mentioned Tyrese Campbell would be a great signing
Erm, I was responding to a comment saying Barnes would have scored it.

I’ll apply your logic instead and change my post to say “no he wouldn’t he was sat down 60 yards away”.

Is that better?

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Re: MotD

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:27 am

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:50 am
I'm one who doesn't get on the backs of any player wearing our shirt but, he's cost us 4 points with two last minute chance in consecutive games. Strikers are paid to put the ball in the back of the net!
The flip side being he was in the right place at the right time to knick the equaliser at Chelsea. I'll cut him a bit of slack for yesterday because it was a sublime touch to create the chance for himself in the 1st place

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Re: MotD

Post by bobinho » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:30 am

joey13 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:10 am
Barnes scores there , weak shot two games running
Barnes doesn’t even get there these days…. He’d still be picking himself up from the imaginary foul from the defender…
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Re: MotD

Post by houseboy » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:45 am

joey13 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:10 am
Barnes scores there , weak shot two games running
Who??? 😂

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Re: MotD

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:47 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:02 am
As much as I like Vydra, he's just not a good goal scorer.

Any decent Burnley forward over the last 10 years, scores that at the end.
Andre Gray's first touch would have gone out for a goal kick.

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Re: MotD

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:49 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:38 pm
Shearer & Wright as perplexed as us as to why that wasn’t a foul/red.

Vydra’s miss was worse than I thought. Weak side foot effort. If he’d put his laces through that it’s a certain goal.
He showed real quality in the touch he took to create the chance, and I thought he should have gone the other side of the keeper, but you have to put that down to a good save rather than a miss.

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Re: MotD

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:08 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:16 am
Let’s not be silly. Vydra should score but Barnes wouldn’t be anywhere near creating that chance never mind finishing it!
I'd agree with this but...
I too have been a great supporter of Vyds and been disappointed by how little 'game time' he's been given during his time here; I've also been one of those who've attributed his weakness in finishing too this lack of game time. However, I have of late begun to concede that I've perhaps had it arse about face - which is why SD & his coaching team select players not me - and that the reason Vyds has never been getting picked is that he just can't score goals; yes, he's far and away better than Ashley Barnes and indeed Jay Rod at creating the chances, but for whatever reason, he can't turn those chances into goals and in the final analysis, a player creating creating ten chances a season and converting half of them, is better than someone creating twenty but and converting only one in ten. I've reached the point where I'm no longer bothered that Vyds is leaving at the end of the season.

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Re: MotD

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:11 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:49 am
He showed real quality in the touch he took to create the chance, and I thought he should have gone the other side of the keeper, but you have to put that down to a good save rather than a miss.
He scuffed his shot, which made it much easier for the keeper. Therefore it was a bad miss.

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Re: MotD

Post by Spijed » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:10 am

Regarding the Newcastle game Shearer wasn't particularly complimentary regarding Howe's defensive skills was he?

Saying they were great going forward, but didn't have a clue how(e) to defend.

Where have we seen that before? ;)

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Re: MotD

Post by tiger76 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:45 am

Spijed wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:10 am
Regarding the Newcastle game Shearer wasn't particularly complimentary regarding Howe's defensive skills was he?

Saying they were great going forward, but didn't have a clue how(e) to defend.

Where have we seen that before? ;)
TBF after our defensive display yesterday we're hardly in a position to slate other teams defending are we.
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Re: MotD

Post by RVclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:48 am

Spijed wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:10 am
Regarding the Newcastle game Shearer wasn't particularly complimentary regarding Howe's defensive skills was he?

Saying they were great going forward, but didn't have a clue how(e) to defend.

Where have we seen that before? ;)
Saw a defensive display on the Turf yesterday just as bad.

Howe has been in the job one week, get a grip.

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Re: MotD

Post by taio » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:50 am

Spijed wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:10 am
Regarding the Newcastle game Shearer wasn't particularly complimentary regarding Howe's defensive skills was he?

Saying they were great going forward, but didn't have a clue how(e) to defend.

Where have we seen that before? ;)
What did you hear Shearer say specifically about Howe's defensive skills?

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Re: MotD

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:56 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:11 am
He scuffed his shot, which made it much easier for the keeper. Therefore it was a bad miss.
It's not a miss despite the poor execution if guiata leaves it it's a goal, vydra just made it easier than it should have been by the contact.

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Re: MotD

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:58 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:56 am
It's not a miss despite the poor execution if guiata leaves it it's a goal, vydra just made it easier than it should have been by the contact.
What a silly comment. Why would Guaita just "leave it"?

:?: :shock:

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Re: MotD

Post by JarrowClaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:59 am

I don’t think Sheraer was critical of Howe per say he was critical of Newcastles defending full stop. Maybe 1 or 2 putting 2 and 2 together and comping with a random number. He did say that he has a lot of hard work to get them more solid at the back.

For what it is worth I think Eddie will be a decent fit for them they seem to like high scoring games.

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Re: MotD

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:01 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:58 am
What a silly comment. Why would Guita just "leave it"?

:?: :shock:
Because he had to because it was goal bound because it wasn't missed it was on target just poorly directed without sufficient power. A miss is when you don't make the goalkeeper do anything guiata had to do something to stop a certain goal.

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Re: MotD

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:03 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:01 pm
Because he had to because it was goal bound because it wasn't missed it was on target just poorly directed without sufficient power. A miss is when you don't make the goalkeeper do anything guiata had to do something to stop a certain goal.
Semantics from you as usual.

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Re: MotD

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:05 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:03 pm
Semantics from you as usual.
Or you disagreeing with facts, none so blind that them that refuse to see or something along them lines as the old saying goes.

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Re: MotD

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:07 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:05 pm
Or you disagreeing with facts, none so blind that them that refuse to see or something along them lines as the old saying goes.
Not at all. A wasted chance can usually be seen as a good save or a bad miss. In this case (Vydra), it has to be seen as the latter because he simply scuffed it.

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Re: MotD

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:33 pm

Watching on catch up and am wetting myself at Joelinton's impression of Devon Loch yesterday.

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Re: MotD

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:55 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:49 am
He showed real quality in the touch he took to create the chance, and I thought he should have gone the other side of the keeper, but you have to put that down to a good save rather than a miss.
The keeper did make the save but Vydra put it within a yard of him; you’d expect any PL level keeper to make the save so close to his starting position when there was no power on the shot. I think he was trying to bend it around the keeper and just miss hit it, unfortunately. :(

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Re: MotD

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:19 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:33 pm
Watching on catch up and am wetting myself at Joelinton's impression of Devon Loch yesterday.
He’s hilariously bad.

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Re: MotD

Post by IanMcL » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:57 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:57 am
I don't doubt that officials get things wrong, just as I don't doubt that you're an idiot.
Juvenile response there!

Unnecessary to insult.

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Re: MotD

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:10 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:57 pm
Juvenile response there!

Unnecessary to insult.
This from a man who posts the infantile madge gifs.

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