Southgate signs New England contract

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Southgate signs New England contract

Post by LoveCurryPies » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:08 pm

England manager Gareth Southgate has signed a new contract to keep him in the role until December 2024.

Is this a good decision?

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Tribesmen » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:09 pm

Yep i think it is , as he has done well looking at him as an outsider you could say .

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:10 pm

Suppose that gives me another 3 years of having no interest in international football.
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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by LoveCurryPies » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:12 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:10 pm
Suppose that gives me another 3 years of having no interest in international football.

Why do you feel like that?

England have won 44 of their 68 matches under Southgate, with 14 defeats and 10 draws.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:13 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:12 pm
Why do you feel like that?

England have won 44 of their 68 matches under Southgate, with 14 defeats and 10 draws.
Also have just broken a record for most goals scored in a calendar year.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:13 pm

Best news possible.

Best England manager for years.

Here’s to winning The Qatar World Cup
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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:13 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:12 pm
Why do you feel like that?

England have won 44 of their 68 matches under Southgate, with 14 defeats and 10 draws.
How many as he won that weren't expected?

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:14 pm

Best news possible.

Best England manager for years.

Here’s to winning The Qatar World Cup

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Stan Tastic » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:16 pm

I was hoping United would take him.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:20 pm

World cup semi finalists

European Championship finalist

He's make qualifying for tournaments looks like a breeze

Keep it going Gareth

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:21 pm

Hope he can progress this side by introducing the generational talents of Bellingham and TAA into the first team.

I’d like to see this as a starting 11:

———-—Pickford——————-
—James Stones Maguire—-
TAA —————————Chilwell
——Bellingham Rice—————
—Foden —————Sterling——
—————-Kane————————-

That teams wins the World Cup.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by gtclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:21 pm

I thought New England was a place in USA

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:22 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:13 pm
Best news possible.

Best England manager for years.

Here’s to winning The Qatar World Cup
This.

He's shown clear signs of moving England forwards and he will be a better manager going into Qatar than he was at the Euros, because he's got that big game experience now.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by bumba » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:22 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:13 pm
How many as he won that weren't expected?
Seriously the answer is ZERO!!

Beat Holland in a friendly in 2018 who were a poor Holland, we beat a very poor Germany in the euros.

We haven't beaten any other top side under Southgate and have lost games we shouldn't lose when they mattered.

He's the English Ole, likeable but not good enough to win at the very top regardless of the talent available.
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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by bumba » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:23 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:20 pm
World cup semi finalists

European Championship finalist

He's make qualifying for tournaments looks like a breeze

Keep it going Gareth

We lost three games at that world cup, don't be fooled

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by gtclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:24 pm

On a serious note, England have been blassed with the best range of talent for many years. I'm not too sure that we will see the full potential with SG in charge

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Peter Loo » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:09 pm

Stan Tastic wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:16 pm
I was hoping United would take him.
The took the words out of my mouth :)

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:13 pm

Stan Tastic wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:16 pm
I was hoping United would take him.
He isn't the right man for Utd.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:18 pm

You can’t argue against his record with England but I do sometimes wonder at his team selection, formation and style of play. He is lucky though in that he is benefiting from a conveyor belt of talent to choose from.
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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Peter Loo » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:21 pm

Peter Loo wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:09 pm
The took the words out of my mouth :)
Lousy non-edit correction post :roll:

You and not The :D

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:22 pm

Southgate is the press choice with his media picked team
In what world are Ramsgate, Mings,Maguire,Abraham and Bellingham international standard?

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Rowls » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm

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*sigh*

I've got a recurrent nightmare where he becomes Burnley boss when Sean Dyche eventually moves on.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:25 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:22 pm
Southgate is the press choice with his media picked team
In what world are Ramsgate, Mings,Maguire,Abraham and Bellingham international standard?
Genuinely starting to believe this a meme account

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:44 pm

Was the comment due to me not slavishly agreeing with Southgate as manager and the overrated media picks ?

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:59 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:25 pm
Genuinely starting to believe this a meme account
:lol: He/she is hilarious

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:05 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:22 pm
Southgate is the press choice with his media picked team
In what world are Ramsgate, Mings,Maguire,Abraham and Bellingham international standard?
In what way do the media pick those players?

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by claretandy » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:09 pm

Hasn't been linked with any better jobs, says it all.
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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:19 pm

I'm not his biggest fan but he represents the Country well and has done pretty well on the pitch. I'm not seeing a better option than him at the moment BUT the FA will look incredibly foolish should we flop in Qatar

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:20 pm

The sensible thing to do was to wait and see how the World cup goes
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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:24 pm

I don't agree with a lot of Southgate picks but Bellingham looks a superstar in the making to me. So much upper body strength for a youngster.

If he carries on developing like he has, he could be the difference in England winning something.

Him and Rice could form a great midfield if he continues with the two sitters.
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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:29 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:24 pm
I don't agree with a lot of Southgate picks but Bellingham looks a superstar in the making to me. So much upper body strength for a youngster.

If he carries on developing like he has, he could be the difference in England winning something.

Him and Rice could form a great midfield if he continues with the two sitters.
Absolutely, he is class and looks to have it all. Keane’s recent quote was ‘can see why he wears number 22 for Dortmund as he’s a 4, 8 and 10 all at once’. A ‘right’ side of James (RCB), TAA (wing back), Bellingham (RCM) and Foden (RAM) would be incredible.
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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Winstonswhite » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:51 pm

How anyone can say Bellingham isn’t international class can’t possibly have watched him play. He’s bossing the midfield of a team gunning for the Bundesliga title having just turned 18. To put into context, that’s 7 years younger than Phillips and nearly 5 years younger than Rice :lol:

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Andreshotboots » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:56 pm

I guess there is a lot more to come from these England boys and the FA see Southgate as the man to do the job.

Let’s not forget, a lot of these lads aren’t, or have only just become regular first choices for their clubs let alone country..

The future is very bright for England..

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:12 pm

I don't watch much International football, but with the constant chopping and changing of the teams, blooding in youngsters, looking a different players etc, it doesn't feel like there is much consistency.

However, you cant grumble at what Southgate has achieved, semi final of the World Cup, Final of the European Championships and now qualification for Qatar. I'd find it hard to understand why he wouldn't be offered a new contract.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:47 pm

Btw Bellingham just got runner up in World Golden Boy (Pedri at Barca first). But WoodleyClaret says he isn’t good enough for England. :D

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by SalisburyClaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:04 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:20 pm
The sensible thing to do was to wait and see how the World cup goes
Exactly - complete lunacy to offer a contract to anyone at this stage
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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:00 pm

Some fans clearly are seduced by the hype rather than actual ability but what do I know I've only watch football for 65yrs long before Sky and its "experts " got involved in the game

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:06 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:04 pm
Exactly - complete lunacy to offer a contract to anyone at this stage
Using that logic, you could say the same about any football manager, including Dyche.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by MACCA » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:07 pm

Probably just enough time to scupper the next couple of tournaments, and nullify the best group of up and coming talent the country has ever seen.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Darthlaw » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:32 pm

Makes sense.

Southgate won't get a better job, England won't attract a better manager.

We'll continue to smash no-marks on the international stage and, as long as the draws continue to be kind to him to see him progress far enough, Southgate will keep folk content.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by houseboy » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:35 pm

I don’t understand, or rather I think I might. You can only judge a manager by his record. Southgate s record is second only to Ramsey. People moaning obviously choose to ignore his record or call it lucky in some way. Sure he has a good crop of players, so what? Ferguson got lucky at United with a crop of players but he is supposedly the best club manager ever. Apparently we haven’t played anyone ‘good’, so when we beat Germany they were a ‘poor’ Germany. Southgate is the best thing that happened to England in decades, his record stands out a mile.
The reason many on here don’t like him, illogically, is quite simple: for whatever reason he has he doesn’t pick Burnley players who they think he should pick. There’s nothing more, just petty sulking in my opinion.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by houseboy » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:39 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:32 pm
Makes sense.

Southgate won't get a better job, England won't attract a better manager.

We'll continue to smash no-marks on the international stage and, as long as the draws continue to be kind to him to see him progress far enough, Southgate will keep folk content.
Have you ever heard the phrase ‘you can only play what’s put in front of you’? Southgate doesn’t make the draws and I’m pretty sure he’s not bribing people.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by bfcjg » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:43 pm

I just find him boring and at times tactically timid. Blessed with some real talent so fingers crossed he's learnt from his big game mistakes.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Darthlaw » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:46 pm

houseboy wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:39 pm
Have you ever heard the phrase ‘you can only play what’s put in front of you’? Southgate doesn’t make the draws and I’m pretty sure he’s not bribing people.
Wasn't a slight on Southgate at all. I was just pointing out what he (and basically every other England manager) does. Beat no marks, get dumped out by good teams. Throw Glen, Sven, Fabio and Roy into the same bracket.

Only ones who couldn't even manage that were Keegan and McClaren and they got rightly hoofed.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Darthlaw » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:52 pm

houseboy wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:35 pm
so when we beat Germany they were a ‘poor’ Germany.
The same Germany that had just been beaten by North Macedonia, won one game in the group and didnt even make knockout in the previous world cup in a group with South Korea and Mexico.

It's fair to suggest it was a 'poor' Germany. Even more so the way they played against England.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by houseboy » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:48 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:46 pm
Wasn't a slight on Southgate at all. I was just pointing out what he (and basically every other England manager) does. Beat no marks, get dumped out by good teams. Throw Glen, Sven, Fabio and Roy into the same bracket.

Only ones who couldn't even manage that were Keegan and McClaren and they got rightly hoofed.
Not sure getting beat on penalties by a very good Italy in a major final is a bad result mate. Semis and final in consecutive major finals hasn’t been achieved by any England manager before. You don’t get that lucky. Even the much vaunted and strangely well loved Venables managed only one semi (no pun intended 😊). Personally I thought Venables was a waste of space but that is just my view. Why can’t people just accept Southgate? Will people still be saying he’s rubbish if he makes a third semi or even wins it? The problem for his detractors is if he wins Qatar he will officially be far and away the best manager we have ever had. By a mile.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by houseboy » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:51 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:52 pm
The same Germany that had just been beaten by North Macedonia, won one game in the group and didnt even make knockout in the previous world cup in a group with South Korea and Mexico.

It's fair to suggest it was a 'poor' Germany. Even more so the way they played against England.
But they were there to be beaten and we beat them. It’s not Southgate’s fault how bad or good Germany were.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Darthlaw » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:58 pm

The Semi final and final headlines will of course keep certain fans happy who choose to ignore the detail. Like ignoring how poor England were in that game against Italy, or Southgates bizarre subs and choice of penalty takers.

Southgate’s team has hammered dross like Panama but lost to Belgium (twice), battered Ukraine but beaten by Italy. The detail is England lose to the big teams in tournaments, regardless of the manager.

I accept Southgate as he is fit for purpose as I’ve already said. Proof is in the fact he wouldn’t even get a sniff of a PL job.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by Darthlaw » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:58 pm

houseboy wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:51 pm
But they were there to be beaten and we beat them. It’s not Southgate’s fault how bad or good Germany were.
As long as you now admit they were poor, it’s a start.

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Re: Southgate signs New England contract

Post by houseboy » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:56 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:58 pm
As long as you now admit they were poor, it’s a start.
Germany are never a bad side…ever. Even a ‘bad’ Germany are better than most. Are you however admitting that Southgate is possibly the best manager we’ve had? Ramsey won the World Cup but never achieved the consistency Southgate has. Look at our standing now. I would fancy us to give absolutely anyone a game now and I can’t remember saying that since Ramsey. When he got the job I thought the FA had taken leave of its senses. I was wrong and so my friend are you.

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