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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Backofthenet » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:43 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:36 pm
It was not snowing heavily by that stage and it would have demonstrated the forecast (that the snow would die down then stop) was very probably correct.

Waiting half an hour would have been enough to say the pitch could be cleared without worrying about it falling faster than it could be cleared and the game could have been prepared for a 3pm KO.

Just take a look at the picture of the blue sky and sunshine that was the scene by that time.
Don't need to look at any photo.... At 1.30pm I was stuck in traffic outside the gates to townley.. It was heavy snow

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:43 pm

I left the ground at 2pm, the snow was vary light when I left.
By the time I was around Sainsbury’s 30 minutes later it had almost stopped.
At 2,45 I was home and it had stopped.
Game could easily have kicked of at 3pm

The rain radar on my weather showed that was exactlY what was going to happen.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by taio » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:47 pm

At 2.30pm the weather had improved markedly and the snow stopped not long after that.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:47 pm

The snow stopped at 2.45, the game was scheduled to start at 2pm. The clue is in there... :roll:
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:48 pm

Backofthenet wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:43 pm
Don't need to look at any photo.... At 1.30pm I was stuck in traffic outside the gates to townley.. It was heavy snow
It was but it did not last forever. The game could and should have been played.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by claretandy » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:50 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:12 pm
Horrendous conditions, a match called off. Management, players and officials in full agreement after an hour's deliberations.
A couple of bored, petulant fans, neither of whom were even contemplating being there in the first place, apparently, chuck their toys out of the pram.
Only on here.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:51 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:47 pm
The snow stopped at 2.45, the game was scheduled to start at 2pm. The clue is in there... :roll:
As taio has said - it had fallen off markedly by 2:30pm. The forecast was that it would stop shortly afterwards.

So they'd only have to wait 30 minutes to confirm the game could go ahead at 3pm.

The stated reason for calling the game off was that it was falling faster than could be removed from the pitch. This was only true for a few minutes at the height of the snow.

It was wrong to make the decision at that point based on the conditions as they were for only a very brief period.

Nobody sensible would argue the decision could not have been delayed.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:51 pm

I spent the afternoon building a snowman with our kids and later I took them sledging. I feel cheated that I didn't spend that time doing something more worthwhile, like endlessly repeating myself on here.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:52 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:51 pm
I spent the afternoon building a snowman with our kids and later I took them sledging. I feel cheated that I didn't spend that time doing something more worthwhile, like endlessly repeating myself on here.
But at least you found the time to contribute in the end, eh?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:53 pm

Premier League matches just don't EVER get called off! It's embarrassing tbh and had it been live on tele I'm convinced they'd have played (and that says it all imo!)
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by taio » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:53 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:47 pm
The snow stopped at 2.45, the game was scheduled to start at 2pm. The clue is in there... :roll:
And that's exactly why some people think the correct decision would have been to review the position and delay the kick off for an hour or so.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Milltown1882 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:54 pm

What was the weather like in Burnley today?

8 pages of absolute dross, I love this forum.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:57 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:52 pm
But at least you found the time to contribute in the end, eh?
Good point. I now feel my time spent with the kids, building a snowman and sledging, wasn't totally wasted.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Backofthenet » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:01 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:51 pm
As taio has said - it had fallen off markedly by 2:30pm. The forecast was that it would stop shortly afterwards.

So they'd only have to wait 30 minutes to confirm the game could go ahead at 3pm.

The stated reason for calling the game off was that it was falling faster than could be removed from the pitch. This was only true for a few minutes at the height of the snow.

It was wrong to make the decision at that point based on the conditions as they were for only a very brief period.

Nobody sensible would argue the decision could not have been delayed.
So you've gone from waiting 30 mins.... To waiting an hour... Make your mind up.... Or just let it go.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:02 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:53 pm
And that's exactly why some people think the correct decision would have been to review the position and delay the kick off for an hour or so.
Yes because delaying a game for "an hour or so" - your vague words, not mine, can't happen. As events proved.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by warksclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:02 pm

Just got back from Leicester v Watford. Cold and cloudy at kick-off then after about 25 minutes the first snow flurries started which soon became a fairly strong snow fall for the rest of the game (the car had about 4 inches of snow when we got out). Visibility during most of the game was poor, as was the handling of the ball by players. Because of the visibility the ref missed a very blatant foul which gifted Watford their second goal.It went to VAR but I think the visibility was too poor to establish it was a free kick to Leicester. dont know how much worse the game had to get to call it off. At one stage they had to stop the game and get hot air blowers to clear all the lines. Didnt appear like the undersoil heating was on. There were also several bad injuries as a result of the conditions . Personally having gone to that game I am pleased we did not risk the players that day, or even worse experience a bad refereeing decision
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:03 pm

claretandy wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:50 pm
I was in the 110 club at 12.

Well done. And ?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:04 pm

Getting to more posts than the actual match thread would have.

Some suspect defending from Rowls early on and should have kicked it into touch a few times instead of playing it around at the back.

But his team stood up to WeDon'tLikeRowls United constant waves of attacks.

Draw a fair result in the end.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Fretters » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:05 pm

Are people really calling us tin pot? Under soil heating doesn't stop snow cover and you can't cover the pitch during a game,
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Leisure » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:08 pm

Fretters wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:05 pm
Are people really calling us tin pot? Under soil heating doesn't stop snow cover and you can't cover the pitch during a game, you retards.
Do we not have covers which could have been put on overnight? Not having a did at you, just asking.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:08 pm

Backofthenet wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:01 pm
So you've gone from waiting 30 mins.... To waiting an hour... Make your mind up.... Or just let it go.
No, wait 30 minutes. Start the game at 3pm. Simple.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:08 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:47 pm
The snow stopped at 2.45, the game was scheduled to start at 2pm. The clue is in there... :roll:
So your point is once the scheduled time is passed all games should be abandoned.
Ipswich , parachutist on the cricket field stand etc.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:09 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:53 pm
Premier League matches just don't EVER get called off! It's embarrassing tbh and had it been live on tele I'm convinced they'd have played (and that says it all imo!)
Yes they do
Spurs Vs Everton was called off a number of years ago due to local riots.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by taio » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:09 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:02 pm
Yes because delaying a game for "an hour or so" - your vague words, not mine, can't happen. As events proved.
If you find them vague to help I'll say at 3pm or shortly after. In any case it's what those with a strong view that the kick-off should've been delayed actually think. Events didn't prove it couldn't happen - events proved that it was decided not to review a short while after the scheduled kick off time.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Davebfc69 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:09 pm

As in reply to some of the selfish nonsense cases on here , we go to chelsea , return tickets booked , heavy snow ref delays game by 30 mins to an hr, we then miss return journey home but at least some tosser can watch it on stream ehh Seriously!!
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:14 pm

How Premier League match postponements are decided

https://www.premierleague.com/news/299988

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:14 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:08 pm
So your point is once the scheduled time is passed all games should be abandoned.
Ipswich , parachutist on the cricket field stand etc.

My point is that the officials , players and management deemed it unwise to play the game under those conditions or risk any subsequent difficulties.
Look in tomorrow's paper if you don't believe me. You' seem to have taken the decision personally but I'm sure you'll get over it soon.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:15 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:14 pm
My point is that the officials , players and management deemed it unwise to play the game under those coditions nor risk any subsequent difficulties.
Look in tomorrow's paper if you don't believe me. I'm sure you'll get over it soon.
The decision is entirely the referee's.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:15 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:09 pm
Yes they do
Spurs Vs Everton was called off a number of years ago due to local riots.
Point taken, BUT you say a number of years ago and due to riots, no a bit of crappy weather. We could look utterly ridiculous here and even I might start to think the PL is actually better without "little old (stupid!) Burnley!"

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:17 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:51 pm
As taio has said - it had fallen off markedly by 2:30pm. The forecast was that it would stop shortly afterwards.

So they'd only have to wait 30 minutes to confirm the game could go ahead at 3pm.

The stated reason for calling the game off was that it was falling faster than could be removed from the pitch. This was only true for a few minutes at the height of the snow.

It was wrong to make the decision at that point based on the conditions as they were for only a very brief period.

Nobody sensible would argue the decision could not have been delayed.
So both managers aren’t sensible?

I had to be home by 6pm as my wife was going out, an hour delay wouldn’t have allowed me to do that.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:17 pm

Fretters wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:05 pm
Are people really calling us tin pot? Under soil heating doesn't stop snow cover and you can't cover the pitch during a game, you retards.
The snow stopped around 2.30 to 2.45 and hasn’t snowed since as per the weather reports said. The pitch would have been fine from 3pm onwards.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:18 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:15 pm
The decision is entirely the referee's.
One with which those closest to the match agreed with.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by taio » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:18 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:14 pm
My point is that the officials , players and management deemed it unwise to play the game under those coditions nor risk any subsequent difficulties.
Look in tomorrow's paper if you don't believe me. I'm sure you'll get over it soon.
It was the referee's decision. The players apparently were keen to play. Dyche and Conte were disappointed but understood the decision at the time.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:19 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:17 pm
The snow stopped around 2.30 to 2.45 and hasn’t snowed since as per the weather reports said. The pitch would have been fine from 3pm onwards.
It would have been ok yesterday too, we should have had the foresight to bring it forward 24 hours. Or move it to Deepdale, didn’t seem to have been much of any snow in Preston.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:20 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:18 pm
It was the referee's decision. The players apparently were keen to play. Dyche and Conte were disappointed but understood the decision at the time.
According to who?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by taio » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:21 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:20 pm
According to who?
Which bit?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:21 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:15 pm
The decision is entirely the referee's.
The final decision is, absolutely, but as Mr. Dyche , you know, our Boss, has explained, the game was called off after much consultation. As I said earlier, if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me.
You know better than him and the rest ? You're more "sensible" than him and the rest ?

Aye, whatever. :lol:
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:22 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:18 pm
One with which those closest to the match agreed with.
This is irrelevant. The point is simple. If he'd checked the forecast and not rushed into a bad decision the game could (and should) have gone ahead today.

It's very disappointing how eager people are to be pushed around and governed like this simply because somebody has mumbled something about it being "risky". The fans, especially Tottenham fans, have been treated appallingly.

The snow stopped exactly as forecast and the game could (should) have proceeded in the bright sunshine that followed.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:22 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:19 pm
It would have been ok yesterday too, we should have had the foresight to bring it forward 24 hours. Or move it to Deepdale, didn’t seem to have been much of any snow in Preston.
Nice one, martin.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:23 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:21 pm
The final decision is, absolutely, but as Mr. Dyche , you know, our Boss, has explained, the game was called off after much consultation. As I said earlier, if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me.
You know better than him and the rest ? You're more "sensible" than him and the rest ?

Aye, whatever. :lol:
Dyche is very good at the diplomacy aspect of his role.

You can't hide how bad this decision was any more than you can hide the fact the sun was shining down on Burnley when the game should have been being played.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Davebfc69 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:24 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:15 pm
Point taken, BUT you say a number of years ago and due to riots, no a bit of crappy weather. We could look utterly ridiculous here and even I might start to think the PL is actually better without "little old (stupid!) Burnley!"
I’m presuming the premier league in conjunction with the match officials called the game off ! Not tinpot Burnley 🙈
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:26 pm

Davebfc69 wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:24 pm
I’m presuming the premier league in conjunction with the match officials called the game off ! Not tinpot Burnley 🙈
Referee's decision. His alone.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:27 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:01 pm
Image
This is what the sky looked like when the game would have been going ahead guys.

It was an awful decision and it was a kick in the teeth for football supporters.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:27 pm

Go and have a lay down.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:28 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:26 pm
Referee's decision. His alone.
But, as Sean Dyche confirmed to the Press, everyone was in agreement - apart from Rowls of course ;)
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:29 pm

Davebfc69 wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:24 pm
I’m presuming the premier league in conjunction with the match officials called the game off ! Not tinpot Burnley 🙈
I don't imagine the PL have anything to do with it at the point it's called off, although I definitely imagine they'll be EXTREMELY interested to know the facts and whys and wherefores around the decision tomorrow morning.
The point I'm making is that teams at the highest level constantly play in crap weather these days and little old Burnley couldn't. I assume the reasons were legit, but ultimately we will still look very, very tin pot to the outside world!

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:29 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:28 pm
But, as Sean Dyche confirmed to the Press, everyone was in agreement - apart from Rowls of course ;)
That's what Sean has said to the press.

Look at the picture of the sky in my post above. That was taken when the game should have been playing.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Davebfc69 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:30 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:27 pm
This is what the sky looked like when the game would have been going ahead guys.

It was an awful decision and it was a kick in the teeth for football supporters.
Strange cause when we were in swan at around 2.15 it was a snowing heavily but hey ho 👏

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Safron » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:32 pm

This thread is getting bigger than the transfer rumour thread😁
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:33 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:23 pm
Dyche is very good at the diplomacy aspect of his role.

You can't hide how bad this decision was any more than you can hide the fact the sun was shining down on Burnley when the game should have been being played.

Now then, rowls, give it a rest. Making stuff up is pushing it a bit far.
So Dyche didn't mean what he said, Conte was telling porkies too............two guys who are absolutely terrified of upsetting the authorities.......and the sun was shining in time for the second half. Fans and staff hanging about for around an hour and a half for that would have been a really, really good idea.

I know you're messing about but, hey, come on.
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