As far as I'm aware don't have covers, match saver was removed 10 years ago when new drainage and the dresso pitch installed. I didn't believe at the time but the pitch and drainage has worked.

Undersoil heating deals with the frost, snow risk is what it is, likely surrounding areas would get the match off including the condition of the lower tiers

Besides didn't they clear the pitch only for it to be snowed on again

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:04 pm

And would it keep snow of the pitch?

Not an hour before kick off no.

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:13 pm

Just for clarity, I haven't called it a bad decision. But snow was clearly forecast but I'm not aware of any actions that the Club took to mitigate this. Maybe they couldn’t but I'm just asking.

Should’ve tried praying maybe?

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:20 pm

Lancaster portrays himself as an understanding, thoughtful liberal type, one of the ones that say “be kind” etc but he loves joining a pile on on here, as can be seen from his messages on this thread.

Exactly, typical left wing

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:44 pm

Exactly, typical left wing

Well, I'm only left wing because the right have gone way, way, way, way too far to the right

And anyone who posts stuff on a messageboard hoping for an reaction is going to get an reaction, and I'm 100% sure Rowls knows that

And others portray themselves as all lives matter until folk drown in the sea trying to come to England and then it's "they shouldn't be coming here, they should be stopped" etc.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:48 pm

Well, I'm only left wing because the right have gone way, way, way, way too far to the right

And anyone who posts stuff on a messageboard hoping for an reaction is going to get an reaction, and I'm 100% sure Rowls knows that

I totally disagree with him over this but some posters disagree with people just because of who they are!

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:20 pm

Lancaster portrays himself as an understanding, thoughtful liberal type, one of the ones that say “be kind” etc but he loves joining a pile on on here, as can be seen from his messages on this thread.

I'd never say "be kind" mate, that would be a bit weird!

And you can't beat a good internet pile on, when both protagonists get exactly what they are hoping for!

But if I can just explain my reckoning on the threads that really annoy me if you don't mind

I get piled on by the racists, for pointing out that they are racists (something that Rowls is not btw)

Now I do it because I know the majority of the board don't want racist posts, and by highlighting it, it results in people reacting so that the racists know they are outnumbered

And I am an understanding, thoughtful liberal type, but I just can't racists

I hope that clears it up

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:53 pm

I totally disagree with him over this but some posters disagree with people just because of who they are!

Well, no

I disagree with the likes of Dsr on stuff like Brexit and politics, but we are very much in agreement on how the club is run (well, at least until the takeover)

I disagree with Rowls on this thread because I thought he was being very unfair to the people who made the decision, and I highlighted the other things he's not an expert in to back up my point.

Taio was quite right that I probably shouldn't do that, but I've been arguing with Rowls long enough to know his modus operandi now, and he's got exactly what he wanted out of this thread

And so have I

I wouldn't have a problem with Rowls if I should ever meet him btw

Others on here I would have, and I'm sure they would with me

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:50 pm

And others portray themselves as all lives matter until folk drown in the sea trying to come to England and then it's "they shouldn't be coming here, they should be stopped" etc.

They should be stopped we don’t have a border force employed to do nothing the more people that are stopped the better.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:53 pm

I totally disagree with him over this but some posters disagree with people just because of who they are!

There's about 5/6 over the top liberal types on here who cannot ignore a post and try to change the world from the comfort of their homes. They can be ridiculously nasty for liberal types.

They'll carry on the debate (argument) until the thread gets pulled or they've climbed so far up their own arses that they can't find the submit button.

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:07 pm

There's about 5/6 over the top liberal types on here who cannot ignore a post and try to change the world from the comfort of their homes. They can be ridiculously nasty for liberal types.

They'll carry on the debate (argument) until the thread gets pulled or they've climbed so far up their own arses that they can't find the submit button.

I just feel so bad that my posts on here have hurt you so much BOT

How about a hug?

This thread started at 13.07 had the team sheet been published.

Just so I’m clear, as a sandal wearing liberal am I for or against postponements for snow?

This thread has become incredibly silly v

Peter Loo wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:14 pm

This thread started at 13.07 had the team sheet been published.

Yes, Cork and Collins in for Westwood and Tarky.

Shame really as both scored in a 4-1 win.

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. It's gone from snowed-off to snowflakes.

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:17 pm

Yes, Cork and Collins in for Westwood and Tarky.

Shame really as both scored in a 4-1 win.

Thanks no Roberts again, was Roberts on the bench then.

Got to laugh though. Only on here could a thread about a match being postponed descend into others banging on about liberals and leftwingery.

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:23 pm

Got to laugh though. Only on here could a thread about a match being postponed descend into others banging on about liberals and leftwingery.

Really is one of the all time great threads.

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:53 pm

Undersoil heating doesn't melt snow it stops frost forming on the pitch.

Does it melt the frost ?

Peter Loo wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:20 pm

Thanks no Roberts again, was Roberts on the bench then.

Roberts AND Bardsley. Everybody must be friends again? Or had we seen a weakness down their left?

Soooooo after all the arguments what time are we on Motd2 ?

Was Roberts on the bench or not involved again as there seems to be no record of the teams for today on the club site or the BBC one.

Fair play to my sandal wearing friends willing to brave these wintery condition to watch the clarets.

Peter Loo wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:35 pm

Was Roberts on the bench or not involved again as there seems to be no record of the teams for today on the club site or the BBC one.

Forget that I’ve just seen minnies post.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:35 pm

Fair play to my sandal wearing friends willing to brave these wintery condition to watch the clarets.

I wear a good thick pair of hemp socks at this time of year.

I make our kids read Das Kapital at half time, rather than the matchday programme.

I sing the ‘Red Flag’ when others are singing ‘No Nay Never’.

I don't know why on earth some people think this is about politics. It has nothing to do with politics. Anyone who talks about this as if it is something to do with politics or "grabbing attention" clearly has that as their ulterior motive.

My motive is simple: Looking out for football fans. The football fans have suffered today. We've lost out financially and we've had our time wasted. It was clearly the wrong decision.

My wife knits yoghurt to keep her hands warm.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:55 pm

My motive is simple: Looking out for football fans. The football fans have suffered today. We've lost out financially and we've had our time wasted. It was clearly the wrong decision.

We're all deeply moved by your concern.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:55 pm

I don't know why on earth some people think this is about politics.

Yes why would someone try and make it about politics

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:56 pm

Some people want to call me names and try and goad me based on nothing more than they have different political opinions to me. I'll live with it.

Oh...

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:55 pm

I don't know why on earth some people think this is about politics. It has nothing to do with politics. Anyone who talks about this as if it is something to do with politics or "grabbing attention" clearly has that as their ulterior motive.

My motive is simple: Looking out for football fans. The football fans have suffered today. We've lost out financially and we've had our time wasted. It was clearly the wrong decision.

You've made more noise on here than those on here who've actually gone to the game and had to turn around when they got there.

You've had your weekly allowance of attention now I think, that's been your motive.

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:35 pm

Soooooo after all the arguments what time are we on Motd2 ?

Last obviously, can't even believe you need to ask.

Backofthenet wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:39 pm

When would you have put the covers on..... Not sure they work with undersoil heating though

I wasn’t suggesting that we should have used them.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:55 pm

I don't know why on earth some people think this is about politics. It has nothing to do with politics. Anyone who talks about this as if it is something to do with politics or "grabbing attention" clearly has that as their ulterior motive.

My motive is simple: Looking out for football fans. The football fans have suffered today. We've lost out financially and we've had our time wasted. It was clearly the wrong decision.

How have you lost out financially as a matter of interest?

martin_p wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:04 pm

How have you lost out financially as a matter of interest?

I haven't.

And don't be insolent, it doesn't suit you martin. You're brighter than that.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:04 pm

I haven't.

And don't be insolent, it doesn't suit you martin. You're brighter than that.

It’s just you said ‘we’ve lost out’.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:04 pm

How have you lost out financially as a matter of interest?

He unnecessarily used electricity on his laptop from his stream in France.

2 mins 9 seconds in.
I think people think undersoil heating works like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRKOTdpCYK4&ab_ ... iValentayn

martin_p wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:06 pm

It’s just you said ‘we’ve lost out’.

OK martin, act the clown when we all know what I meant.

I was very clearly talking about football fans in general. The we I am referring to is football fans in general.

The game could very easily have been played with a slight delay. People will have travelled from near and far. At least one Tottenham fan came from the USA to watch.

It was a poor decision.

Maybe people are so stupefyingly risk averse these days and scared of everything that they think it's perfectly fine to disregard supporters like this but I don't and it's annoyed me.

If the conditions had been unplayable then fine. But that wasn't the case. As we've seen the was bright sunshine and clear blue skies only 30 minutes after the scheduled kick off time.

It's indefensible not to have at least considered delaying the decision.

It's a bit weird how we're yet to see a single poster, who was actually affected by today, show as much outrage and disgust as Rowls, who wasn't even going anyway.

Almost as if he's just 'virtue-signalling' or something.

I don't care two hoots if you think I'm virtuous or not.

Football fans were clearly disregarded in the decision. That surface was completely playable barely 50 minutes after the decision and 30 minutes after the scheduled kick off we had clear blue skies and sunshine.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:12 pm

OK martin, act the clown when we all know what I meant.

I was very clearly talking about football fans in general. The we I am referring to is football fans in general.

The game could very easily have been played with a slight delay. People will have travelled from near and far. At least one Tottenham fan came from the USA to watch.

It was a poor decision.

Maybe people are so stupefyingly risk averse these days and scared of everything that they think it's perfectly fine to disregard supporters like this but I don't and it's annoyed me.

If the conditions had been unplayable then fine. But that wasn't the case. As we've seen the was bright sunshine and clear blue skies only 30 minutes after the scheduled kick off time.

It's indefensible not to have at least considered delaying the decision.

Ah, so you’re being upset on other people’s behalf. Thought you were against that sort of thing. Well don’t be upset on my behalf, I had a 100 mile round trip that took me more than three hours but am happy the right decision was taken.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:04 pm

I haven't.
And don't be insolent, it doesn't suit you martin. You're brighter than that.

Fair play to you for sticking to your guns and I do think you are sincere about the fans losing out financially.
Being from an older generation it was normal to have at least two games a year pp. Although folk didn’t travel the distances they do now.
I’ve finally caught up with the round up on sky. Bankes kicking the ball around and the manager interviews. It looked like a pp to me. The ref has to take player safety into consideration with the existing H&S laws and these are multi-million pound assets sliding around out there.
Dormez bien.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:55 pm

I don't know why on earth some people think this is about politics. It has nothing to do with politics. Anyone who talks about this as if it is something to do with politics or "grabbing attention" clearly has that as their ulterior motive.

My motive is simple: Looking out for football fans. The football fans have suffered today. We've lost out financially and we've had our time wasted. It was clearly the wrong decision.

You are good at this, and its been fun, but you've now managed to get the support of the proper out there personalities of the board behind you

Are you sure you really want that?

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:15 pm

I don't care two hoots if you think I'm virtuous or not.

Football fans were clearly disregarded in the decision. That surface was completely playable barely 50 minutes after the decision and 30 minutes after the scheduled kick off we had clear blue skies and sunshine.

Football fans shouldn’t come into a decision on whether a pitch is fit for a game.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:18 pm

Ah, so you’re being upset on other people’s behalf. Thought you were against that sort of thing. Well don’t be upset on my behalf, I had a 100 mile round trip that took me more than three hours but am happy the right decision was taken.

This is the attitude that I find baffling.

It's as if people have been conditioned to accept any kind of restriction if there is any kind of suspected "risk".

Many on here have agreed with me - the referee should have at least waited before calling the game off.

Certainly I've been a outlier and a bit of a black sheep all my life but to see people on here (yourself included) claim it was the correct call is like watching people all agreeing that 2+2=5

Some of them, notably Lancaster, John McGreal and -to a lesser extent- fidelcastro, are at least partially trying to wind me up and imagining it will make me angry but it doesn't; it's bread and butter to me.

2+2=4

The game today should have gone ahead.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:21 pm

Football fans shouldn’t come into a decision on whether a pitch is fit for a game.

The pitch was perfectly playable. That's the point.

Fair play to Kane