January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Stalbansclaret]

Why would you blame Dyche ? Surely he would spend as much money as he could get his hands on.

[AshevilleNCClaret]

I think ship has sailed to buy any player on the cheap. Every other league knows that the PL is flush with cash, and will price their players accordingly (i.e. they will charge an arm an a leg).

i think the scouting is going in the right direction. Cornet would probably not have been signed under the previous administration. I think we get at least one very good player in this window.

[Vegas Claret]

Cornet would probably not have been signed under the previous administration.

if we paid 15 million for him he would have been 14 million too expensive for the last lot !

[warksclaret]

Its funny but we were recruiting better and then making profit on player sales towards the end of Howe's era ant the first few years of Dyche

We bought wisely with Heaton, Ward, Arfield, Barton, Jones (all frees), Austin,Trippier, Tarks, Keane, Vokes, Gray to mention a few

We sold wisely-Heaton,Austin, Ings, Keane, Gray, Vokes. These sales made us good money but the re-investment in new players halted about two years ago

A club like us CAN survive but its only by planning and being "smart" in having good scouts surveying the lower leagues and buying them before they become more sought after. Brentford as has been mentioned above have been superb at buying good prospects, developing them, then making a monstrous profit on them. Southampton are another example of a club that buys shrewdly and makes good profits on the sale of certain players. As a result both Saints & Brentford have enough in the bag already this season to fight another day in the PL. At the start of the season they were to me likely to be in the botton two or three.Whilst SD has performed heroics for about 8 years I cannot help feeling that his stubbornness on which players he is prepared to work with has seriously come home to roost and make the job of survival almost impossible

[AshevilleNCClaret]

if we paid 15 million for him he would have been 14 million too expensive for the last lot !

I agree. We would have made 10 bids, starting at 1 million, and each bid going up in 10 dollar increments...

I would also station someone outside Man City and Man U's youth academy and sign pretty much anyone who they let go.

[Vegas Claret]

I agree. We would have made 10 bids, starting at 1 million, and each bid going up in 10 dollar increments...

I would also station someone outside Man City and Man U's youth academy and sign pretty much anyone who they let go.

a couple of my Man Utd supporting mates were really surprised they let Helm go !

[AshevilleNCClaret]

a couple of my Man Utd supporting mates were really surprised they let Helm go !

I've never been to burnley, but its what, like an hour away by car? Some of the young players/families might not want to uproot and move somewhere else, and they could probably commute to burnley, at least for the short term.

well... I just checked their website and Man City's academy have 32 academy players out on loan !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mancheste ... nd_Academy

New idea... we should rename out academy to Manchister and hope that in the confusion, a few of their good young players make it into our squad.

[alwaysaclaret]

Why would you blame Dyche ? Surely he would spend as much money as he could get his hands on.

That's just it though imo, I don't believe he always will or has, and furthermore I think he's been he's own worst enemy because that's he's mentality, he may now be in a position that he has to in order to survive but as we all know too well, it may be too late, and I put that down simply to his stubbornness in trying to find players that fit every one of he's criteria, and he was never going to find that player. So for that I'm afraid I put a lot of the blame on dyche, and possibly that's why him and garlick were eventually on a different page and in the end garlick just wanted out, just maybe !! Think renewing contracts of lennon, hendrick etc. Dyche wanted them, garlick didn't

[elwaclaret]

So why has it never happened then?

Because few clubs are as United as Burnley tend to be. It is why I am pleased the deal, while not ideal, for the club was done. The relationship breakdown between Garlick and Dyche was poison that was only going to end in relegation. We escaped last season, with some comfort in the end, and, need to do the same to return to equilibrium after the club had been run in neutral; I’m expecting that next season will feel more like the club is launching forward again, but that must start on the pitch this season.

[Vegas Claret]

That's just it though imo, I don't believe he always will or has, and furthermore I think he's been he's own worst enemy because that's he's mentality, he may now be in a position that he has to in order to survive but as we all know too well, it may be too late, and I put that down simply to his stubbornness in trying to find players that fit every one of he's criteria, and he was never going to find that player. So for that I'm afraid I put a lot of the blame on dyche, and possibly that's why him and garlick were eventually on a different page and in the end garlick just wanted out, just maybe !! Think renewing contracts of lennon, hendrick etc. Dyche wanted them, garlick didn't

his criteria whilst it's been relatively successful has been extraordinarily shirt sighted and has led us to where we are now

[arise_sir_charge]

You are correct, but continuing with that policy has seen us sink slowly, deeper and deeper into the mire as though we were walking in quicksand.

I do think he is correct.

The point is that those older signings have had very little baring on us staying in the Premier League.

[arise_sir_charge]

I do think he is correct.

The point is that those older signings have had very little baring on us staying in the Premier League.

Don’t, it should say don’t (bloody edit feature).

[claret2018]

We should be trying to get Jack Wilshire. Bags of experience, would be cheap, would bring that quality we are crying out for.

Yes he’s injury prone but so are the rest of our players.

[tiger76]

We should be trying to get Jack Wilshire. Bags of experience, would be cheap, would bring that quality we are crying out for.

Yes he’s injury prone but so are the rest of our players.

No! No! and still no to Wilshire, we've squandered far too much down the years on over the hill players milking us for one last big payday.

[minnieclaret]

One of the main reasons we have fallen down the table over recent years is the money that wealthier promoted clubs have spent. Wolves were excellent, Villa stayed up and are now improving, Saints have new money to spend, CP and BHA haven’t been tight and all play good attacking football that could benefit from a 20 goal/season striker.
We just don’t have that sort of money and I will never, ever understand the grief SD gets on here for being pragmatic and finding a way to survive in this league.

[DCWat]

https://www.90min.com/posts/burnley-con ... arroll/amp

Should I be surprised!?

[Newcastleclaret93]

https://www.90min.com/posts/burnley-con ... arroll/amp

Should I be surprised!?

Free transfer I could see this happening

[evensteadiereddie]

As if.

[cockneyclaret]

https://www.90min.com/posts/burnley-con ... arroll/amp

Should I be surprised!?

I would take him and Defoe till the end of the season giving us time for the next few games to sort a mid/winger/striker before the window shuts

[Shaggy]

That reeks of a Dyche especialé signing.

Hope not though.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I would take him and Defoe till the end of the season giving us time for the next few games to sort a mid/winger/striker before the window shuts

I agree, our striking options are a problem but if we don’t address our midfield it doesn’t matter who we have up front.

[CrosspoolClarets]

One of the main reasons we have fallen down the table over recent years is the money that wealthier promoted clubs have spent. Wolves were excellent, Villa stayed up and are now improving, Saints have new money to spend, CP and BHA haven’t been tight and all play good attacking football that could benefit from a 20 goal/season striker.
We just don’t have that sort of money and I will never, ever understand the grief SD gets on here for being pragmatic and finding a way to survive in this league.

This may be partly true but lets also remember we could have signed an extra Cornet in each of the three preceding summer windows but chose not to in order to fat up the balance sheet - not needed, it was choice, as we now know.

A player of that talent level at (say) right back, centre mid and right wing plus what we have now - that could be a top half team.

[cockneyclaret]

Tbh I know but we need something till we actually sign someone of quality.. we just have Jrod

[RVclaret]

Christ almighty

[Denno97]

Dyche special this. Guess he couldn’t convince Crouch out of retirement so this is the next best option

[nyclaret]

Carroll to relegate Newcastle would be quite amusing to be fair.

[jedi_master]

If our ambition extends to Andy Carroll then you may as well put the R next to our name now I am afraid. That would be an embarrassment.

[Murger]

Good grief.

[HahaYeah]

Carroll to relegate Newcastle would be quite amusing to be fair.

That would be something.

[cockneyclaret]

Unless we can pull of a signing quickly, we need a position filled.. give it for a few games

[Burnleyareback2]

Absolute no brainer to take Carroll until the end of the season. Would I be relying on him to keep us up, absolutely not but it’s another body that can fit our system.

Not sure if I’d trust him with a penalty in the last game though.

[Shaggy]

There’s lots of players we could try and sign. I’d be looking at Boyle from Hibs for a start as a winger he’s lightening quick. Going to some Middle Eastern club for £2m by the looks of it.

The other guy from Hibs Nesbit Scottish international could be had for peanuts too. Morelos from Rangers would be ideal for us, wouldn’t cost that much either. Dyche will prefer Moore and Carroll though. It’s his way, and the reason our squads as paltry as it is.

[SGr]

Well I thought not even here would I find someone willing to defend Andy Carroll as an idea but oh boy of course I was wrong.

[SkiptonClaret]

Carroll and a rejuvenated Ash Barnes would be a fantastic watch.

[Iloveyoubrady]

I don’t know if onauchu at Genk is attainable at all but with £25 million, it makes sense to go all out for someone like that. Massive, strong, quite quick, great goal record.

[RVclaret]

I don’t know if onauchu at Genk is attainable at all but with £25 million, it makes sense to go all out for someone like that. Massive, strong, quite quick, great goal record.

This is Dyche we are talking about. Like we’ve been discussing today, he prefers his old pros, hence he’s not wanting Carroll.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Well I thought not even here would I find someone willing to defend Andy Carroll as an idea but oh boy of course I was wrong.

Apparently on 1k a week at the moment according to daily mail.

If we could bring him in on not a lot more could do a job till end of season.

Don’t get me wrong it’s not what I want at all. But we have to prioritise CM and RM this window.

[Row Z]

Apparently on 1k a week at the moment according to daily mail.

If we could bring him in on not a lot more could do a job till end of season.

Don’t get me wrong it’s not what I want at all. But we have to prioritise CM and RM this window.

We need goals and that is not the solution.

[Newcastleclaret93]

We need goals and that is not the solution.

We are not going to get goals if we don’t sort out midfield. At the moment we can’t keep clean sheets and we can’t score.

Let’s shore up midfield and go from there.

[Milltown1882]

Apparently on 1k a week at the moment according to daily mail.

If we could bring him in on not a lot more could do a job till end of season.

Don’t get me wrong it’s not what I want at all. But we have to prioritise CM and RM this window.

Jesus Christ. It’s Crouch all over again.

[beddie]

Carroll and a rejuvenated Ash Barnes would be a fantastic watch.

Skipton. You omitted to add

[Mala591]

List of players out of contract.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statist ... osespieler

[Shaggy]

List of players out of contract.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statist ... osespieler

Now Diego Costa would be a proper signing, didn’t realise Benkovic was without a club. Big tall centre half done well at his time in scotland with Celtic and still only 24.

[Elizabeth]

Hey some of you , we want to get the crowd up on Saturday , stop messing about with these silly ideas

[superdimitri]

Costa isn't a free agent. He signed with Atlético Mineiro until December 2022.

[Burnleyareback2]

Speaking to a Reading fan - Carroll has been a real leader for them and hasn’t put a foot wrong. He text me to say he is disappointed to lose him.

He also said if Dyche can transform Barton it will be a walk in the park with Carroll.

I don’t see what we have to lose here right now.

[Stayingup]

Carroll to relegate Newcastle would be quite amusing to be fair.

Oh yes!!!

[Vegas Claret]

Absolute no brainer to take Carroll until the end of the season. Would I be relying on him to keep us up, absolutely not but it’s another body that can fit our system.

Not sure if I’d trust him with a penalty in the last game though.

the system that has amassed 1 win all season - that's the issue

[Vegas Claret]

it would be hilarious though if we got Carroll as a free and he kept us up and we banked the 20 million profit on Wood

[Burnleyareback2]

the system that has amassed 1 win all season - that's the issue

Not saying I like the system, but it has kept us in this league for a few years.

I’d rather be changing how we play ahead of the next season in this league than this Saturday.