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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:21 am

Firthy wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:19 am
Well so far we've had virtually zero to discuss. It all seems to be about Wood being sold, Pace and Co in financial trouble and willing to sell to bring in funds. I'm even finding it hard to believe that there's any truth in the rumours about oversees players. It's not looking great with 9 days of the window left and zero signings despite only having one fit striker. I hope to god I'm wrong but I'm starting to worry just how much truth there is in the rumours about financial stability. Guess we won't know until the window closes.
So basically a post about nothing
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Post by Top Claret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:22 am

burnleymik wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:18 am
He is completely different to Wood in that he has been incredibly good and consistent almost every game for season after season. A few errors in his last few games doesn't change that at all.
Tarkowski as been excellent for us throughout the majority of his time but this season he has been poor and disinterested

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:27 am

burnleymik wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:18 am
He is completely different to Wood in that he has been incredibly good and consistent almost every game for season after season. A few errors in his last few games doesn't change that at all.
I agree he’s got the odd mistake in him but still a good defender, but same old when people get sold they are in terminal decline like wood makes you wonder why people are interested & shelling out money for them if that’s the case.

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Post by beddie » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:39 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
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define "country mile"

“ a long way:” “There were no other houses within a country mile of where we lived. a large amount: The show was better than his last one by a country mile”.

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Post by minnieclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:07 am

Top Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:14 am
Not the way he has been playing this season he isn't.
I posted recently that from journalists match ratings he is just behind VVD as the best CB in the league. Don’t base a season on a couple of down performances. He’s been excellent again this term.
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Post by 1HappyClaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:32 am

I know I am getting on a bit and my memory is not as good as it was but I’m sure this thread is about Burnley transfer rumours. I must have missed the bit that changed to slagging off players.

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Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:42 am

I think if Roberts doesn’t get a game soon he may well be a name on next summers transfer thread!!

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Post by MACCA » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:45 am

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:42 am
I think if Roberts doesn’t get a game soon he may well be a name on next summers transfer thread!!
Could be a Gibson all over again, although he only has to replace Lowton, so you'd hope even Mr Rigid would give him a chance at some point
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:46 am

minnieclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:07 am
I posted recently that from journalists match ratings he is just behind VVD as the best CB in the league. Don’t base a season on a couple of down performances. He’s been excellent again this term.
Yep people are letting there feelings get in the way of the truth. Tarks has been our best defender again this season, the stats back it up.

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Post by MACCA » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:50 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:58 pm
How long would he be out for?

Just seems silly when he hasn't played for 6 week. Would have been ideal.

Must think we can keep him going until he leaves in the summer?
Mobile after 2 weeks
Shouldn't really exert for 6 weeks
So I'd guess a professional footballer probably upto 2 months?

Probably hasn't been given the operation as we only had 2 forwards, and one has been injured, sick and covid of late.
I'd have said should we have had 3 fully fit forwards along with Cornet, he might have gone in for surgery after the busy Xmas period.

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Post by TsarBomba » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:16 am

minnieclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:07 am
I posted recently that from journalists match ratings he is just behind VVD as the best CB in the league. Don’t base a season on a couple of down performances. He’s been excellent again this term.
The stats are misleading for our CB’s.

Our system (generally) is to protect the back 4 and not allow the CB’s to get exposed 1v1.

We spend the majority of our time defending, so Tarks/Mee will always score highly on blocks, interceptions, headers, tackles, etc.

Tarks and Mee are very good for us, but in a far more open system, they would struggle. Their lack of pace especially would get exposed, not to mention their distribution.

Michael Keane was superb for us, and much better than Tarks. A real Rolls Royce of a CB. But at Everton, he has struggled.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:18 am

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TsarBomba wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:16 am
The stats are misleading for our CB’s.

Our system (generally) is to protect the back 4 and not allow the CB’s to get exposed 1v1.

We spend the majority of our time defending, so Tarks/Mee will always score highly on blocks, interceptions, headers, tackles, etc.

Tarks and Mee are very good for us, but in a far more open system, they would struggle. Their lack of pace especially would get exposed, not to mention their distribution.

Michael Keane was superb for us, and much better than Tarks. A real Rolls Royce of a CB. But at Everton, he has struggled.
Do it a game by game basis then. Tarks is still our best CB statistically, why would we drop him when everyone else is performing so badly?

It’s like Burnley fans love targeting our best players and not the other players that are struggling to even complete 30 passes in a game.

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Post by DCWat » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:18 am

Aside from the recent two poor games, I don’t recall reading too much negativity about Tarkowski’s performances, this season.

Our midfield and attack on the other hand!!
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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:21 am

Tarkowski literally handed Southampton a goal, great through ball

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Post by NewClaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:22 am

Top Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:22 am
Tarkowski as been excellent for us throughout the majority of his time but this season he has been poor and disinterested
Disagree with this entirely. Look around after a goal and it’s him that has the most pained expression on his face and the one dishing out the bollockings. An absolute leader who has made a few more mistakes than normal.

I’m not completely against accepting a (very good) offer if it comes in - and he’s willing to move, of course, he holds all the cards - but that’s more to do with thinking Collins is an excellent prospect, the OOC situation and average age of the squad meaning we need funding to invest vs. any issues with Tarks’ attitude or performances to date.

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Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:02 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:22 am
Disagree with this entirely. Look around after a goal and it’s him that has the most pained expression on his face and the one dishing out the bollockings. An absolute leader who has made a few more mistakes than normal.

I’m not completely against accepting a (very good) offer if it comes in - and he’s willing to move, of course, he holds all the cards - but that’s more to do with thinking Collins is an excellent prospect, the OOC situation and average age of the squad meaning we need funding to invest vs. any issues with Tarks’ attitude or performances to date.
Disagree all you want but it's there for all to see, watch all the highlights of this season so far and see how many of his errors, doing silly Cruyff turns and putting the ball across the back line something that's taught not to do at six years old football level and see how many have lead to us conceding goals and losing or drawing a game, yes he's not on his own and he's been fantastic during his time at Burnley but please don't pretend he's having a good season.

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Post by NewClaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:06 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:02 am
Watch all the highlights of this season and see how many of his errors, doing silly Cruyff turns and putting the ball across the back line something that's taught not to do at six years old football level and see how many have lead to us conceding goals and losing or drawing a game, yes he's not on his own but please don't pretend he's have a good season.
I noted he’s made more mistakes than usual in my post. I was replying to the point about him looking disinterested. That is not true; he always looks like one of the players that cares the most.

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Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:15 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:46 am
Yep people are letting there feelings get in the way of the truth. Tarks has been our best defender again this season, the stats back it up.
If you are looking at stats on the Internet counting blocks, tackles ect it goes

Ranked at Burnley this season

1st - Taylor
2nd - Lowton
3rd - Tarkowski
4th - Mee

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Post by taio » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:18 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:06 am
I noted he’s made more mistakes than usual in my post. I was replying to the point about him looking disinterested. That is not true; he always looks like one of the players that cares the most.
It's more a case of least worst this season - Tarkowski has been one of the least worst. Some people are just remembering the last couple of games.

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Post by Pearcey » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:21 am

Is there an offer in for Tarkowski?

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Post by Culmclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:21 am

Shows how much chance we have of signing someone when the main topic of conversation is whether Tarkowski is any good/interested
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Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:29 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:06 am
he always looks like one of the players that cares the most.
A bit like a politician who pretends he is bothered
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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:35 am

taio wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:18 am
It's more a case of least worst this season - Tarkowski has been one of the least worst. Some people are just remembering the last couple of games.
Some people are just completely jacked off with the complete & utter disarray engulfing the club & JT is a easy target as a distraction.
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Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:44 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:35 am
Some people are just completely jacked off with the complete & utter disarray engulfing the club & JT is a easy target as a distraction.
Easy target ???? It's no coincidence he's having his worst season in a lot of fans view, giving goals away and looks half arsed in his last season with us after letting his contract run down so he can pick up a bigger pay day elsewhere that's my opinion and view from the stands and tv, others might think differently, it's called debate, I also think he will ease up towards the end of the season fearing injury will jeopardise a summer move
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Post by taio » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:45 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:44 am
Easy target ???? It's no coincidence he's having his worst season in a lot of fans view, giving goals away and looks half arsed in his last season with us after letting his contract run down so he can pick up a bigger pay day elsewhere that's my opinion and view from the stands and tv, others might think differently, it's called debate.
It's no coincidence either that the rest of the team are having their worst season.

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Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:48 am

taio wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:45 am
It's no coincidence either that the rest of the team are having their worst season.
I agree all the player's out of contract and the uncertainty is not good for the team

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:52 am

Should have let Tarkowski go in summer. He's got zero interest in being a Burnley player and it's showing in his performances.

Whether it's better to stick or twist at this stage is 50/50 really.

There's most probably zero chance that we can sign a decent alternative.

Nobody wants to come because we look nailed on to go down and Burnley insist on relegation salary reduction clauses.

Can't blame them really.

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Post by Mala591 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:02 pm

Rumour that we’ve put in a £10 million bid for Sardar Azmoun who is out of contract this summer

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sardar- ... ler/180337
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Post by tiger76 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:02 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:52 am
Should have let Tarkowski go in summer. He's got zero interest in being a Burnley player and it's showing in his performances.

Whether it's better to stick or twist at this stage is 50/50 really.

There's most probably zero chance that we can sign a decent alternative.

Nobody wants to come because we look nailed on to go down and Burnley insist on relegation salary reduction clauses.

Can't blame them really.
Easy to say in hindsight, but if we'd have known how quickly Collins would settle in, selling Tarks last summer would have been a no-brainer.

Regarding relegation clauses I'd still waiver on the side of keeping them, blimey! the finances will be bad enough if or when we go down, without having to pay silly wages on Championship income.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:08 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:02 pm
Easy to say in hindsight, but if we'd have known how quickly Collins would settle in, selling Tarks last summer would have been a no-brainer.

Regarding relegation clauses I'd still waiver on the side of keeping them, blimey! the finances will be bad enough if or when we go down, without having to pay silly wages on Championship income.
Yeah, I agree that we need to have them, but it's going to make it tough to attract the calibre of player we need to keep us up.

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Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:10 pm

Mala591 wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:02 pm
Rumour that we’ve put in a £10 million bid for Sardar Azmoun who is out of contract this summer

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sardar- ... ler/180337
This guy would be fantastic if we could get him in https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Ldv4hXZpk
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Post by tiger76 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:12 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:08 pm
Yeah, I agree that we need to have them, but it's going to make it tough to attract the calibre of player we need to keep us up.
Yes it's always going to be a tough sell to attract premium talent, hence why I'd prefer that we searched in Europe and the lower leagues for younger players, rather than forking out high salaries on say Basham and Carroll, who are both well past their prime.

They are out there as Cornet shows, it's just a case of digging them up.

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Post by taio » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:12 pm

We should never, ever not insist on contract clauses that reduce a player's wages in the event of relegation. It will certainly put potential signings off but that's fine especially as the same player is likely to want a release clause that triggers on demotion.
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Post by alwaysaclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:27 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:10 pm
This guy would be fantastic if we could get him in https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Ldv4hXZpk
I agree, but really can't see it if I'm being honest 🤞

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Post by claretandbluesky » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:59 pm

Got to get Collins into the side so have to use Tarkowski differently might give him a lease of life.

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Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:03 pm

claretandbluesky wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:59 pm
Got to get Collins into the side so have to use Tarkowski differently might give him a lease of life.
Yes stick him behind the food counter dishing out pie's and Pints 😆 🤣 😂

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Post by HyperClaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:03 pm

Andy Jones just about keeping my dwindling hopes alive, damn him :lol:
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Post by fatboy47 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:05 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:02 pm
if we'd have known how quickly Collins would settle in, selling Tarks last summer would have been a no-brainer.

Some are never going to quite grasp that you can't sell a player determined to run down his contract.
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Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:10 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:12 pm

it's just a case of digging them up.
Why not another? Not like we haven’t got one foot in the grave
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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:31 pm

If I was going to put money on any signings I’d bet on Orisic and Guirrassy being the ones we make.

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Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:32 pm

Eddie has had a “change of heart” and is now looking at Delli Ali. The stench of desperation starting to ooze out of Newcastle?

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:32 pm

Guirrassy looks like a bit of a donkey from what I’ve seen

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Post by jrgbfc » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:33 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:05 pm
Some are never going to quite grasp that you can't sell a player determined to run down his contract.
We don't know he is though. Apart from West Ham has anyone actually shown serious interest?

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Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:33 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:32 pm
Guirrassy looks like a bit of a donkey from what I’ve seen
He was heavily linked with Arsenal less than two years ago

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Post by Paul Waine » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:39 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:32 pm
Eddie has had a “change of heart” and is now looking at Delli Ali. The stench of desperation starting to ooze out of Newcastle?
Times reporting EH is frustrated that not already signed more that KT and CW. Other targets have turned NUFC down. EH says they should include relegation clauses, meaning released when relegated (rather than pay cut if not good enough to keep team in Premier League).

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:44 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:32 pm
Guirrassy looks like a bit of a donkey from what I’ve seen
He reminds me of Andre gray

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:45 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:32 pm
Eddie has had a “change of heart” and is now looking at Delli Ali. The stench of desperation starting to ooze out of Newcastle?
Jealousy will get us nowhere, show some class if the boot was on the other foot we’d be throwing money at it.

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by bobinho » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:04 pm

HyperClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:03 pm
Andy Jones just about keeping my dwindling hopes alive, damn him :lol:
Had me right up until loans mentioned….
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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by bobinho » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:05 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:44 pm
He reminds me of Andre gray
Like he said…..
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