January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:30 pm

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:22 pm
Would be hilarious if Tarks ended up getting relegated with Newcastle and by some miracle we stayed up.

With Andy Carroll scoring the goals.

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:31 pm

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:22 pm
Would be hilarious if Tarks ended up getting relegated with Newcastle and by some miracle we stayed up.

Do miracles still happen? I do hope so.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:31 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:28 pm
Tarky has been a great player for us but hasn't looked (to me) like his head is in the game anymore this last couple of months. It feels like something has changed. I actually feel he was excellent towards the start of the season, but you wonder if us going into the last bit of his deal and his agent no doubt now getting inundated with deals for the summer has started to make him take his eye off the ball (literally!) and think more about then rather than now.

I would sell him for £10m to anyone but Newcastle this window (i.e, Leicester, West Ham). If Newcastle want him, they should pay an additional Saudi Tax making it £20m. They can afford it.

I notice Liverpool have today recalled Rhys Williams, their young centre back, from a loan he was on. I could see a world where we sell Tarky for £20m to Newcastle and spend £12m or so of it on Nat Phillips as his replacement. Some would say Collins is, and I think they're right - but if we go down it looks certain to me that Ben Mee would go too, so we will need another centre back soon anyway.

He’s a much better player than Wood so make it £40 million for Newcastle.

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:42 pm

Ivory Coast two up against Algeria. Looks like the holders are going out.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:43 pm

Shame we wanted Max back

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:47 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:43 pm
Shame we wanted Max back

Result of this match doesn't matter I. C. had already qualified for the next round.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:21 pm

Gordaleman wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:56 pm
If anyone doesn't know. Ivory Coast v Algeria is now live on BB i player.

Perhaps we can spot some transfer targets?

Theres a good left sided midfield player in the Algerian team called Mahrez worth keeping an eye on

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:21 pm

Tough draw for IC if as it looks they win the group. Small matter of Egypt and Mo Salah next.

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:23 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:21 pm
Theres a good left sided midfield player in the Algerian team called Mahrez worth keeping an eye on

Just missed a penalty. Not impressed, ha ha.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:29 pm

Somethingfishy wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:21 pm
Tough draw for IC if as it looks they win the group. Small matter of Egypt and Mo Salah next.

Is he that guy who’s scored ONE goal in eight games against Burnley?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:13 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:28 pm
Tarky has been a great player for us but hasn't looked (to me) like his head is in the game anymore this last couple of months. It feels like something has changed. I actually feel he was excellent towards the start of the season, but you wonder if us going into the last bit of his deal and his agent no doubt now getting inundated with deals for the summer has started to make him take his eye off the ball (literally!) and think more about then rather than now.

I would sell him for £10m to anyone but Newcastle this window (i.e, Leicester, West Ham). If Newcastle want him, they should pay an additional Saudi Tax making it £20m. They can afford it.

I notice Liverpool have today recalled Rhys Williams, their young centre back, from a loan he was on. I could see a world where we sell Tarky for £20m to Newcastle and spend £12m or so of it on Nat Phillips as his replacement. Some would say Collins is, and I think they're right - but if we go down it looks certain to me that Ben Mee would go too, so we will need another centre back soon anyway.

I think you’re being a bit harsh on Tarkowski. Prior to two, admittedly very poor performances from him, he was up there as one of the most consistent performers this season (that may not say much, but it said to me that he is committed to the cause).

As for Mee, I’m amazed that you see it as certain that he will be off if we go down. I may be being naive, but even prior to his recent comments, I felt that he would commit to a new deal.

His latest comments could be for the media / fans, I suppose. However, I read them as genuine from a bloke that’s given a lot for our club, cares for the club and wishes his ties to the club to continue beyond his current deal.

Mee isn’t the sort to spout flannel, in my opinion.

Mattster · Post by **Mattster** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:21 pm

The guy who broke Connor Roberts having his medical with us has suggested Enes Unal at Getafe is one of our foreign striker options.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:23 pm

Mattster wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:21 pm
The guy who broke Connor Roberts having his medical with us has suggested Enes Unal at Getafe is one of our foreign striker options.

Who is the guy? Can’t find it on twitter.

Mattster · Post by **Mattster** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:25 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:23 pm
Who is the guy? Can’t find it on twitter.

https://twitter.com/Fball_Insights_/sta ... 9stiQ&s=19

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:31 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:13 pm
I think you’re being a bit harsh on Tarkowski. Prior to two, admittedly very poor performances from him, he was up there as one of the most consistent performers this season (that may not say much, but it said to me that he is committed to the cause).

As for Mee, I’m amazed that you see it as certain that he will be off if we go down. I may be being naive, but even prior to his recent comments, I felt that he would commit to a new deal.

His latest comments could be for the media / fans, I suppose. However, I read them as genuine from a bloke that’s given a lot for our club, cares for the club and wishes his ties to the club to continue beyond his current deal.

Mee isn’t the sort to spout flannel, in my opinion.

I hope I’m wrong on Mee, of course I do. Just not sure what exactly the hold up would be if he was signing a new contract regardless of relegation?

I did say up until the last couple of months r.e Tarky, I agreed he was good earlier in the season. I feel a dip has been noticeable in his own performance levels in our last few games which coincidentally (perhaps) is when his agent will have had people approaching over deals from other clubs?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:47 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:31 pm
I hope I’m wrong on Mee, of course I do. Just not sure what exactly the hold up would be if he was signing a new contract regardless of relegation?

I did say up until the last couple of months r.e Tarky, I agreed he was good earlier in the season. I feel a dip has been noticeable in his own performance levels in our last few games which coincidentally (perhaps) is when his agent will have had people approaching over deals from other clubs?

To be fair, the last few months isn’t the most reliable of periods to assess. How many games have we actually played, above the two poor performances from Tarkowski? It wasn’t just him either.

I don’t really buy into players performances suffering because of speculation. It seems to be a modern phenomenon. Cross that line and I can’t see them pondering their future for whole 90 minutes.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:56 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:47 pm
To be fair, the last few months isn’t the most reliable of periods to assess. How many games have we actually played, above the two poor performances from Tarkowski? It wasn’t just him either.

I don’t really buy into players performances suffering because of speculation. It seems to be a modern phenomenon. Cross that line and I can’t see them pondering their future for whole 90 minutes.

It’s literally 2-3 games he’s been poor, at the same time as the rest of the squad, but there’s this weird myth going around that he’s playing poor because he’s leaving…
He’s arguably been our player of the season, but ‘we need to get rid now’

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:53 pm

In other news - Wolves turn down 15 mill bid from Spurs for Traore. Surely he has to be worth double that (in these crazy money times) with 18 months left on his contract?

GaryClaret · Post by **GaryClaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:57 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:56 pm
It’s literally 2-3 games he’s been poor, at the same time as the rest of the squad, but there’s this weird myth going around that he’s playing poor because he’s leaving…
He’s arguably been our player of the season, but ‘we need to get rid now’

It’s a weird myth created to comfort ourselves for when we lose one of our best players in recent times.

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:12 pm

Mattster wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:25 pm
https://twitter.com/Fball_Insights_/sta ... 9stiQ&s=19

I didn't know Getafe were referred to as the Burnley of Spain'. I wonder what the similarities are.. anti football at a guess

Makes me want to follow them now

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:13 pm

Mattster wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:21 pm
The guy who broke Connor Roberts having his medical with us has suggested Enes Unal at Getafe is one of our foreign striker options.

Don't know anything about him, but after a quick google he fits the profile, only 24, and a decent scoring record this season, what concerns me is he's only netted 28 in 146 in La Liga, hardly prolific that is it. sure he bagged a good amount in the Eredivisie, but many strikers have netted for fun in Holland, then flopped when they've came to the PL. plus he's contracted until 2025, so he may not be that cheap.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:13 pm

If Wood was sold for £25m then you would have thought Traore was at least £30m-£35m. Know who I would rather have

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:14 pm

Belial wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:12 pm
I didn't know Getafe were referred to as the Burnley of Spain'. I wonder what the similarities are.. anti football at a guess

Makes me want to follow them now

Yeah they are known for defensive, organised, rigid football.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:17 pm

Mattster wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:21 pm
The guy who broke Connor Roberts having his medical with us has suggested Enes Unal at Getafe is one of our foreign striker options.

Sounds plausible.

Last week Mayoral terminated his loan with Roma, because they weren't playing him, and moved to Getafe on loan with an option to buy. He is a striker by the way. He will certainly want game time.

Getafe also have Jose Macias at the club, another striker on loan with an option to buy, this time from Chivas. Adding to their list of forwards is Sandro Ramirez, also on loan with an option to buy, whose parent club is Huesca.

In terms of the strikers owned by them and not on loan Getafe have Enes Unal, Jaime Mata who is being used in more of a backup role and Dario Poveda.

That is a lot of strikers wanting game time for a team that plays two up top.

Unal is a tall, physical, good in the air Target man striker. Getafe commonly play 4-4-2 and his role in their line up has been similar to the role we asked Wood to play for us

This article gives an account of Unal based on his time at Real Valladolid, which reveals a player very similar to Chris Wood.

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/analy ... is-tactics

These are his stats

https://fbref.com/en/players/f8eca1b6/Enes-Unal

https://www.sofascore.com/player/enes-unal/336655

The set up suggests the makings of a potential deal, but a lot would depend on how much Getafe are willing to accept for him, providing they are open to selling him.

It's a risk, but he fits the Chris Wood profile ( apart from his lack of shooting prowess ) and he is only 24. On the financial front it makes more sense for a cash strapped club than spending £10m on a 29 year old inverted left winger who hasn't been tested in a top tier league - who will command little to no resale value.

His shots on target percentage has been fairly poor at every club Unal has played for, which confirms what the article hints at. He is a player who can get into good shooting positions, but he fails to capitalise on them. 28 goals in 146 La Liga matches, 6 of them from penalties, is not a record to brag about.

If we could sort that out then he could do very well for us. However, Getafe must have thought the same thing when they signed him. The influx of new strikers could suggest that he hasn't convinced them of his ability to deliver the goals up front. A striker that hasn't mastered the art of putting the ball in the back of the net is probably not what we need given our current predicament.

Looking at the La Liga table, with Getafe only 4 points clear of the relegation places, they might be thinking the same.

I would prefer a proven goal scoring striker, even if it is in a lesser league, one with a few years left in their career and a price tag that wouldn't compromise our Summer recruitment or a Championship rebuild if it comes to that.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:18 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:13 pm
Don't know anything about him, but after a quick google he fits the profile, only 24, and a decent scoring record this season, what concerns me is he's only netted 28 in 146 in La Liga, hardly prolific that is it. sure he bagged a good amount in the Eredivisie, but many strikers have netted for fun in Holland, then flopped when they've came to the PL. plus he's contracted until 2025, so he may not be that cheap.

It’s a goal machine by our standards

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:22 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:18 pm
It’s a goal machine by our standards

that's true.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:29 pm

“ the man who broke the Conor Roberts medical story”… it’s like Watergate !

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:30 pm

That was a pleasant surprise. Looked the at transfer thread and there’s a link.

Fingers crossed we can get some signings in.

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:44 pm

Mattster wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:21 pm
The guy who broke Connor Roberts having his medical with us has suggested Enes Unal at Getafe is one of our foreign striker options.

He signed for Man City, stayed there 2 season's never played a single league game

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:47 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:13 pm
I think you’re being a bit harsh on Tarkowski. Prior to two, admittedly very poor performances from him, he was up there as one of the most consistent performers this season (that may not say much, but it said to me that he is committed to the cause).

As for Mee, I’m amazed that you see it as certain that he will be off if we go down. I may be being naive, but even prior to his recent comments, I felt that he would commit to a new deal.

His latest comments could be for the media / fans, I suppose. However, I read them as genuine from a bloke that’s given a lot for our club, cares for the club and wishes his ties to the club to continue beyond his current deal.

Mee isn’t the sort to spout flannel, in my opinion.

Logged in just to 'Like' this post. I really don't know who these people are that criticise Ben Mee. He's been absolutely superb for us during all of the ten years he's been here. Yes, he makes mistakes occasionally, but tell me a player who doesn't? I know one thing, if we had eleven players on the pitch with his heart and passion, we wouldn't now be in the position we are. Thankfully, we've just got rid of one who didn't care anywhere near enough.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:56 pm

Unal scored tonight in a 4-2 win for getafe vs Granada

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:06 pm

Unal has 7 goals in 21 games this season including the winner against Real two weeks ago.

He may not be "prolific" over his career but he's still a much more regular scorer than Jay Rod, Vydra and Barnes who managed 3 each last season.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:20 pm

dibraidio wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:06 pm
Unal has 7 goals in 21 games this season including the winner against Real two weeks ago.

He may not be "prolific" over his career but he's still a much more regular scorer than Jay Rod, Vydra and Barnes who managed 3 each last season.

7 in 21 would be more than adequate for us, as Cornet is likely to bag a few, and we've surely got to keep clean sheets soon haven't we.

I guess the question is is he willing to swap a La Liga relegation battle for a PL one. he might be persuaded if he and no doubt his agent think he can put himself in the shop window for a bigger club to pounce.

And I'd rather we took a calculated punt on someone like him than waste funds on ageing journeymen, If it doesn't work out we'll probably still make our money back given his age, and if it does we'll have another potentially saleable asset on our hands.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:37 am

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:56 pm
Unal scored tonight in a 4-2 win for getafe vs Granada

I could score against a regional tv channel works team.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:40 am

I don’t know the guy at all but most Spanish players have great technique so he can probably take the ball into feet and hold it up. Neither Barnes or Wood were good enough at this basic striker skill.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:02 am

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:56 pm
Unal scored tonight in a 4-2 win for getafe vs Granada

His goal against Granada was very well taken. Some careless defending in that game though.

Granada Game Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ8NLMbAV5k

Last Year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxyri1CcBX0

Older Stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piE_rmsg87o

He has a lot of good qualities, industrious, hard working, the ability to press, hold up the ball, win knock downs and tie up defenders. Those skills could be used to good effect nurse-maiding Cornet, giving him the space to operate. Unal does the grunt work and Cornet grabs the Glory. That looked to be how we were using Wood and Cornet together at times. If he could contribute some goals as well that might be enough.

However, seeing Unal in the starting line-up, when they have so many strikers available, might not be a good sign. Not risking him if a transfer is on the cards would seem to be the wise move.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:47 am

minnieclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:37 am
I could score against a regional tv channel works team.

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:22 am

minnieclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:40 am
I don’t know the guy at all but most Spanish players have great technique so he can probably take the ball into feet and hold it up. Neither Barnes or Wood were good enough at this basic striker skill.

He's Turkish not Spanish

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:58 am

Mattster wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:21 pm
The guy who broke Connor Roberts having his medical with us has suggested Enes Unal at Getafe is one of our foreign striker options.

I hope for Christ’s sake if we get him people learn to spell his name properly….

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:02 am

Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:56 pm
Given that it’s a Burnley FC fans forum/message board I’m not sure what you expect to find on here….personally I don’t open threads that I’ve got no interest in or have already deemed to be nil and void. Just avoid it if needs be

But this thread is entitled “Burnley Transfer Rumours - Links - Discussion”, which implies the links and discussion are about transfer rumours and not a vehicle for armchair scouts to propose signings.

If the “links” and “discussion” are entirely unrelated to “Transfer Rumours”, maybe we could just post about any topic we fancy on the thread?

I visit the thread because I am interested in transfer rumours. I’m not interested in who people have watched (or managed on Football Manager) recently and would like to recommend to the club via a forum nobody from the club reads.

Perhaps there should be a separate armchair scout thread?

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:45 am

I propose for summer we call it

Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window. Links, Rumours, Gossip and general discussions about players we should(n’t) sign.

There used to be a links only thread that ended up with discussion and people moaned. I created a post following this to cover the wider range of discussion that took place every window and others have carried it on each window.

In truth the title means little difference to what gets discussed.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:54 am

clarethomer wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:45 am
I propose for summer we call it

Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window. Links, Rumours, Gossip and general discussions about players we should(n’t) sign.

There used to be a links only thread that ended up with discussion and people moaned. I created a post following this to cover the wider range of discussion that took place every window and others have carried it on each window.

In truth the title means little difference to what gets discussed.

The title is pretty clear to me. The problem is that any real links/news are buried quickly, so unless you spend all day on this thread (which some appear to do), chances are you’re not going to see them without wading through pages of unrelated opinions.

Even actual rumours seem to quickly descend into a discussion about players a poster would rather sign instead.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:57 am

It's Friday

Don't worry, be happy

Grimsdale · Post by **Grimsdale** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:05 am

Apparently we put in a €12m offer for Sardar Azmoun from Zenit Saint Petersburg although there are a number of teams waiting until he's out of contract in the summer.

https://twitter.com/MaxOL69/status/1484418587918049285

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:07 am

58 pages of nothing I assume?

NickBFC · Post by **NickBFC** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:15 am

bobinho wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:58 am
I hope for Christ’s sake if we get him people learn to spell his name properly….

Yes I do tend to get my u's and a's confused

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:20 am

Grimsdale wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:05 am
Apparently we put in a €12m offer for Sardar Azmoun from Zenit Saint Petersburg although there are a number of teams waiting until he's out of contract in the summer.

https://twitter.com/MaxOL69/status/1484418587918049285

The tweet links to a report by French news channel BFM TV which says he'll be going nowhere this winter, one of the replies to the tweet suggests that he's already chosen to move to Beyer Leverkusen in the summer.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:24 am

Teamtalk suggesting that we made an offer to Andy Carroll which he turned down.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:30 am

Re Carroll he was on £1000 a week at Reading ,I assume we didn't offer him less?

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:56 am

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:30 am
Re Carroll he was on £1000 a week at Reading ,I assume we didn't offer him less?

He's said in the past that money isn't a factor for him to play these day's, he wants to stay local to where he lives and to be home everyday with his wife and five children, that's why he took 1k a week to play at Reading, easily done with a personal fortune of 22 million I suppose and respect to him