Maybe he also doesn't want to try and keep Burnley up at Newcastle's expense.

Hearing Burnley have made an £8.3million bid for Zenit St Petersburg striker Sardar Azmoun according to peter O'rouke. #burnleyfc #Zenit

Reecey1987 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:05 am

Hearing Burnley have made an £8.3million bid for Zenit St Petersburg striker Sardar Azmoun according to peter O'rouke. #burnleyfc #Zenit

O’Rouke usually reliable. Good player is Azmoun though reports were suggesting he would wait until the summer for a move.

Also another bid of almost £10m despite the reports of having no cash and ALK wanting to sell etc. Interesting.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:13 am

O’Rouke usually reliable. Good player is Azmoun though reports were suggesting he would wait until the summer for a move.

Also another bid of almost £10m despite the reports of having no cash and ALK wanting to sell etc. Interesting.

Newcastle also linked now too, what is it about Newcastle and being linked with every player that we get linked with

Azmoun is not coming to Burnley, he will sit out his contract and get a nice signing on fee in the summer via a free transfer, another two premier clubs are looking at him along with 4 or 5 European clubs including Juventus, he also won't leave now because he's got another title medal to pick up come the end of the season, it's fake news from the media or smoke and mirrors from Pace and co.

Let's please just fast forward to 11:59pm on Monday, January 31, 2022, and get our transfer window over and limp towards the Championship

The Athletic also reporting that Andy Carroll has turned us down. Does it get any more depressing than even Carroll not wanting to join us (thank goodness)?

Steddyman wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:55 am

The Athletic also reporting that Andy Carroll has turned us down. Does it get any more depressing than even Carroll not wanting to join us (thank goodness)?

Maybe Pace just told Dyche he’d tried to sign him but no luck?

Steddyman wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:55 am

The Athletic also reporting that Andy Carroll has turned us down. Does it get any more depressing than even Carroll not wanting to join us (thank goodness)?

I am sure you will quickly find something else

Azmoun would be superb but he's been linked with Juve so I don't see it happening.

ecc wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:05 am

Azmoun would be superb but he's been linked with Juve so I don't see it happening.

Yep.

No idea if these rumours are true but the calibre af player we are going after is very pleasing.

Well, we convinced Maxwell to join us. Not sure if we would have been successful with that bid though if we would have been bottom of the Premier League at the time with relegation clauses in the contract.

Carroll probably wants 100K a week with no relegation clause to continue being rubbish. This would be an appalling signing and would be up there with the Crouch one. We need 3 starters in. Just over a week to go. Tick Tock. Desperate Times.

Alex James now reporting there is truth in the Azmoun rumour.

Lyon apparently in talks with him over a pre-contract arrangement.

I refuse to accept that any contact with Carroll was more than smokescreen. It simply does not fit with what we have always been told ALK and Burnley will be operating. I don’t for a second think there was any serious attempt made to sign him. I suspect the agent contacted Burnley, we talked to him, but didn’t follow it up… which when it became obvious we were looking elsewhere, led to the Carroll claim he is turning us down.

Reecey1987 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:37 am

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... atest?s=09

Does appear as though we’re focussing on Orsic and Azmoun from latest reports. Quite a lot of Vincent’s around these two from the media.

A real shame the Fofana interest was not reciprocated.

*consensus

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:40 am

I refuse to accept that any contact with Carroll was more than smokescreen. It simply does not fit with what we have always been told ALK and Burnley will be operating. I don’t for a second think there was any serious attempt made to sign him. I suspect the agent contacted Burnley, we talked to him, but didn’t follow it up… which when it became obvious we were looking elsewhere, led to the Carroll claim he is turning us down.

Few of us or none of us will know the entire strategy. That's only available to Dyche & Pace and their tiny inner circle.

What would you do if you had a backup option (eg. Carroll)?

I'd speak to him, let him know we were interested but offer him a low wage that he might reject. He'd know we were interested but it would give us time to get higher priority targets over the line first.

If we land the better targets, Carroll can stay put.

If we don't land the better targets, I'd increase the offer to Carroll.

It's hypothetical but just putting the potential scenario out there.

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:40 am

I refuse to accept that any contact with Carroll was more than smokescreen. It simply does not fit with what we have always been told ALK and Burnley will be operating. I don’t for a second think there was any serious attempt made to sign him. I suspect the agent contacted Burnley, we talked to him, but didn’t follow it up… which when it became obvious we were looking elsewhere, led to the Carroll claim he is turning us down.

The Athlletic article says we are still in negotiations with Andy Carroll and we are expected to submit an improved offer to him.

As we approach window closure the benefit of signing Carroll improves. I hope we get an additional striker too.When did we last have too many strikers and would rather play him alongside Jay Rod than Lennon. Looks like Barnes and Vydra could be injured for most of this season

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:39 am

Lyon apparently in talks with him over a pre-contract arrangement.

That's been ongoing since November apparently and still not resolved.

Steddyman wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:55 am

The Athletic also reporting that Andy Carroll has turned us down. Does it get any more depressing than even Carroll not wanting to join us (thank goodness)?

Maybe he turned us down because he doesn't want to help relegate Newcastle? That's certainly one reason I wouldn't sign him, although the fact that he's a thug is the main reason. Our 'No red card' record wouldn't last long with him here. And he wouldn't be any good to us suspended.

Steddyman wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:55 am

The Athletic also reporting that Andy Carroll has turned us down. Does it get any more depressing than even Carroll not wanting to join us (thank goodness)?

Good he's crap

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:43 am

Looks like Barnes and Vydra could be injured for most of this season

Barnes on the grass and Vydra could be available on Sunday

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:08 pm

Barnes on the grass and Vydra could be available on Sunday

I take it he's had his op then?

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:08 pm

Barnes on the grass and Vydra could be available on Sunday

You'd have thought Ashley would have learnt his lesson after his drink driving ban....

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:15 pm

I take it he's had his op then?

He postponed it. Hopefully willing to dig in and help us survive this year.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:15 pm

I take it he's had his op then?

If he has it'll be the quickest ever recovery from an hernia operation there has ever been.

I'd say he's playing through it until we get some more bodies back fit/in.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:15 pm

I take it he's had his op then?

Nursing him through it was what I heard although for how long I don't know. I think this is why he's being used sparingly.

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:33 am

Carroll probably wants 100K a week with no relegation clause to continue being rubbish. This would be an appalling signing and would be up there with the Crouch one. We need 3 starters in. Just over a week to go. Tick Tock. Desperate Times.

He was on £1,000 per week at Reading Maybe he just wants to play but understandably wants some stability such as a contract beyond this season.

Athletic also reporting that we’ve bid for Azmoun. Interesting one with Lyon/Juve linked but we must have some encouragement to bother bidding.

Steddyman wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:01 am

The Athlletic article says we are still in negotiations with Andy Carroll and we are expected to submit an improved offer to him.

Whether or not this is true or not
We’ll be playing 2 games a week soon, a game every 3 or 4 days, Carroll will last 2 to 3 games and then be injured for 10 games
If Dyche thinks our defence is fine as it is and won’t play Collins, then I’d rather play Collins up front than Carroll

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:37 pm

Athletic also reporting that we’ve bid for Azmoun. Interesting one with Lyon/Juve linked but we must have some encouragement to bother bidding.

AC Milan and Leverkusan interested as well. How will the poor lad choose!

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:47 pm

AC Milan and Leverkusan interested as well. How will the poor lad choose!

I suppose, and I know this sounds wild, but we may be able to offer higher wages right now plus incentives for scoring etc. He can get a relegation clause in for roughly what we paid and if we stay up he gets a healthy bonus and Prem footy.

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:47 pm

AC Milan and Leverkusan interested as well. How will the poor lad choose!

Does sound an incredibly unlikely one

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:47 pm

AC Milan and Leverkusan interested as well. How will the poor lad choose!

If we can sign a player as good as Maxwel Cornet then who knows?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:56 pm

If we can sign a player as good as Maxwel Cornet then who knows?

Slight difference here I think. Firstly Cornet was signed when we weren’t rock bottom midway through the season. Second our competition for him was seemingly Hertha Berlin. Thirdly he was played left back for the past season or two so probably was more under the radar to come in and play winger/striker.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:56 pm

If we can sign a player as good as Maxwel Cornet then who knows?

Maxwel Cornet had spent the previous two or three seasons at Lyon having his stock destroyed by being played at left back. He’s a slightly special case.

Either way, I’m glad we’re at least attempting to sign this calibre of player.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:02 pm

Either way, I’m glad we’re at least attempting to sign this calibre of player.

I’m also happy we’re going for these types of players, but if trying to sign them means we miss out on more attainable targets, and leave ourselves with no new recruits, the difficult task we face this season could well become an impossible task!

It's getting to the stage where I would consider getting Carroll in as a "marquee" signing

Bigvince wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:10 pm

I’m also happy we’re going for these types of players, but if trying to sign them means we miss out on more attainable targets, and leave ourselves with no new recruits, the difficult task we face this season could well become an impossible task!

The task will be a lot harder with a squad of lower quality players. One or two additions of real quality would be far more beneficial to our chances of avoiding relegation.

I’m not against Carroll signing. We’re in a massive fight now and he’d be more than up for it if called upon.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:13 pm

The task will be a lot harder with a squad of lower quality players. One or two additions of real quality would be far more beneficial to our chances of avoiding relegation.

Agreed, but we need to have contingencies in place, in case we fail in our pursuit of our first choice targets.

These links are all well and good, but we need players through the door, sooner rather than later. We’ve been fortunate in some respects that January has seen hardly any football, which has bought us a little breathing space.

It’s all well and good seeing links, we need to see some substance. I’m sure we’ve all seen enough transfer windows with no end product to last us ten seasons!

If it comes down to the wire with no new recruits, it’ll look a lot more likely these links were nothing more than a ruse to avert the gaze of supporters from the off field rumblings.

We know January isn’t easy, it’s even harder if the focus is on the unattainable. Let’s just pray that there’s a well thought out plan being actioned.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:17 pm

If he has it'll be the quickest ever recovery from an hernia operation there has ever been.

I'd say he's playing through it until we get some more bodies back fit/in.

How long would he be out for?

Just seems silly when he hasn't played for 6 week. Would have been ideal.

Must think we can keep him going until he leaves in the summer?

Patrick Roberts (Man C) to Sunderland 6 month loan with an option at the end aprox 3m

We tried for him around 5 yrs ago
It seems he wasn't quite the prospect people thought he would be.As his career has stalled somewhat.