Is Watford a must win?

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Is Watford a must win?

Post by Milltown1882 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:53 pm

Continuing the trend of recent weeks.

Yes it 100% is.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:54 pm

Nope, 3 points will be massive but a loss in December wont end our season by a long shot
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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by conyoviejo » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:55 pm

I'd say it's a mustn't lose .

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by jurek » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:57 pm

Can't afford to lose against Watford and we need to
keep within distance of those above us and hope that we can
turn things around soon, very soon.
Lose to Watford and I think we're gonners.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Andreshotboots » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:57 pm

I'd say yes. It's obviously not going to seal our fate should we lose, but we really have to start winning football matches and get some momentum going..

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:00 pm

Yes

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by box_of_frogs » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:01 pm

Yes, you need to beat the teams near the bottom if you want to stay up.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:01 pm

Every game is must win until we are out of this mess.

7-8 wins required from 23 games. They have got to start coming from somewhere

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:02 pm

No must win games for weeks and weeks and weeks

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by SGr » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:03 pm

Yeah course it is.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:03 pm

Must not lose and preferably not another bloody draw

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Tribesmen » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:05 pm

Nope not at all , but would be happy if we won

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:06 pm

jurek wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:57 pm
Lose to Watford and I think we're gonners.
:lol: :lol:

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Peter Loo » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:09 pm

Leicester 4 Newcastle 0 and Eddie Howe (not to defend) out by christmas :)

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by TsarBomba » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:11 pm

Absolutely must win. No doubt about it.
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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Stu » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:19 pm

Yes must win game we have to beat the teams around us.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:21 pm

Can somebody add it to the list….. thanks in advance.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by mikeS » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:30 pm

Yes it is a must win.
A win takes us above them and onto 14 points.
A defeat leaves us languishing in the relegation zone.
We need to win ten games and Watford should be one of them.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Elizabeth » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:33 pm

It’s one we have to win

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Sheedyclaret » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:08 pm

I think so need to start winning and soon
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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Stayingup » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:19 pm

It is.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by taio » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:21 pm

No.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:24 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:21 pm
No.
I’m interested to know at what point games become must win for you?

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:24 pm

I said Newcastle was a "mustn't lose" and we did. If we lose to Watford it will surely be terminal. Not NECESSARILY a must win, but DEFINITELY a mustn't lose!

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by taio » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:28 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:24 pm
I’m interested to know at what point games become must win for you?
Not yet. Wednesday is a big game but if we draw on Wednesday i don't believe that means we will be relegated. You are obviously surprised at me saying this but I was perplexed at you saying Wolves away was a must win.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:29 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:28 pm
Not yet. Wednesday is a big game but if we draw on Wednesday i don't believe that means we will be relegated. You are obviously surprised at me saying this but I was perplexed at you saying Wolves away was a must win.
I think every game at the moment is a must win.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by taio » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:32 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:29 pm
I think every game at the moment is a must win.
I don't. Wolves away was a decent result and point for example with so many games still to go.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Milltown1882 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:33 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:32 pm
I don't. Wolves away was a decent result and point for example with so many games still to go.
You are aware we’ve won one football match out of 15 this season?

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:33 pm

it's more than 3 points, the damage done to the losing side will be massive.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by taio » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:34 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:33 pm
You are aware we’ve won one football match out of 15 this season?
Yes.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:35 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:28 pm
Not yet. Wednesday is a big game but if we draw on Wednesday i don't believe that means we will be relegated. You are obviously surprised at me saying this but I was perplexed at you saying Wolves away was a must win.
How about.... when you must win, or something bad will happen?

There can be important to win games, 6 pointers, etc..... but MUST win is in the name,

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:36 pm

To be honest, I’m getting to the stage where I don’t really care.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:36 pm

I'd take a much better attacking performance to be honest

We've certainly successfully shored up at the back, but at the cost of nearly all our creative and goal scoring spark that was there

I think a defeat wouldn't be terminal, but a defeat and a terrible performance possibly could be

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by taio » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:38 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:35 pm
How about.... when you must win, or something bad will happen?

There can be important to win games, 6 pointers, etc..... but MUST win is in the name,
Exactly. Wednesday is a very important game. But if we say draw it doesn't mean it will or is very likely to be terminal or catastrophic which is what I regard as 'must win'. Must win games rarely occur in December with 23 games still to play.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:46 pm

The "must win" games generally occur in, say, the last eight or ten games of the season when you are lnot winning enough points and games are running out.

We could beat Watford handsomely and then lose the next two or three. A win would be a massive boost short -term, a defeat a massive blow short-term but that's all - nothing, absolutely nothing will be determined one way or another.

Level of performance and our approach will be of vital importance.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:58 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:46 pm
The "must win" games generally occur in, say, the last eight or ten games of the season when you are lnot winning enough points and games are running out.

We could beat Watford handsomely and then lose the next two or three. A win would be a massive boost short -term, a defeat a massive blow short-term but that's all - nothing, absolutely nothing will be determined one way or another.

Level of performance and our approach will be of vital importance.
I disagree, we need short term wins to put us in a position to be able to attract players in January.

If we are 6-8 points adrift no decent player would want to come

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:01 pm

A draw wouldn’t be an unmitigated disaster but I’d lump on us getting relegated if we fail to pick up all three points.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:03 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:01 pm
A draw wouldn’t be an unmitigated disaster but I’d lump on us getting relegated if we fail to pick up all three points.
If Burnley were to lose, what price would you want in order to "Lump On"?

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:01 pm
Every game is must win until we are out of this mess.

7-8 wins required from 23 games. They have got to start coming from somewhere
So every game isn't must win then?

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:05 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:03 pm
If Burnley were to lose, what price would you want in order to "Lump On"?
It’s just a saying, Dan, but if I was a betting man (and I’m not) then whatever they’re offering.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by taio » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:09 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:58 pm
I disagree, we need short term wins to put us in a position to be able to attract players in January.

If we are 6-8 points adrift no decent player would want to come
What happens if we don't win a must win game?

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:10 pm

Both games were must win 2 points dropped today. We now need 3 points against a very average Watford team
Attack from the off no excuses

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:11 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:09 pm
What happens if we don't win a must win game?
I think you can class these games as must win because if we don’t we won’t attract the players in Jan to keep us up

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:12 pm

We really need a win, not particularly because it's Watford but because we need to reach 40ish points and we won't do it with draws alone

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by taio » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:14 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:11 pm
I think you can class these games as must win because if we don’t we won’t attract the players in Jan to keep us up
It's an odd way of defining a must win game

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:26 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:10 pm
Both games were must win 2 points dropped today. We now need 3 points against a very average Watford team
Attack from the off no excuses
,we started the game on 10 points we ended the game on 11 points, that's 1 point gained not 2 points dropped
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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:39 pm

I think it is more important for moral going into Christmas, rather than point value. No matter how professional a player is it is easier to play well in mid table than around the bottom. The sooner we get out the better the football and the higher we finish.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:49 pm

A defeat or draw wouldn't finish our season, but we really need to dent our relegation rivals, so yes for me it's a game we have to treat as a must win.

I'd have settled for 4 points against the Hammers and Watford, however if we could only win 1 it would be the latter, simply because it ensures we climb out of the bottom 3, I think for the 1st time this season, and purely for belief that would be a huge boost.

It's strange talking about must win games when we've only lost 2 in 10, but the amount of draws isn't doing us any favours, so although points are welcome against the likes of Chelsea & West Ham, it's the 6 pointers playing those around us that will ultimately determine our fate.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by dougcollins » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:53 pm

100% must win.

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Re: Is Watford a must win?

Post by Yeovil1951 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:04 pm

Last 31 Premier home games we have beaten only 6 teams WAT, PAL, WOL, SHEFF, VILLA, BRENT, and only Watford and Sheff Unt went down ,Since Covid we have been rubbish at home WHY

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