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Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:27 pm

Doing the rounds on Twitter this game is now postponed

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by tiger76 » Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:06 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:27 pm
Doing the rounds on Twitter this game is now postponed
No idea but given Sours played in the EFL Cup only a few days ago they should be able to play, so unless there's a problem at Palace's end I don't see any reason why it shouldn't go ahead.

However given how quickly fixtures are falling by the wayside nothing would surprise me anymore.

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:09 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:06 pm
No idea but given Sours played in the EFL Cup only a few days ago they should be able to play, so unless there's a problem at Palace's end I don't see any reason why it shouldn't go ahead.

However given how quickly fixtures are falling by the wayside nothing would surprise me anymore.
Apparently a number of the Palace back room staff have tested positive. I can only assume a large majority of the squad must not be vaccinated for this to be postponed

Daily mail etc… now saying it looks like it is off.

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Post by kentonclaret » Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:54 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:09 pm
Apparently a number of the Palace back room staff have tested positive. I can only assume a large majority of the squad must not be vaccinated for this to be postponed

Daily mail etc… now saying it looks like it is off.

Somewhat ironic if true given that Selhurst Park was given over several times during the summer for use as a Covid vaccination centre. :x

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by DCWat » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:23 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:09 pm
Apparently a number of the Palace back room staff have tested positive. I can only assume a large majority of the squad must not be vaccinated for this to be postponed

Daily mail etc… now saying it looks like it is off.
What has their vaccination status go to do with it? We know you can still catch covid having been vaccinated, so surely this isn’t the issue.

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by dsr » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:42 am

DCWat wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:23 am
What has their vaccination status go to do with it? We know you can still catch covid having been vaccinated, so surely this isn’t the issue.
Different isolation rules for unvaccinated. Vaccinated close contacts don't have to isolate, unvaccinated close contacts do. A number of clubs, like Watford, simply don't care about following covid guidelines because it's easier just to call a game off rather than follow some fairly simple rules.
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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:48 am

It goes against the concept that certain clubs are purposely deploying subterfuge with the fixture postponements & brazenly dismissing the plausibility of genuine COVID cases, it’s strange why palace wouldn’t want to play this unlikely to be relegated & no further ambitions elsewhere.

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:50 am

DCWat wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:23 am
What has their vaccination status go to do with it? We know you can still catch covid having been vaccinated, so surely this isn’t the issue.
Because if they are unvaccinated they have to isolate if a close contact
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Post by Sean Dyche's Watch » Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:20 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:50 am
Because if they are unvaccinated they have to isolate if a close contact
What constitutes a 'close contact'?

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:24 am

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:20 am
What constitutes a 'close contact'?
No idea what palaces policy is, however I believe most places have embraced the 2m rule. If you have spent time within 2m of the contact you are classed as close contact.

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:27 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:24 am
No idea what palaces policy is, however I believe most places have embraced the 2m rule. If you have spent time within 2m of the contact you are classed as close contact.
That many people are getting it do you really think people are following the rules or even give a sh1t I don’t.

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:46 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:27 am
That many people are getting it do you really think people are following the rules or even give a sh1t I don’t.
I don’t think people are following the rules but I suspect that is why Palace have asked for the game to called off. Too many players now having to isolate

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:04 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:46 am
I don’t think people are following the rules but I suspect that is why Palace have asked for the game to called off. Too many players now having to isolate
It’s meant to be less severe than the other variants people are going to get it anyway we need to all crack on with our life’s & act normal & accept the vast majority of the people are going to have the symptoms of a common cold.

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:41 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:04 am
It’s meant to be less severe than the other variants people are going to get it anyway we need to all crack on with our life’s & act normal & accept the vast majority of the people are going to have the symptoms of a common cold.
It’s not me that’s makes the rules haha. Email the government

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Post by jrgbfc » Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:03 am

Looks like the PL are going to force Palace to play. Maybe they've realised they need to start getting a bit tougher or else the season will never get finished.
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Post by basil6345789 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:16 am

Zaha been called-up for Africa Cup.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:18 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:03 am
Looks like the PL are going to force Palace to play. Maybe they've realised they need to start getting a bit tougher or else the season will never get finished.
If that's the case then at least we know our games against Man U. & Leeds will go ahead.

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Post by cl40 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:15 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:03 am
Looks like the PL are going to force Palace to play. Maybe they've realised they need to start getting a bit tougher or else the season will never get finished.
Shame they didn’t get tough with Everton then? If it was the other way round and Spurs were in the position Palace are in would the game still be played?

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Post by cl40 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:17 pm

I am still massively ****** off about today by the way! 😡

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:19 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:18 am
If that's the case then at least we know our games against Man U. & Leeds will go ahead.
We don't. There could be a lot of cases at Man U, Leeds or Burnley yet that force a postponement.

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Post by ecc » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:29 pm

Conte not complaining yet?

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:54 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:18 am
If that's the case then at least we know our games against Man U. & Leeds will go ahead.
The PL will be looking at all applications for postponements on a case to case basis & palace haven’t passed the threshold required for the postponement to be granted. Everything will be based on some sort of criterion if we or anybody have insufficient numbers ours will be postponed as others will be, palace probably have enough numbers it’s extremely laughable to think that some sort of a conspiracy agenda is taking place.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:58 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:54 pm
The PL will be looking at all applications for postponements on a case to case basis & palace haven’t passed the threshold required for the postponement to be granted. Everything will be based on some sort of criterion if we or anybody have insufficient numbers ours will be postponed as others will be, palace probably have enough numbers it’s extremely laughable to think that some sort of a conspiracy agenda is taking place.
Do you really think Everton suddenly picked up a few more injuries in the space of 24 hours and genuinely couldn't field a team all of a sudden?

Even you must think they were really bending the rules, surely?
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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:02 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:58 pm
Do you really think Everton suddenly picked up a few more injuries in the space of 24 hours and genuinely couldn't field a team all of a sudden?

Even you must think they were really bending the rules, surely?
It’s possible that some could have had or more cases of covid were detected or more cases of isolation, the application had merit to be approved otherwise everybody would be trying it on.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:05 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:02 pm
It’s possible that some could have had or more cases of covid were detected or more cases of isolation, the application had merit to be approved otherwise everybody would be trying it on.
But the game got postponed due to additional injuries, not covid cases. There is no way on earth that a calf injury can be disproved, for example, if the player says it's sore.

Ans as Chris Boden tweeted:
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Postponed because of further injuries?! Setting a dangerous precedent this.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:11 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:05 pm
But the game got postponed due to additional injuries, not covid cases. There is no way on earth that a calf injury can be disproved, for example, if the player says it's sore.

Ans as Chris Boden tweeted:
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Postponed because of further injuries?! Setting a dangerous precedent this.
That was the reason that got stated yes but like I’ve already stated repeatedly if you’ve got an high number of covid cases it wouldn’t take many injuries in addition to tip the balance, people are mistakenly viewing covid & injuries as separate entities the PL are viewing them as combined, palace have mcarthur & Ferguson injured only & less covid cases than Everton did & less injuries, it’s a combined figure that’s being assessed not covid only or injuries only.

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Post by taio » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:13 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:05 pm
But the game got postponed due to additional injuries, not covid cases. There is no way on earth that a calf injury can be disproved, for example, if the player says it's sore.

Ans as Chris Boden tweeted:
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Postponed because of further injuries?! Setting a dangerous precedent this.
It was both.

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Post by dsr » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:22 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:11 pm
That was the reason that got stated yes but like I’ve already stated repeatedly if you’ve got an high number of covid cases it wouldn’t take many injuries in addition to tip the balance, people are mistakenly viewing covid & injuries as separate entities the PL are viewing them as combined, palace have mcarthur & Ferguson injured only & less covid cases than Everton did & less injuries, it’s a combined figure that’s being assessed not covid only or injuries only.
Everton had 15 fit outfield players (6 of whom Benitez didn't consider worth a place in the team, hence his claim of 9) when the first appeal for postponement was made. 5 had covid, 6 were injured, they have used 26 outfield players this season in the league. With their further "injuries", they are down to 13 or less.

We have used 18 outfield players. Currently Barnes, Cornet and Stephens are injured that we know about, and possibly Roberts isn't fit yet. So we have 15 or 14. If we get one more outfield injury, so our total squad excluding covid plus injuries is the same size as Everton's, can we get matches postponed?

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:30 pm

dsr wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:22 pm
Everton had 15 fit outfield players (6 of whom Benitez didn't consider worth a place in the team, hence his claim of 9) when the first appeal for postponement was made. 5 had covid, 6 were injured, they have used 26 outfield players this season in the league. With their further "injuries", they are down to 13 or less.

We have used 18 outfield players. Currently Barnes, Cornet and Stephens are injured that we know about, and possibly Roberts isn't fit yet. So we have 15 or 14. If we get one more outfield injury, so our total squad excluding covid plus injuries is the same size as Everton's, can we get matches postponed?
If our application is approved based on merit then yes we can, I don’t know the criteria which would need to meet that though, lots of variables are in place & like for like probably would be unusual. Everton & Watford satisfied the PL with the application palace haven’t assuming palace submitted an application.

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Post by Sean Dyche's Watch » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:33 pm

Leeds' game against Aston Villa, scheduled for Tuesday, has been postponed.

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Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:40 pm

Maybe it's time for the doctors to have to sign the players off.

If they come under scrutinty and risk losing their jobs for lying or falsifying (aka Bloodgate), there'll be less injuries.


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Post by thelaughingclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:44 pm

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:33 pm
Leeds' game against Aston Villa, scheduled for Tuesday, has been postponed.
Leeds have had it called off. Looking more and more likely next Sundays game will be off. No surprise.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:46 pm

thelaughingclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:44 pm
Leeds have had it called off. Looking more and more likely next Sundays game will be off. No surprise.
Providing there are no more cases then isn't the isolation period seven days (reduced from ten), so should be ok?

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Post by thelaughingclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:48 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:46 pm
Providing there are no more cases then isn't the isolation period seven days (reduced from ten), so should be ok?
The isolation period depends on vaccination status doesn’t it?
I am not optimistic. If Leeds don’t want to play the game they will make sure they get the required number of injuries.
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Post by RVclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:49 pm

thelaughingclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:48 pm
The isolation period depends on vaccination status doesn’t it?
I am not optimistic. If Leeds don’t want to play the game they will make sure they get the required number of injuries.
Leeds are 100% vaccinated, both on field and off field staff.

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Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:19 pm
We don't. There could be a lot of cases at Man U, Leeds or Burnley yet that force a postponement.
Every chance the Leeds game will be off alas, given they've just had their game against Villa called off.

Leeds United's Premier League game against Aston Villa on Tuesday has been postponed because of Covid-19 cases at the Yorkshire club.

Leeds' game at Liverpool on 26 December had already been called off.

A club statement said there had been no new Covid cases but the majority of those who had already tested positive were still isolating so there were not enough "recognised first-team players".

In total, 14 games in England's top flight have been postponed in December.

What caught my eye was no new covid cases, but they were still unable to field a squad apparently.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:56 pm

It does feel like the perfect storm at the moment in the we seem to be unlucky in getting teams that are catching the virus at the optimum time.

We are going to have a lot of games to catch up on many teams.

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Post by KRBFC » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:01 pm

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:33 pm
Leeds' game against Aston Villa, scheduled for Tuesday, has been postponed.
Not surprised, Leeds against Arsenal were down to the bare bones without a single first teamer on the subs bench.

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Post by jackmiggins » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:02 pm

Not sure how many times the science needs banging into people’s heads. Unvaccinated means transmission is more prolific than if someone is vaccinated. The more unvaccinated people in a group OBVIOUSLY means that transmission to others is a MUCH greater risk!

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:11 pm

Only one change to Palace’s first 11 from their last match…

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Post by Spijed » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:12 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:11 pm
Only one change to Palace’s first 11 from their last match…
So why on earth did they want it postponing?

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:44 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:12 pm
So why on earth did they want it postponing?
Because people on twitter said so & that’s what’s true & that’s we need to believe :roll:

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Post by Spijed » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:49 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:44 pm
Because people on twitter said so & that’s what’s true & that’s we need to believe :roll:
Palace officially asked for it to be postponed, nothing to do with twitter

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:52 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:49 pm
Palace officially asked for it to be postponed, nothing to do with twitter
If you look at the OP that’s where the news first broke! People on twitter were jumping the gun & prematurely claiming the match was off before the PL had even made any decision.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:54 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:52 pm
If you look at the OP that’s where the news first broke! People on twitter were jumping the gun & prematurely claiming the match was off before the PL had even made any decision.
But all I asked was why did they want it called off if they've just had to make one change.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:55 pm

Seems odd. Few players on the the bench missing that I can see plus the manager.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:58 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:54 pm
But all I asked was why did they want it called off if they've just had to make one change.
Because that’s what some people do, vieras got it so everybody associated with CPFC must have it, with some people you can have a bowl of cereal for breakfast & before you know it you’ve had a 4 course meal. Did palace even officially ask for the game to be called off I’m not sure if you can post something contrary to that fair dos.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:02 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:58 pm
Because that’s what some people do, vieras got it so everybody associated with CPFC must have it, with some people you can have a bowl of cereal for breakfast & before you know it you’ve had a 4 course meal. Did palace even officially ask for the game to be called off I’m not sure if you can post something contrary to that fair dos.
From the Guardian:

"Palace were in discussions with the Premier League on Christmas Day about postponing their trip across the capital following a number of new positive cases, but it is understood the league were dissatisfied with the late application."

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Post by IanMcL » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:35 pm

Some think the world of prem football is run by saints and whose member teams (the desired ones) are as honest as the day is long.

Everything is stacked against teams like Burnley and our survival and success is nothing short of a miracle.

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Re: Palace vs spurs postponed?

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:08 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:02 pm
From the Guardian:

"Palace were in discussions with the Premier League on Christmas Day about postponing their trip across the capital following a number of new positive cases, but it is understood the league were dissatisfied with the late application."
So if I read this right, CP applied for their trip to Spurs to be cancelled the day before, and the PL though their application was too late, yet Burnley's games with Villa and Watford were pulled about 2 hours before KO, nice to see consistency is alive and well in the PL isn't it.

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