Man Utd v the Clarets - match thread

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:02 pm

Rangnick:

"Burnley is very direct, very physical and we need to have solutions against that, both on the ball and against the ball.”

“Yes but this is Premier League football," he added when asked if it will be harder against relegation-threatened Burnley.

"Most of the teams play like that, even when I watched the games [on Boxing Day I saw that], it is physical football. We need to take that on and be able to compete on that level.”

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:05 pm

Time for a scalp! Come on lads, you can do this!!

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:05 pm

Some rumours on Twitter that this game might go ahead.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:09 pm

Leaving it a bit late to call it off as usual

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:25 pm

As Stan would say, I hope our lot haven't "had too much plumb duff"

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:29 pm

Ralf's started early and looks well up for it.

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NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:35 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:29 pm
Ralf's started early and looks well up for it.

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tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:36 pm

Lawro says 3-0

...but what the **** would he know?!

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:44 pm

Is being “physical” a bad thing? It’s certainly portrayed as such.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:45 pm

Snap your hands off for a point tonight.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:47 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:44 pm
Is being “physical” a bad thing? It’s certainly portrayed as such.

https://youtu.be/vWz9VN40nCA

PadihamThickNeck · Post by **PadihamThickNeck** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:54 pm

Ronaldo to be benched for Cavani…,

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:54 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:47 pm
https://youtu.be/vWz9VN40nCA

That’s confirmed then

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:07 pm

Suggestions Pope is out, and a couple of other squad members missing.

Only a rumour but was told 5 youngsters were on standby, but you would expect that with the daily tests, and it could be a "just in case" type situation.

LordBob · Post by **LordBob** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:32 pm

I have a sneaky, warm and happy feeling about tonight and it's got nothing to do with sherry.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:54 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:44 pm
Is being “physical” a bad thing? It’s certainly portrayed as such.

Not if you like watching British football....which the world does.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:03 pm

All those red cards we get show how physical we are !

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:27 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:07 pm
Suggestions Pope is out, and a couple of other squad members missing.

Only a rumour but was told 5 youngsters were on standby, but you would expect that with the daily tests, and it could be a "just in case" type situation.

Pope out could be a blessing, he's not had the best of season's so far

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:35 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:27 pm
Pope out could be a blessing, he's not had the best of season's so far

Wow, he was a bit shaky at the beginning but the last few matches he has been back to himself and we would definitely be stronger with him between the posts.

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:37 pm

Sky reporting that Dale Is available for selection tonight!,

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:38 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:44 pm
Is being “physical” a bad thing? It’s certainly portrayed as such.

My one criticism (well I have more but you know...) is that we are NOT physical at all.

Guys on drugs.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:40 pm

Guller Bull wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:37 pm
Sky reporting that Dale Is available for selection tonight!,

He may provide the extra solidity in front of the back four that allows us to be a bit more adventurous going forward.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:45 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:27 pm
Pope out could be a blessing, he's not had the best of season's so far

Seriously?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:50 pm

Guller Bull wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:37 pm
Sky reporting that Dale Is available for selection tonight!,

If stephens is fully fit he starts for me. We need something different in the middle of the park

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:51 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:27 pm
Pope out could be a blessing, he's not had the best of season's so far

???
Tongue firmly in cheek?

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:52 pm

Really looking forward to tonight . I'm in the United end next to the tunnel with a friends spare season ticket . Hopefully I'll be sat on my hands with a great feeling inside !! I'll let you know how noisy we were .

HitchinClaret · Post by **HitchinClaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:56 pm

1-0 win for us with a Dale Stephens thunderbolt from 25 yards.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:08 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:27 pm
Pope out could be a blessing, he's not had the best of season's so far

I thought he was recently showing signs of coming back to his best

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:09 pm

HitchinClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:56 pm
1-0 win for us with a Dale Stephens thunderbolt from 25 yards.

I doubt Dale Stephens will get within 25 yards of their goal, if he even gets on the pitch.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:19 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:50 pm
If stephens is fully fit he starts for me. We need something different in the middle of the park

I know you're not a Brownhill fan, but jeez, we may aswell bring Dean Marney back if you think Dale Stephens is the answer.

The guy will probably get injured getting on the bus.

He is the definition of past it and legs have gone.
And to think some give Jack Cork a hard time...

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:21 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:19 pm
I know you're not a Brownhill fan, but jeez, we may aswell bring Dean Marney back if you think Dale Stephens is the answer.

The guy will probably get injured getting on the bus.

He is the definition of past it and legs have gone.
And to think some give Jack Cork a hard time...

I disagree he has been injured since he came to the club. If he’s fully fit now I say we give him a go. We know what he can do from his Brighton days.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:26 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:50 pm
If stephens is fully fit he starts for me. We need something different in the middle of the park

Leave this stuff to DA

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:28 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:26 pm

Leave this stuff to DA

I just don’t understand the hate Stephens gets. I still think he’s got a big part to play this season.

Let’s be honest it can’t get much worse in the centre of the park.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:33 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:28 pm
I just don’t understand the hate Stephens gets. I still think he’s got a big part to play this season.

Let’s be honest it can’t get much worse in the centre of the park.

I’m not biting, sorry

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:34 pm

If we are seeing Stephens as our savior then we are in even bigger trouble than I thought

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:36 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:33 pm
I’m not biting, sorry

I just don’t understand how a lad with 100 premier league appearances has been dismissed by nearly our entire fan base after what 5 games whilst injured?

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:41 pm

If we are seeing Stephens as some sort of saviour it shows just how weak the rest of our current central midfield is

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:49 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:21 pm
I disagree he has been injured since he came to the club. If he’s fully fit now I say we give him a go. We know what he can do from his Brighton days.

In that case as we need goals, what's Bobby Zamora and Craig McKail-Smith up too?

Must try harder

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:56 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:49 pm
In that case as we need goals, what's Bobby Zamora and Craig McKail-Smith up too?

Must try harder

Say what you want but I think he’s going to offer us something before the end of the season. He’s got to

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:56 pm

Our midfield is beyond Awful ,so giving Stephens a run out will hardly do any harm . Though it’s pitiful that he represents our “ depth” hopefully a high end mid beckons in the window and we make do and hang in

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:00 pm

We need something different in midfield. Quite whether that is Dale Stephens, just back from a lengthy lay off and older (just) than Cork and Westwood, I have my doubts.

If, as is often claimed, Cork’s legs have gone, i dread to think where Stephens legs are right now!!

Whether he does or doesn’t play, he deserves a fair crack of the whip though.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:02 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:00 pm
We need something different in midfield. Quite whether that is Dale Stephens, just back from a lengthy lay off and older (just) than Cork and Westwood, I have my doubts.

If, as is often claimed, Cork’s legs have gone, i dread to think where Stephens legs are right now!!

Whether he does or doesn’t play, he deserves a fair crack of the whip though.

I agree, I think he needs a fair crack. At Brighton he was a good tackler and distributed the ball well.

We need our best technical players on the pitch and at the moment I think he can be considered one of our better technical players

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:46 pm

ClaretAL wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:35 pm
Wow, he was a bit shaky at the beginning but the last few matches he has been back to himself and we would definitely be stronger with him between the posts.

Back to himself, lol did you not see the gift he give Newcastle

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:58 pm

Yep, I also watched what he did against West ham and Chelsea

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:00 pm

ClaretAL wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:58 pm
Yep, I also watched what he did against West ham and Chelsea

Sorry but he's made mistakes in a lot more game than he hasn't by a long way but it's not you or me that picks the team.

Saying all that I hope he has his best Burnley game ever and proves me wrong and we take all 3 much needed points

BFC88 · Post by **BFC88** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:06 pm

We need a lot better than Cork, Westwood, Brownhill or Stephens in CM to survive this season. We must improve this area in January or risk facing the inevitable relegation. Also Pope is our best GK by far. Anybody suggesting he is dropped is crazy!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:08 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:46 pm
Back to himself, lol did you not see the gift he give Newcastle

That was just really bad luck, not a mistake as such.

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:11 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:08 pm
That was just really bad luck, not a mistake as such.

Half and half, if he punched it instead etc

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:12 pm

BFC88 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:06 pm
We need a lot better than Cork, Westwood, Brownhill or Stephens in CM to survive this season. We must improve this area in January or risk facing the inevitable relegation. Also Pope is our best GK by far. Anybody suggesting he is dropped is crazy!

No one is suggesting he's dropped

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:17 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:11 pm
Half and half, if he punched it instead etc

The chance of that head being exactly where the ball was landing (between NP's hands, admittedly) is very remote.
I still like him coming for crosses the way he does. The problem with punching is that we defend with so many players very deep that it's almost inevitable that the ball goes to the attacking team.