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What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:55 am

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by pauliopaulio » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:14 am

We have had Newcastle’s pants down. However unless we get someone good in we’ve had our own pants down too.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by claretcrav » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:50 am

Everyone thinks we have helped a relegation rival by selling him, but they have helped us by giving 25m, as long as we spend wisely they could have egg on their faces. Not that I want to see Carroll here, I think he will offer more than what Wood has offered all season!
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:51 am

I don’t get the way our fans are slating Chris Wood’s ability. He was excellent for us and our best striker by some distance. He scored some absolute crackers.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:54 am

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:51 am
I don’t get the way our fans are slating Chris Wood’s ability. He was excellent for us and our best striker by some distance. He scored some absolute crackers.
He wasn’t excellent for us.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:56 am

claretcrav wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:50 am
Everyone thinks we have helped a relegation rival by selling him, but they have helped us by giving 25m, as long as we spend wisely they could have egg on their faces. Not that I want to see Carroll here, I think he will offer more than what Wood has offered all season!
Couldn’t agree more. IF we spend it wisely they could’ve just kept up up with that cash. Even if we signed Carroll (a long way off my first choice), I think he might be more effective for us than Wood will for them.

It’s not taken them long to suss Wood out at all. Even the Board didn’t believe in him enough to give him >2 year contract!!

A couple of months and Howe will be sacked and that’ll be the end of Chris Wood’s career at the top level.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:57 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:54 am
He wasn’t excellent for us.
Not this season I agree but overall I’d say he has. He was our main goal threat. Double figures every season says to me he was an excellent signing.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:04 am

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:57 am
Not this season I agree but overall I’d say he has. He was our main goal threat. Double figures every season says to me he was an excellent signing.
He definitely was an excellent signing. But as you say, very poor this season. There should be no room for sentiment here and in some respects I think Dyche has too much loyalty for players when underperforming.

We’d have played Wood all season, every game, and he’d have sent us down in the form he’s in. Luckily, this one was taken out of our hands.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:07 am

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:51 am
I don’t get the way our fans are slating Chris Wood’s ability. He was excellent for us and our best striker by some distance. He scored some absolute crackers.
In the olden days

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:08 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:04 am
He definitely was an excellent signing. But as you say, very poor this season. There should be no room for sentiment here and in some respects I think Dyche has too much loyalty for players when underperforming.

We’d have played Wood all season, every game, and he’d have sent us down in the form he’s in. Luckily, this one was taken out of our hands.
Completely agree and I was all for dropping him for Jay Rod. I certainly didn’t want him sold though. I always felt once he scored he’d start a run. Maybe selling him will be a blessing. Time will tell.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:08 am

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:51 am
I don’t get the way our fans are slating Chris Wood’s ability. He was excellent for us and our best striker by some distance. He scored some absolute crackers.
Same ones who slate just about everything with the club mate,
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:17 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:54 am
He wasn’t excellent for us.
Maybe you should get a seat facing the pitch.....
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:18 am

I'd like us to use the 25 million and bring in x3 15 million pound players paying around 8 million upfront for each and the rest over several season's, if we use this money right the Chris Wood deal could turn out to be a fantastic sale
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by bobinho » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:19 am

The way some have been crying on here, you’d think we just handed over alan shearer. Sounds like the geordies signed the same Chris wood that left us.

When he was in form, he was an asset, when he wasn’t, he brought so little to the game it was like playing with ten men, but SD threw him in no matter what even when it was obvious he was running on empty.

I didn’t want him to leave, but he has and as long as we use the funds to bring in a striker, I’m at ease with it…. It’s not as if we are gonna miss his goals is it? At 30 going on 31, his best years are well behind him imho.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:26 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:17 am
Maybe you should get a seat facing the pitch.....
Ever thought of taking up comedy?

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:28 am

bobinho wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:19 am
At 30 going on 31, his best years are well behind him imho.
Absolutely this.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:32 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:26 am
Ever thought of taking up comedy?
Nope.... I don't really understand it. A bit like.....
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by beddie » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:36 am

At least his sale to Newcastle doesn’t come under the “sale of goods act” otherwise they’d be going down the route of ‘not fit for purpose’ and require a full refund. :lol:
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by claretandbluesky » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:49 am

When and if Wood hits form they will be piping a different tune. Certainly have the players to provide him with ammunition but when he gets that first goal will be crucial. Imagine he might do better away from home.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by claretandy » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:50 am

Thank god for the release clause, because Dyche would never have sold him.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:53 am

My rejoicing at this deal is only countered by the rumors we may buy a 31 year old Benteke for 10m.

😱😱😱😱
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:12 am

I’m not comfortable with all the crowing about Wood being crap.

I wasn’t bothered that we’d sold him because he’s run his race for us, but one game is a little soon to be laughing about the fact Newcastle fans think he’s crap.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:17 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:12 am
I’m not comfortable with all the crowing about Wood being crap.

I wasn’t bothered that we’d sold him because he’s run his race for us, but one game is a little soon to be laughing about the fact Newcastle fans think he’s crap.
Agree with that.
Reckon he'll score a few for them this season.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by jedi_master » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:23 am

Wood was superb for us for 4 years, and I will give him a clap for his efforts when he plays against us for that tenure and the ridiculous fee we got for him.

Ridiculous fee because he has been an absolute joke this season. If he had done his job correctly we’d be about 15th with the chances he’s missed. He has nose dived as a player this season both in terms of finishing and his mobility. Age, for me, has begun to rear its head with him. To suggest he’s been anything but a superb signing for us though is totally wrong.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:25 am

We got good value out of Wood-paid £15m, he then helped us stay in the PL for 5 seasons averaged 10 plus PL goals a year, then we sell him for £25m.

Sad how some fans now need to gloat. He is now history-lets move on
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Shaggy » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:27 am

I was never really won over by Wood. He did score for us quite well but offered very little most of the time.

Can’t say I hold any animosity towards him we paid decent money for him he done a job and left for a lot more money at probably the right time.

I do hope he is useless for Newcastle not through malice but because it will help us and hopefully relegate Newcastle with their overrated media darling manager.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by bfcjg » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:27 am

Good in spells, those spells got shorter , his presence dictated our style of play which is ok when he scores absolute dire when the goals dry up. If and it is a massive if we stay up it will have been the deal of the decade.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:31 am

Lads... you're over complicating this. Go and look at a list of strikers to score double figures in the last 4 consecutive premier league seasons.

The list is very short...... and doesn't include too many £25m players.

Goals are the hardest commodity to buy.... we had one of the best in the league. It's really that simple.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Bosscat » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:32 am

Wood did a job for us ... scored some fantastic goals ...

As he is now at a rival, I hope he is as poor as some on here have always thought he was (look back through player ratings)

Go on Agent Wood 👍
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:37 am

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:25 am
We got good value out of Wood-paid £15m, he then helped us stay in the PL for 5 seasons averaged 10 plus PL goals a year, then we sell him for £25m.

Sad how some fans now need to gloat. He is now history-lets move on
If a player (Wood) in another relegation threatened team (Newcastle) fails to score and his fan's moan about it I'll gloat all day
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by claret2018 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:39 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:31 am
Lads... you're over complicating this. Go and look at a list of strikers to score double figures in the last 4 consecutive premier league seasons.

The list is very short...... and doesn't include too many £25m players.

Goals are the hardest commodity to buy.... we had one of the best in the league. It's really that simple.
I don’t think anyone is disagreeing that his goals over the previous 4 seasons have been excellent for us.

However he has done nothing for 9 or so months, and he kept starting games. They say you don’t become a bad footballer overnight but sometimes that literally happens. I think Wood’s days of 10 goals a season are well and truly behind him. My prediction is he will score 1 or 2 for Newcastle in the coming weeks, and then do nothing for the rest of the season and the fans will turn on him. He’ll be quietly offloaded in the summer to a lower league side.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:45 am

Wish I could be Nostradamus after 1 game of football.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by claret2018 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:55 am

He’s been complete tosh for the best part of a year

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:55 am

Someone who can manipulate the ball, I’d imagine, and I don’t think they’d be wrong to expect that. The player they’ve signed cannot do that.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:00 am

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:55 am
He’s been complete tosh for the best part of a year
Not at Newcastle he hasn’t, we can all think what we want but a valid grounded reason exists why Newcastle have took him to weaken us & strengthen them & until we find something better than him there’s only 1 club that’s had it’s pants pulled down.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:04 am

Chris Woods may have had a terrible season and offer virtually nothing but he has scored two more goals than the other 3 strikers put together. Prior to that he has been double digit every season.

In fact 3 goals is what Vydra scored last season as did Barnes. Jay has got 0 this year and 1 last year.

All are in their 30s apart from Vyrdra who will hit 30 in May.

This is the company a double digit CF keeps in the Premiership

Callum Wilson 12
Centre-Forward

Danny Ings 12
Centre-Forward

Chris Wood 12
Centre-Forward

Kelechi Iheanacho 12
Centre-Forward

Marcus Rashford 11
Left Winger

Sadio Mané 11
Left Winger

Matheus Pereira 11
Attacking Midfield

Wilfried Zaha 11
Left Winger

Gareth Bale 11
Right Winger

Raheem Sterling 10
Left Winger

Michail Antonio 10
Centre-Forward

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
Centre-Forward 10

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:18 am

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:57 am
Not this season I agree but overall I’d say he has. He was our main goal threat. Double figures every season says to me he was an excellent signing.
It depends in what context your terming him an excellent striker, yes he's been consistent over the last 4 season's, but by no means does that make him an excellent striker, the other aspect in this is that dyche appeared to be happy with him as his leading striker and any blame for our perilous position lies at dyche's door, excellent striker in my opinion is a leading no1 striker who consistently scores 20 or upwards a season, in no way was wood that, so I'm saying dyche is deluded if he was still thinking that, what we actually needed is someone good enough to be selected in front of him.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by quoonbeatz » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:21 am

Giving him grief after one game in a poor team shows what bellends they are.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:28 am

Strikers need two things. Service and Confidence

And the ball... Strikers need three things...

Don't you just love Monty Python's Spanish Inquisition?! :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8n4MfhjUc

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by clarethomer » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:32 am

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:04 am
Chris Woods may have had a terrible season and offer virtually nothing but he has scored two more goals than the other 3 strikers put together.
He has had a terrible season, as have all of the team.

He isn't worth £25m but that was the price to release him. No one in their right mind would pay what Newcastle did.

Won't take away the good times he gave us and he has been a good servant to the club and nothing but an exemplary player. He has a good record in terms of previous contributions - No one can change that. However there is always a point in where a player will get less effective.

Given his current form and this seasons performance, I am reading the same comments from Newcastle fans that Burnley fans have been making this season.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:36 am

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:18 am
It depends in what context your terming him an excellent striker, yes he's been consistent over the last 4 season's, but by no means does that make him an excellent striker, the other aspect in this is that dyche appeared to be happy with him as his leading striker and any blame for our perilous position lies at dyche's door, excellent striker in my opinion is a leading no1 striker who consistently scores 20 or upwards a season, in no way was wood that, so I'm saying dyche is deluded if he was still thinking that, what we actually needed is someone good enough to be selected in front of him.
Your excellent list is basically Sergio Aguero and Mo Salah….. list ends. Good list. Burnley may not be the club for you to see excellent strikers at.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:43 am

clarethomer wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:32 am
He has had a terrible season, as have all of the team.

He isn't worth £25m but that was the price to release him. No one in their right mind would pay what Newcastle did.

Won't take away the good times he gave us and he has been a good servant to the club and nothing but an exemplary player. He has a good record in terms of previous contributions - No one can change that. However there is always a point in where a player will get less effective.

Given his current form and this seasons performance, I am reading the same comments from Newcastle fans that Burnley fans have been making this season.
Indeed but as I show above he has been better than the other 3 strikers and look at the kind of players that score 12 goals in a season.

Anyone sensible would look at his recent record and withhold judgement on Newcastle's investment to the end of the season.

On the balance of the facts you wouldn't put it past him scoring 6 or 7 goals in the second half of the season. Newcastle probably have the same problem as we will - securing good players is not easy because clubs don't want to lose them mid season. The difference is £25 million is nothing to Newcastle's owners.
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:53 am

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:43 am
Indeed but as I show above he has been better than the other 3 strikers and look at the kind of players that score 12 goals in a season.

Anyone sensible would look at his recent record and withhold judgement on Newcastle's investment to the end of the season.

On the balance of the facts you wouldn't put it past him scoring 6 or 7 goals in the second half of the season. Newcastle probably have the same problem as we will - securing good players is not easy because clubs don't want to lose them mid season. The difference is £25 million is nothing to Newcastle's owners.
Sensible people don’t sound daft but it’s quite easy to say things now & when/if after he scores the goals to keep Newcastle up is then to pretend things haven’t been said & everybody agreed at the time that CW would be an excellent signing for Newcastle. There’s anger & hurt in the immediate aftermath that can cloud judgement nobody wants to admit Newcastle have got a good deal it’s only time that could or will make people realise different.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:57 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:53 am
Sensible people don’t sound daft but it’s quite easy to say things now & when/if after he scores the goals to keep Newcastle up is then to pretend things haven’t been said & everybody agreed at the time that CW would be an excellent signing for Newcastle. There’s anger & hurt in the immediate aftermath that can cloud judgement nobody wants to admit Newcastle have got a good deal it’s only time that could or will make people realise different.
At the moment they haven’t got a good deal but all he needs to do is score one goal to win a game that keeps them up and it will be!

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by clarethomer » Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:57 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:57 am
At the moment they haven’t got a good deal but all he needs to do is score one goal to win a game that keeps them up and it will be!
But they would never know if the outcome would still have been the same without him.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:13 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:04 am
Chris Woods may have had a terrible season and offer virtually nothing but he has scored two more goals than the other 3 strikers put together. Prior to that he has been double digit every season.

In fact 3 goals is what Vydra scored last season as did Barnes. Jay has got 0 this year and 1 last year.

All are in their 30s apart from Vyrdra who will hit 30 in May.

This is the company a double digit CF keeps in the Premiership

Callum Wilson 12
Centre-Forward

Danny Ings 12
Centre-Forward

Chris Wood 12
Centre-Forward

Kelechi Iheanacho 12
Centre-Forward

Marcus Rashford 11
Left Winger

Sadio Mané 11
Left Winger

Matheus Pereira 11
Attacking Midfield

Wilfried Zaha 11
Left Winger

Gareth Bale 11
Right Winger

Raheem Sterling 10
Left Winger

Michail Antonio 10
Centre-Forward

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
Centre-Forward 10
IT IS CHRIS ******* WOOD!
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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:17 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:28 am
Absolutely this.
Apart from he’s only just home 30 in December :lol:

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:18 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:18 am
It depends in what context your terming him an excellent striker, yes he's been consistent over the last 4 season's, but by no means does that make him an excellent striker, the other aspect in this is that dyche appeared to be happy with him as his leading striker and any blame for our perilous position lies at dyche's door, excellent striker in my opinion is a leading no1 striker who consistently scores 20 or upwards a season, in no way was wood that, so I'm saying dyche is deluded if he was still thinking that, what we actually needed is someone good enough to be selected in front of him.
If you read my post it says excellent signing. I also thought Robbie Blake was an excellent signing. Top clubs would think he was rubbish. It’s about the job he’s done for us which imo was an excellent job.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by Jamesy » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:22 pm

They were expecting the next Wor Jackie Milburn or Super Mac, Malcolm MacDonald.
Wood was ok for us. But for an outlay of 25 million they weren’t going to get anything better in this over inflated transfer market.

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Re: What were they expecting for 25 million

Post by bodge » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:24 pm

Think Wood has suffered this season for not having a full pre season and travelling across the globe with NZ, Dyche always alludes to the importance of a good summer's work prior to the season.

Some posters are almost suggesting that Wood was a glorified goal hanger, his all round game did leave something to be desired but you don't get double figures 4 seasons running in a side not creating lots of chances without having the positional ability to do the hard job of scoring in the Premier League that regularly.

Replacing those goals will be really tough, particularly given our position propping up the league. Our recruitment team have a unenviable job of attracting a top striker to join us, if they succeed then clearly the Wood sale will be a good one but the suggestion that we have sold Newcastle a pup after one game is premature at best.
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