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Staying up

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:46 pm

Which game do we secure our safety this season?

Everyone around us is inconsistent. If we secure those 2/3 signings before the deadline I can see a Dyche style run of games where we stay up comfortably. It’s not over yet.
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Re: Staying up

Post by Culmclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:01 pm

I suspect we have already had our good run for the season and I just wonder who in their right mind, who was any good, would sign for us now

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Re: Staying up

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:09 pm

Massive IF, as it’s unlikely, but a win tomorrow and it would be 2 points behind 17th with 4 games in hand

Glass half full tonight 😉
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Re: Staying up

Post by jurek » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm

And a loss tomorrow against Arsenal would still leave us with
2 games in hand against Watford, 3 against Newcastle and 4 against Norwich.

Given who we've got to play in the next 4 or 5 games that makes the game
against Watford an absolute 100% must win.

It's daunting but not impossible.
Still a dog fight even if we manage to beat them.

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Re: Staying up

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:22 pm

It might go to the wire, last day showdown with the Geordies anyone?
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Re: Staying up

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:27 pm

None we are down because the bulk of the players don’t give a hoot.

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Re: Staying up

Post by JohnMac » Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:45 pm

At the moment we are like the fat kid at the back of a Cross Country run.
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Re: Staying up

Post by Winstonswhite » Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:47 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:27 pm
None we are down because the bulk of the players don’t give a hoot.
No you’re right. None of the players care do they??

Jesus wept.
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Re: Staying up

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:50 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:45 pm
At the moment we are like the fat kid at the back of a Cross Country run.
That’s beings disrespectful to the fat kid. These are athletes being paid millions to perform. They are refusing to do that minimum.

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Re: Staying up

Post by JohnMac » Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:56 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:50 pm
That’s beings disrespectful to the fat kid. These are athletes being paid millions to perform. They are refusing to do that minimum.
Someone is always last, even at elite level though. I fear no amount of sweat, blood or tears will suffice this season, it's the basics we are lacking. Put ball in the net, stop ball going in the net.

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Re: Staying up

Post by thelaughingclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:02 pm

I feel we need a win tomorrow to have any hope of convincing anyone to sign for us next week. A loss tomorrow and a performance like against Leeds could be bigger then just 3 points gone. We need to be on it, and I don’t think we will. The players don’t have it in them anymore and nor does Dyche. I really hope they prove me wrong.
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Re: Staying up

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:06 pm

Normally, a team with one win, bottom of the league, on Jan 22nd would be absolutely down and out

But this isn't normal

COVID means we've missed a huge chunk of games, and the vast majority of the squad have been here before

Its still a very tall order, but its not hopeless

If we can get players in as well, then who knows?

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Re: Staying up

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:11 pm

i think we have generally agreed for several seasons that points on the board are better than games in hand

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Re: Staying up

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:11 pm

Culmclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:01 pm
I suspect we have already had our good run for the season and I just wonder who in their right mind, who was any good, would sign for us now
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Re: Staying up

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:34 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:47 pm
No you’re right. None of the players care do they??

Jesus wept.
There’s only 1 thing all players care about.

£££££££££

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Re: Staying up

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:44 pm

If we don't get a striker and a midfielder in before the end of January, we'll be relegated.

Simple as.

Get them signed up, and we've a fighting chance.

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Re: Staying up

Post by alf_resco » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:48 pm

A poster on here said about 2 or 3 weeks ago he had "no doubt" we'd stay up. When I questioned that, he said again, "No doubt."
I can't believe anyone of sound mind and body can say there's "no doubt" we'll stay up.
Look at the record since this date last year.
Makes Cotterill's bad run look half-decent.
Laws was fired for far less.
Eddie & Jase resigned/left because they weren't perceived as good enough/ wanted away/ glad to see the back of them.

But Saint Sean of Kettering appears bullet proof.

I said when ALK took over we were well and truly shafted.
Nothing since has made me change my mind.
Anyone expecting 2 or 3 major signings in the next 10 days needs to have a stiff drink and go to bed, because it's not going to happen.
PS - For clarification, I wouldn't consider Andy Carroll a major signing. 😆😆😆

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Re: Staying up

Post by Leisure » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:02 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:50 pm
That’s beings disrespectful to the fat kid. These are athletes being paid millions to perform. They are refusing to do that minimum.
Really! What do you actually mean by 'refusing'? You think that they're looking forward to taking a massive drop in their salaries if we get relegated?

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Re: Staying up

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:03 pm

alf_resco wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:48 pm
A poster on here said about 2 or 3 weeks ago he had "no doubt" we'd stay up. When I questioned that, he said again, "No doubt."
I can't believe anyone of sound mind and body can say there's "no doubt" we'll stay up.
Look at the record since this date last year.
Makes Cotterill's bad run look half-decent.
Laws was fired for far less.
Eddie & Jase resigned/left because they weren't perceived as good enough/ wanted away/ glad to see the back of them.

But Saint Sean of Kettering appears bullet proof.

I said when ALK took over we were well and truly shafted.
Nothing since has made me change my mind.
Anyone expecting 2 or 3 major signings in the next 10 days needs to have a stiff drink and go to bed, because it's not going to happen.
PS - For clarification, I wouldn't consider Andy Carroll a major signing. 😆😆😆
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Re: Staying up

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:10 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:02 pm
Really! What do you actually mean by 'refusing'? You think that they're looking forward to taking a massive drop in their salaries if we get relegated?
Anyone half decent will be gone anyway. Cornet, McNeil and Taylor are not going to be playing football in the champ next season.

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Re: Staying up

Post by MACCA » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:14 pm

More chance of Sean Dyche playing 3511 and/or being able to make a tactical switch.

Start planning now for a season in the championship, and save the not so bright people the heartache and expectation.

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Re: Staying up

Post by Leisure » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:30 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:10 pm
Anyone half decent will be gone anyway. Cornet, McNeil and Taylor are not going to be playing football in the champ next season.
And how do you know this? So just those 3?

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Re: Staying up

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:33 pm

Talk of staying up has a hollow ring about it at the moment.
Only If and when Dyche and the players start winning can we start talking about surviving

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Re: Staying up

Post by alf_resco » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:38 pm

FAO Tall Paul:

Applause. 👏👏

💤

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Re: Staying up

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:46 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:33 pm
Talk of staying up has a hollow ring about it at the moment.
Only If and when Dyche and the players start winning can we start talking about surviving
Elizabeth, we have all known that this PL journey would come to an end sooner or later.
Perhaps this season, perhaps next.
We've had a wonderful run in "the best league in the world", if it's over we have to accept it and enjoy Championship football...

until we get promoted again ;)

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Re: Staying up

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:54 pm

I would have no problem with Championship football Bill, I find the PL unhealthy.
If it is to be this season I hope we go down fighting not the stale way we have been playing in the last few games.
That would not be a good way to go down
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Re: Staying up

Post by Andreshotboots » Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:45 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:06 pm
Normally, a team with one win, bottom of the league, on Jan 22nd would be absolutely down and out

But this isn't normal

COVID means we've missed a huge chunk of games, and the vast majority of the squad have been here before

Its still a very tall order, but its not hopeless

If we can get players in as well, then who knows?
Agreed, Norwich were dead and buried a short time ago. Sneak a couple of wins and the whole scenario changes .

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Re: Staying up

Post by jurek » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:18 am

With our current squad we've got very little chance of staying up
unless Dyche can come up with something verging on miraculous
both in terms of formation and tactics alongside getting the majority of players
to regularly put in best performances over the rest of the season.
We lack some of the key basics required - pace and technique in particular - and there's
little or nothing Dyche or the players can do about that.

Cornet has those skills/abilities but he's about the only one.
McNeil suggested he also had some of those but just hasn't shown enough this season.

A couple of quality signings might give us a much better chance but
we'd need them to 'do a Cornet' in terms of a relatively immediate impact.
And it would be close to another miracle if we could actually persuade
and get these players to come up to sunny Burnley.

Yes we've still got 21 games to play, 12 of which are at home
but we would probably need to win at least half of those home games.
And our goal difference is better than those around us and who knows it may
come down to that but not unless we start getting those wins and 3 points.

We've performed a few miracles over the last 6 or so seasons
but it's getting more and more difficult especially with an ageing squad.

But In God we must trust.
Either that or Andy Carroll.

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Re: Staying up

Post by Jimmymaccer » Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:07 am

JohnMac wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:45 pm
At the moment we are like the fat kid at the back of a Cross Country run.
With his fat mum getting ready to sing eh?
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Re: Staying up

Post by Claretmisterg » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:08 pm

Early in the season we were starting games brightly and taking an early lead only to let it slip. In the few games we have played recently we have looked like relegation material in that our heart has gone. As supporters we need to get behind the team and try to encourage them to recover their lost confidence. The table is skewed at the moment because of the postponements. It only takes a small spark and we could go on a good run. A reasonable return of 1.5 or more points per game from our games in hand will put us in a much better position.

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Re: Staying up

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:16 pm

After today's performance we look more likely we can dig out of this. We need to put these performan es in against those around and just above us now

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Re: Staying up

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:17 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:16 pm
After today's performance we look more likely we can dig out of this. We need to put these performan es in against those around and just above us now
Its a start, and we have to build on it by bringing in a couple of players to give us options

But its a great start

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Re: Staying up

Post by claretandbluesky » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:21 pm

Every game is a cup game now and we need to treat them like that. We need some wins.

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Re: Staying up

Post by Top Claret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:21 pm

Home is where the heart is and we have to start winning

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Re: Staying up

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:23 pm

Hats off to both our centre backs today. A million miles away from Leeds and more like what we've seen earlier this season.

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Re: Staying up

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:23 pm

claretandbluesky wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:21 pm
Every game is a cup game now and we need to treat them like that. We need some wins.
Given our cup record under Dyche, I'd rather we treat them as league games.

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