Russia Invades

[elwaclaret]

OSINTtech - update of location to above tweet. East of Kyiv

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... 55722?s=21

[elwaclaret]

BBC: PM interview on Newsnight, tonight; giving his views on Ukraine

https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/150 ... 33842?s=21

[JarrowClaret]

I've just read an article about UK forces as recent as last year training and aiding the Belarus army, unbelievable.

I don’t think that is correct I know a number were sent to the Poland Belarusian border but they were on the Polish side.

[elwaclaret]

REUTERS: President Biden calls for Russian removal from G20.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1507 ... 03432?s=21

[Vegas Claret]

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[bfcjg]

I don’t think that is correct I know a number were sent to the Poland Belarusian border but they were on the Polish side.

This is the article
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... ive-years/

[box_of_frogs]

use of white phosphorous
https://twitter.com/danriversitv/status ... t-bg9T4p5g

The UK has both red and white phosphorus in its everyday arsenal. The issue here is not the substance, but it’s probable intended use. We use it to ‘smoke screen’ utilising its burning properties to produce a dense smoke cloud. Others use it for other means.

[JarrowClaret]

This is the article
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... ive-years/

That article is from August 2020, what is the Daily maverick I have never heard of it?

Anyway I was surprised to read that, apologies, but if I had read it when it was published I wouldn’t have been as shocked Belarus only became know. No ad an issue to me when there were issues on there border with Poland.

[NewClaret]

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Let’s hope it’s filling up with them!!

[bfcjg]

That article is from August 2020, what is the Daily maverick I have never heard of it?

Anyway I was surprised to read that, apologies, but if I had read it when it was published I wouldn’t have been as shocked Belarus only became know. No ad an issue to me when there were issues on there border with Poland.

Not sure, I was researching aid to the countries that support Russia and that came up, I assume it is like Yahoo news and a collection of news from the likes of Reuters under one banner. I get why they would try to influence Belarus though to turn to the West not to Rissia. As they said in Game of Thrones you make peace with your enemies or something like that.

[JarrowClaret]

The UK has both red and white phosphorus in its everyday arsenal. The issue here is not the substance, but it’s probable intended use. We use it to ‘smoke screen’ utilising its burning properties to produce a dense smoke cloud. Others use it for other means.

Not sure many would use them in built up areas like the Russians did but hey. I never paid much attention but when we put up an illum round what is in that? That can’t be healthy either

[box_of_frogs]

Not sure many would use them in built up areas like the Russians did but hey. I never paid much attention but when we put up an illum round what is in that? That can’t be healthy either

Illum is usually magnesium based (or similar) - ever remember burning it at school chemistry? Bright white light! IR Illum is something else. ‘Phos’ is purely reserved for ‘smoke screening’ in the UK military.

[Mala591]

Does anyone know why NATO countries refuse to sell tanks and aircraft to Ukraine?

[Vegas Claret]

U.S. President Joe Biden said on Thursday that if Russia were to use chemical weapons in its invasion of Ukraine, the United States would respond.

"We would respond, we would respond if he uses it. The nature of the response would depend on the nature of the use," Biden said at a news conference in Brussels.

[elwaclaret]

Phillips OBrian - looks at the current picture in Ukraine

https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/sta ... 41287?s=21

[elwaclaret]

REUTERS: Russia is seeing panic buying of anti-depression, stress relief drugs fearing supply due to sanctions.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1507 ... 44647?s=21

[elwaclaret]

…and Phillips Adams further thoughts on todays positions.

https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/sta ... 16928?s=21

[RingoMcCartney]

Trump went to the UN in 2018 and called out countries for relying on Russian oil. The German delegation was caught on camera laughing at him for saying "Germany will become totally dependent on Russian Energy"


https://www.reddit.com/r/indianews/comm ... tries_for/


They're not laughing now ......

[Vegas Claret]

the mind boggles ! Bonkers
https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/statu ... 4j73j5zx4A

[Vegas Claret]

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[Taffy on the wing]

Al Murray tweet - and great comment. Ukrainian band promise to play live in Kyiv during the Birmingham benefit gig. So they can show the world they are still part of it and show the Russians they will never win.

https://twitter.com/rinanpakkala/status ... 25196?s=21

Awesome!........& unbreakable.

[Taffy on the wing]

All the usual suspects.

Not too smart!.......can easily be used by Russia for propaganda purposes.

[Lancasterclaret]

https://twitter.com/JominiW/status/1507215016415698944

Good summary of where we are

[Lancasterclaret]

https://twitter.com/Danspiun/status/1507181526382952459

Aftermath of a Ukrainian attack near Chernig'iv

[bfcjg]

https://twitter.com/Danspiun/status/1507181526382952459

Aftermath of a Ukrainian attack near Chernig'iv

My goodness,these guys are lethal.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status ... R-R8A&s=19

Ukrainian Police general has offered to surrender to the Russian forces at Mariupol if he's allowed to lead the trapped children out first.

[bfcjg]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/oligarchs-not ... 47391.html
I don't put much credence to this, money talks, his hangers on will be panicking.

[Hipper]

This is the article
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... ive-years/

In that article I think they are arresting the wrong demonstrator!

[Hipper]

OSINTtech - Captured Russian Tanks ‘O’ marked - probably North of Kyiv

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... 97067?s=21

'O' seems an odd choice of ident. It's more difficult to paint then 'Z', 'V' or many other letters.

[Hipper]

REUTERS: President Biden calls for Russian removal from G20.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1507 ... 03432?s=21

Funny comment:

'Removing Russia makes it G19 then.'

'Remove China too.'

'China will remove others and name it G1.'

[Hipper]

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Where has this aircraft come from?

[Lowbankclaret]

Yesterday and today there have been US Chinooks flying to the same area of the remote airfield close to the border of Ukraine. You would suspect it’s the delivery of the US arms Biden promised.

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[Lancasterclaret]

Its beginning to sound like Russia is going for a long war, and will be relying on the usual suspects in the West to undermine Western support for Ukraine

I wish I could be 100% confident that they won't succeed

[Lowbankclaret]

Its beginning to sound like Russia is going for a long war, and will be relying on the usual suspects in the West to undermine Western support for Ukraine

I wish I could be 100% confident that they won't succeed

The longer it goes on the more the west can wean itself of Russias gas and oil. The deal yesterday helps. Hopefully we can turn on more North Sea oil and gas. I have no idea how long that takes by the way.

I think at the moment many Russians who own villas and property across Europe probably think the ban on them going will be a temporary thing, but once they realise it’s not, there could be more unrest. Well I hope there will be.

Today the equipment loses are at 1800, a long war at that rate of attrition will see his equipment reduced by 50% in 12 weeks. That has to be unsustainable and as I said before the Russians would have to pull back and regroup.

[TsarBomba]

https://twitter.com/jmvasquez1974?s=21

Not sure if this link has been posted, apologies if it already has.

American soldier posting from the front lines around Kyiv.

Worth a follow.

[Lancasterclaret]

https://twitter.com/jmvasquez1974?s=21

Not sure if this link has been posted, apologies if it already has.

American soldier posting from the front lines around Kyiv.

Worth a follow.

Love the fact (if its the same guy) that he got loads of s**t on twitter for calling the IFV he destroyed a tank

Twitter tank pedantry is something I can right behind!

[Lowbankclaret]

I wanted to post a Twitter link , but no idea how to.

Estimates loses.

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[Lowbankclaret]

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... ZQvtYfeXvw

Found it eventually.
This is a report of large Russian troop loses and retreating troops.

[Lowbankclaret]

Its beginning to sound like Russia is going for a long war, and will be relying on the usual suspects in the West to undermine Western support for Ukraine

I wish I could be 100% confident that they won't succeed

So the numbers backed by photo evidence is 1800.
Ukraine claims over 4000.
If the number is in between it would still be around 3000 pieces of kit.
It’s a shame we don’t know the accrual amounts of kit he sent in, but as I have said that is serious degradation of equipment and loses like that cannot be sustainable.

[elwaclaret]

'O' seems an odd choice of ident. It's more difficult to paint then 'Z', 'V' or many other letters.

Quite agree, they also look stencilled rather than hand painted - I eventually decided they were the original invasion grouping and the ‘rallying symbol’ for communists of ‘Odessa’ - the city where the October Revolution (the failed one) started in 1918 - aka the “Bolshevik -Odessa Revolution” - but it’s my musing rather than anything I’ve found.

[elwaclaret]

Funny comment:

'Removing Russia makes it G19 then.'

'Remove China too.'

'China will remove others and name it G1.'

The G20 agreement sets out special prices for members and probably most important Guarentees IMMUNITY from prosecution for the members. Not sure how the voting works but I think Biden’s idea is to force China into a corner where they potentially also risk their membership if they do anything silly. But again I’m no expert on G20 so others will probably know more.

[elwaclaret]

NEXTA: Time (Life) Magazine that once awarded Putin ‘Man of the Year’ have a rather different take on the dictator in their new issue.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 27972?s=21

[elwaclaret]

NEW YORK TIMES: Russia secure partial land corridor from Crimea to Russia, one of the original strategic aims of the invasion say Ukrainian officials

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1507 ... 91400?s=21

[elwaclaret]

NEXTA: Clean up of unexploded Russian missiles begins in Chernihiv.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 55689?s=21

[AlargeClaret]

Its beginning to sound like Russia is going for a long war, and will be relying on the usual suspects in the West to undermine Western support for Ukraine
I wish I could be 100% confident that they won't succeed

It does indeed look like RUS are ( incredibly imo ) looking at a “ long war” . Though which countries in the west would be “ usual suspects “ ex eastern block types ?possibly Hungary , Czecs, Romania ? Though as EU aren’t they in NATO also ?

[elwaclaret]

REUTERS - China state owned Sinopec has suspended talks with Russia over major investment in Russian energy.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1507 ... 29669?s=21

[elwaclaret]

It does indeed look like RUS are ( incredibly imo ) looking at a “ long war” . Though which countries in the west would be “ usual suspects “ ex eastern block types ?possibly Hungary , Czecs, Romania ? Though as EU aren’t they in NATO also ?

The problem is POLAND always top that list of prizes. I have not checked which fall into NATO but others will know (I’ll revise it later) but others probably already have such info to hand (I’m on my way out).

[Lancasterclaret]

It does indeed look like RUS are ( incredibly imo ) looking at a “ long war” . Though which countries in the west would be “ usual suspects “ ex eastern block types ?possibly Hungary , Czecs, Romania ? Though as EU aren’t they in NATO also ?

Not necessarily countries, more the people in those countries who were happy to take Putins money to spout stuff that would damage the Western alliance

And the horrendous cost of living crisis is going to make it hard for Western countries to prioritise, especially if it turns into a slog fest

But I am relatively comfortable that the EU/UK/NATO/AUS/JAPAN etc will remain united v Russia

Still think the key could be China, but it doesn't have to do a right lot now and Russia is falling over itself to sell them discounted oil and gas

[Spijed]

Not necessarily countries, more the people in those countries who were happy to take Putins money to spout stuff that would damage the Western alliance

And the horrendous cost of living crisis is going to make it hard for Western countries to prioritise, especially if it turns into a slog fest

But I am relatively comfortable that the EU/UK/NATO/AUS/JAPAN etc will remain united v Russia

Still think the key could be China, but it doesn't have to do a right lot now and Russia is falling over itself to sell them discounted oil and gas

Israel's stance seems a bit perplexing considering they know the effects of genocide.

[Lancasterclaret]

Israel's stance seems a bit perplexing considering they know the effects of genocide.

Not really, they do tend to do their own thing rather a lot

Whether you like them or not, they absolutely do everything on the basis "Is it good for Israel?"