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Bielsa

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:14 pm

Reports that he’s off at Leeds. Jesse Marsch favourite to replace him.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by CHEWBACCA » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:17 pm

FFS,keep him in.
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Re: Bielsa

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:19 pm

Please no

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Re: Bielsa

Post by jedi_master » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:30 pm

The replacement doesn’t scream ‘guaranteed success’ to me. Massive gamble!

Transfer window has been and gone anyway, they’re still stuck with the laughably inept Koch, Llorente, Ayling etc in defence.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Sproggy » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:34 pm

I presume he's up for "coach of the year" again?

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:34 pm

No transfer window to work with, s**t or bust to stay up. I’d rather be in our shoes right now.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:15 pm

The premier league is corrupt......simple!

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Re: Bielsa

Post by bfcjg » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:18 pm

Has he kicked his own bucket?
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Re: Bielsa

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:20 pm

They have to bin him to stand any chance of getting out of this free fall. It isn't a guarantee though.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:31 pm

The style Leeds play under Bielsa, I think they’d really, REALLY struggle under anyone else.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Rowls » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:32 pm

What's Owen Coyle doing?
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Re: Bielsa

Post by Juan Tanamera » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:33 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:18 pm
Has he kicked his own bucket?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Bielsa

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:33 pm

Dyche to leeds :o

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Re: Bielsa

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:34 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:31 pm
The style Leeds play under Bielsa, I think they’d really, REALLY struggle under anyone else.
If Marsch gets the job he also plays quite attacking pressing football, his RB Leipzig side this year were conceding quite a few so he got the chop after some poor results.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:00 pm

My Leeds supporting mates seem to think Bielsa is on his way....

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Re: Bielsa

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:02 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:18 pm
Has he kicked his own bucket?
Rowls wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:32 pm
What's Owen Coyle doing?
Both posts brought a smile to my face

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Re: Bielsa

Post by warksclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:05 pm

At present Bielsa looks a lost cause on the touchline, and his body language is not inspirational to the team. Such a shame we have already played them twice

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Re: Bielsa

Post by NottsClaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:05 pm

When is Kalvin Phillips back? Their record with and without him is crazy.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by tiger76 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:16 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:05 pm
When is Kalvin Phillips back? Their record with and without him is crazy.
Rumours he might be back for the Villa game (10 March). he's missed their last 10 games, and during that period they've conceded 34 goals.

His return will undoubtedly help, but how long will it take him to get up to match fitness.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:19 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:16 pm
Rumours he might be back for the Villa game (10 March). he's missed their last 10 games, and during that period they've conceded 34 goals.

His return will undoubtedly help, but how long will it take him to get up to match fitness.
Pretty sure Bielsa said this week that his return, along with Bamford, could be delayed. And while he’s a quality player you’d have to think he’d be seriously lacking in match sharpness.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by NewClaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:20 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:16 pm
Rumours he might be back for the Villa game (10 March). he's missed their last 10 games, and during that period they've conceded 34 goals.

His return will undoubtedly help, but how long will it take him to get up to match fitness.
Shame it’s not 10 May :(

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Re: Bielsa

Post by tiger76 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:28 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:19 pm
Pretty sure Bielsa said this week that his return, along with Bamford, could be delayed. And while he’s a quality player you’d have to think he’d be seriously lacking in match sharpness.
If he and Bamford are out longer term that'll be a big blow to Leeds.

For comparison imagine Burnley without Brownhill and Weghorst, we'd seriously miss both if they weren't available.

And any new manager would have the same issue with injuries that Bielsa has faced for the past few months, so changing the guy in the hot seat is no guarantee, especially this late in the season, when Leeds needs instant results, it may work for them, but it equally could backfire on them.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:08 pm

Bielsa would get them up again!

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Re: Bielsa

Post by brexit » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:12 pm

Good he will be a great replacement for Dyche

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:23 pm

sounds like he's now gone

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Re: Bielsa

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:30 pm

Lot of rumours that he’s gone but nothing confirmed

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:30 pm
Lot of rumours that he’s gone but nothing confirmed
Talksport saying gone by mutual consent. Imagine it’ll be a late tomorrow announcement from Leeds themselves with a replacement announced 83 seconds later.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:33 pm

Phillips and Bamford are a big miss for Leeds.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:25 pm

Is he the most over rated manager ever in the Premier League? I find it difficult to think of anyone else

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Re: Bielsa

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:28 pm

Looks as though it’s just a matter of sorting out all the legal stuff with Jesse Marsch set to replace Bielsa.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by JR1882 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:29 pm

Marsch flopped at Leipzig and they potted him after a few months. He had been part of the Red Bull group for years too managing NY and Salzburg so they must have had some serious misgivings to remove him and let him go.

I’m amazed anyone is surprised this is happening, Bielsa never lasts more than a few years and his last team went and won the league after he left them in the relegation zone. Total false messiah.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Bosscat » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:31 pm

Looks Like Leeds will be "Marsching on together"

https://talksport.com/football/1052204/ ... se-marsch/

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Re: Bielsa

Post by claretblue » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:33 pm

‘…and his last team went and won the league after he left them in the relegation zone…’

hope that’s not repeated! :?

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Re: Bielsa

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:41 pm

Thoughts and prayers with DA at what must be a difficult time for him

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Re: Bielsa

Post by bfcjg » Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:04 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:28 pm
Looks as though it’s just a matter of sorting out all the legal stuff with Jesse Marsch set to replace Bielsa.
Message to Leeds fans, especially one on here. Beware the Ides of Marsch.
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Re: Bielsa

Post by dsr » Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:08 am

I presume he passes the necessary work permit rules for managers?

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Blatherwickstattoo » Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:31 am

Blowing smoke up ones anus . Manager of the year 🤣🤣🤣🤣 he’s won nowt and will never win owt

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Quicknick » Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:12 am

He's as bad defensively as Coyle was.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by RVclaret » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:19 am

Quite an interesting one. Has never been in the PL relegation places. Seemingly has only one play of playing - when it works it’s pretty impressive but these recent games have shown it going horribly wrong. Gets lauded for getting arguably the biggest club in the Champ up and staying up one season, yet Dyche has kept us up for 6 seasons, got into Europe with a 7th placed finish and top 10 on another but doesn’t receive anywhere close to the same level of plaudits. Oh and Bielsa spent almost £100m last season and £25m on Dan James this.
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Re: Bielsa

Post by Nonayforever » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:24 am

The thing that irritated me was his constant use of a translator every time he appeared in an interview.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:24 am

No Plan B, i couldn't believe he was using the same ethos and tactics when he had the kids playing when the team was stuck with injuries and Covid. He’ll never work in the Premier League again.

Busted flush. File under Owen Coyle

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:32 am

Anyone who saw his amazing Athletic Bilbao side know that when he has the players and they all believe, they can be one hell of a side to watch

But you saw yesterday, certainly first half, that you can't play like that against someone as good as Harry Kane, and when you've been struggling for a while

You need 100% confidence in your abilities, and Leeds have been knocked so much in games recently that they just can't do it

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Re: Bielsa

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:03 am

Just been confirmed he's gone by Leeds.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Top Claret » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:09 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:03 am
Just been confirmed he's gone by Leeds.
What a pity he was one of our best weapons for avoiding relegation

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Re: Bielsa

Post by ClaretLoup » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:17 am

So what do they do now? Bring someone in to tighten them up after playing gung ho expansive football for the last 3/4 seasons?

Also on paper not too many "easy" games left for Leeds. Norwich at home plus Brentford and Watford away against the relegation pack.
However maybe mid-table teams with nothing to play for e.g. Leicester, Southampton, Palace, Villa Brighton etc. might be easier pickings ?

What do folk reckon?

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:17 am

Bielsa is stubborn with his tactics but the problem is the squad - they have looked all at sea without Phillips and I’m not sure another manager is going to solve that problem because most are Championship standard, particularly defensively.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Spijed » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:20 am

ClaretLoup wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:17 am
So what do they do now? Bring someone in to tighten them up after playing gung ho expansive football for the last 3/4 seasons?

Also on paper not too many "easy" games left for Leeds. Norwich at home plus Brentford and Watford away against the relegation pack.
However maybe mid-table teams with nothing to play for e.g. Leicester, Southampton, Palace, Villa Brighton etc. might be easier pickings ?

What do folk reckon?
Sounds like Jesse Marsch is similar.....

but with even less success of it working.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by bfcjg » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:24 am

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Bye then.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:36 am

bfcjg wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:24 am
gettyimages-182772748-612x612.jpg Bye then.
No one will miss you...you miserable ...miserable man.

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Re: Bielsa

Post by bfcjg » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:51 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:36 am
No one will miss you...you miserable ...miserable man.
Steve, how did you know it was Devils Advocate.
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