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Team v Chelsea

Post by tiger76 » Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:51 pm

Definitely changes required from Tuesday as some were leggy.

I'd bring Cork back in, and there might be a case for Lowton in place of Roberts given Chelsea's strength in the wide areas. Mee has to be a doubt, and if there's any question I'd rest him for Brentford, Cornet I'd try on the left and give Lennon a break.

Pope
Lowton Tarks Collins Taylor
Cornet Cork Brownhill McNeil
WW Jay
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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by Goobs » Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:14 am

Pope
Roberts Collins Tarks Taylor
Lennon Brownhill Cork Cornet
Jayrod Weghorst
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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:24 am

Pope
Roberts Lowton Bardsley Collins Tarks Long Taylor
Lennon Westwood Brownhill Cork McNeil
Jay Barnes Weghorst Cornet

That'll give moaning Tuchel something to complain about

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:11 am

From what dyche said about Cornet just needed to find moments:

Pope
Roberts Tarks Mee Taylor/Pieters (don’t mind)
Lennon cork brownhill mcniel
Cornet WW

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by RVclaret » Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:25 am

Pope
Roberts Collins Tark Taylor
Lennon Cork Brownhill Cornet
McNeil
Weghorst
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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by claretspice » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:43 am

Two thoughts on this.

Firstly, we've always done OK against teams playing Tuchel/Conte's system by matching their 3-4-3 with a 4-4-2. It allows our back 4 to stay narrow against their leading striker and inside forwards, and then matches our midfield 4 against their 2 holding players and wing backs - with 2 strikers able to give us a platform against a back 3 when we get the ball. The key to that is of course the work rate and tactical acumen of the two wide players. Lennon is a given for that job and McNeil (for all his detractors) is better than the vast majority of creative players in that regard, and certainly better than Cornet. It also relies on the strikers giving us a platform when we get the ball to get us up the pitch and out of our defensive shape, and filling in holes defensively. Given Cornet hasn't worked as a striker in giving us a platform (including at Stamford Bridge, where he was hooked having been pretty ineffective), and Rodriguez and Weghorst have, it seems to me a no brainer to go 4-4-2 but leave Cornet on the bench.

The counter-thought is that at Stamford Bridge we became more effective when Dwight went centrally and we matched 3 up against their back 3 and risked giving the wing backs space. My view would be though that bringing cornet off the bench to make that shape as an option is a much better bet than starting in that shape.
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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:16 am

Pope
Roberts Collins Tarka Taylor
Lennon Cork Brownhill McNeil
Weghorst
Cornet

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:52 am

Cork for Westwood and Jay Rod for Cornet. Presuming Pieters is definitely out?

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by Mala591 » Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:10 pm

Have patience, Cornet and Weghorst up front will come good.
Assuming Pieters is unavailable

Pope
Roberts Tarks Mee Taylor
Lennon Brownhill Cork McNeil
Weghorst Cornet

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:33 pm

Pope
Roberts Tarks Mee Taylor
Lennon Brownhill Westwood Cornet
Weghorst JayR

Our strongest line up just about .

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:42 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:24 am
Pope
Roberts Lowton Bardsley Collins Tarks Long Taylor
Lennon Westwood Brownhill Cork McNeil
Jay Barnes Weghorst Cornet

That'll give moaning Tuchel something to complain about
I think Cornet would be better on the bench to use if we are chasing the game and I'd play Pope in the centre of his goals rather than behind Roberts protecting the corner flag. Apart from that I reckon your team could maybe get a draw if we played well

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:24 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:42 pm
I think Cornet would be better on the bench to use if we are chasing the game and I'd play Pope in the centre of his goals rather than behind Roberts protecting the corner flag. Apart from that I reckon your team could maybe get a draw if we played well
:D

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:37 pm

Lowton in for Roberts .....better defensively.

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:51 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:52 am
Cork for Westwood and Jay Rod for Cornet. Presuming Pieters is definitely out?
Pieters is out. I'd make those two changes plus Collins for Mee.

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by warksclaret » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:51 pm
Pieters is out. I'd make those two changes plus Collins for Mee.
Exactly my choice. Jay and Cork deserve to start and Cornet on the bench gives us 3 options if we need to bring him on. Jay & VW will offer the Chelsea defence more of a threat and physical presence

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by andyh » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:45 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:42 pm
I think Cornet would be better on the bench to use if we are chasing the game and I'd play Pope in the centre of his goals rather than behind Roberts protecting the corner flag. Apart from that I reckon your team could maybe get a draw if we played well
Who is this WE you talk of. You are a Leeds fan are you not?

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:59 pm

andyh wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:45 pm
Who is this WE you talk of. You are a Leeds fan are you not?
None of that talk please or else you'll have superdimitri and his pals crying again

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:16 pm

I expect this:

Pope,
Roberts, Collins, Tarkowski (C), Taylor,
Lennon, Brownhill, Cork, McNeil,
Rodriguez, Weghorst.

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Re: Team v Chelsea

Post by warksclaret » Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:23 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:16 pm
I expect this:

Pope,
Roberts, Collins, Tarkowski (C), Taylor,
Lennon, Brownhill, Cork, McNeil,
Rodriguez, Weghorst.
Me too (not Ben)

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