Abramovich sanctioned by UK

Claretincraven · Post by **Claretincraven** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:38 am

Could this be the beginning of the end for Chelsea.
I really hope so.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60690362

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:41 am

Wonder if the no selling tickets will mean no away fans?

BERNIEU · Post by **BERNIEU** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:41 am

Does this mean Chelsea has been frozen and can't be sold?

BERNIEU · Post by **BERNIEU** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:50 am

aggi wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:41 am
Wonder if the no selling tickets will mean no away fans?

In a different article it says:
“That will allow fixtures to be fulfilled, staff to be paid and existing ticket holders to attend matches,” Ms Dorries said, “while, crucially, depriving Abramovich of benefiting from his ownership of the club.”

So I guess 'existing ticket holders' means no away fans.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:52 am

Claretincraven wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:38 am
Could this be the beginning of the end for Chelsea.
I really hope so.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60690362

They've so many talented youngsters on their books that get loaned out. They'll just use them to supplement the first team if they can't make any signings.

Weren't they under a transfer embargo no so long ago?

Claretincraven · Post by **Claretincraven** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:54 am

No further ticket sales.
Merchandising stopped.
The Club has been seized, effectively blocking any sale.
Pi$$ing my self laughing at this, just imagine the angst amongst all those diamond geezers.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:55 am

Spijed wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:52 am
They've so many talented youngsters on their books that get loaned out. They'll just use them to supplement the first team if they can't make any signings.

Weren't they under a transfer embargo no so long ago?

Yeah, that's why they gave Lampard the managers job and he actually did well then, better than when they could sign players.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:02 am

I assume this means they cannot sell season tickets for next season??

That could get interesting.

BERNIEU · Post by **BERNIEU** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:02 am

They apparently have around 28,000 season ticket holders, but could still affect them on the pitch I guess, with a capacity of over 40,000.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:05 am

After the Chelsea fans singing his name during the minutes applause for Ukraine at the weekend, this is f****** fantastic news.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:06 am

At the simplest level, I suppose if money from ground refreshments go to the club they won't be able to sell them at games

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:08 am

Very interesting.

It’s all very well stopping ticket sales and merchandising but the biggest issue is the tv revenues. If you stop the shop and tickets what happens to the sky money, surely that gets stopped. Therefore, they need to pay players from existing assets and no Sky money comes in. Sky are still advertising their next game.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:15 am

Didn’t see this coming…

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:15 am

Looks pretty restrictive

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:16 am

Allowed to get TV revenues but the money will be frozen other than to meet the allowable costs.

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:20 am

Everton next ?

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:23 am

Dy1geo wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:20 am
Everton next ?

Read yesterday they might be in for a points deduction. I bloody hope so.

Outrageous how they should be able to break the rules for four years while clubs like ours play by them.

BERNIEU · Post by **BERNIEU** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:26 am

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:23 am
Read yesterday they might be in for a points deduction. I bloody hope so.

Outrageous how they should be able to break the rules for four years while clubs like ours play by them.

I also read this, but it's likely to be next season at the earliest even if they did get punished (can't see it).

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:27 am

So effectively the TV money is treated the same as an agreed regular payment for a season ticket. Looks like there will be little or no effect on the actual club other than the cheaper travel arrangements and limited attendances.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:32 am

Claretincraven wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:54 am
Pi$$ing my self laughing at this, just imagine the angst amongst all those diamond geezers.

The majority of these "diamond geezers" are no different to the people on here where watching their football club is a big part of their life and for some it probably plays a large factor in managing their mental health and wellbeing. Abramovich is the problem not the normal football fan and I find it really sad that people are so quick to laugh at other peoples problems.

I hope if you face difficulties in your life that the people around you give you support and dont just laugh and mock you

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:35 am

Hibsclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:27 am
So effectively the TV money is treated the same as an agreed regular payment for a season ticket. Looks like there will be little or no effect on the actual club other than the cheaper travel arrangements and limited attendances.

Not much impact in the short term but it will be significant if it goes on for a while.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:36 am

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:32 am
The majority of these "diamond geezers" are no different to the people on here where watching their football club is a big part of their life and for some it probably plays a large factor in managing their mental health and wellbeing. Abramovich is the problem not the normal football fan and I find it really sad that people are so quick to laugh at other peoples problems.

I hope if you face difficulties in your life that the people around you give you support and dont just laugh and mock you

It makes it a bit easier to laugh at them after seeing a load of them singing his name last week though.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:43 am

aggi wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:36 am
It makes it a bit easier to laugh at them after seeing a load of them singing his name last week though.

This

I had some sympathy until that

Now?

Not an iota

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:44 am

Their wage bill will be far higher than money coming in. I presume RA didn't leave much in the club accounts?

Have I read it right that any loan fees from other clubs stops? Will that mean Chelsea loan players won't play for their clubs from now?

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:44 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:05 am
After the Chelsea fans singing his name during the minutes applause for Ukraine at the weekend, this is f****** fantastic news.

Exactly this, actually smiling away at the thought of the anger on some of their faces

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:49 am

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GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:53 am

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:44 am
Their wage bill will be far higher than money coming in. I presume RA didn't leave much in the club accounts?

Have I read it right that any loan fees from other clubs stops? Will that mean Chelsea loan players won't play for their clubs from now?

Any deals agreed before the sanctions will continue as normal, so that includes loan fees, players wages, TV monies etc.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:01 am

Anyone care to bet that the Premier League will bend over backwards to help one of their darlings?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:04 am

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:01 am
Anyone care to bet that the Premier League will bend over backwards to help one of their darlings?

There isn't a right lot they can do tbh.

All pre-existing deals can carry on, so the club can function as per the special licence.

The Gov can, and probably will, take control of the sale of the club, to ensure Abramovich doesn't get the money, the PL will have no control over that.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:09 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:04 am
There isn't a right lot they can do tbh.

All pre-existing deals can carry on, so the club can function as per the special licence.

The Gov can, and probably will, take control of the sale of the club, to ensure Abramovich doesn't get the money, the PL will have no control over that.

The market for billionaires willing to spend money without a care in the world is very limited now though

Three are already reviewing their sponsorship in line with this, and I don't think they will be the only ones

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:12 am

Yeah I've just seen that news about 3.

Going to be interesting to see how many more review their deals.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:14 am

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:01 am
Anyone care to bet that the Premier League will bend over backwards to help one of their darlings?

It wouldn’t be the first time the the Prem have bent over and “taken one for the team” . Though as GIADJ says probably not a lot they can do directly as Chelsea will continue to run as per normal and the govt will likely broker the sale . If it’s true that buyers are “ queuing up” I think they’ll be fine . Though a heavily delayed sale may cause them no end of carnage .

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:29 am

New Chelsea team coach looks cool!

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Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:37 am

2013 and very relevant today

https://twitter.com/matthewsyed/status/ ... 9220152322

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:39 am

By heck the Clarets aren’t half unlucky.

We get Leicester, Vardy does us in one game, returns from injury to do us in another game, then gets injured again shortly after.

Chelsea turn up, more or less full strength, roared on by their (foul) fans. Then they won’t have away fans for future fixtures.

Add to to the bad luck with injuries when we went to Leeds and Newcastle, and numerous other things over the season (not getting pens etc). We’ve been up against it.

Back on topic though - other clubs will be getting a bit twitchy too, owned by shall we say dubious persons. Once we have done something once, it becomes easier to do it again.

pompeyclaret · Post by **pompeyclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:42 am

Doesn't Roman put money into the club for it to run? Seems odd, he doesn't take money out of it, is this just for reputation damage?
Can the players chip in for travel- if they progress in Europe no way can they travel on that budget (unless they get an English team).

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:42 am

BERNIEU wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:26 am
I also read this, but it's likely to be next season at the earliest even if they did get punished (can't see it).

I read that accounts needed to be updated by end of this month? In which case presumably any sanctions would take effect this year?

My hope was that PL might learn from EFL’s mistakes with Boro/Wycombe scenario and actually dish out the punishment more quickly… but probably not.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:50 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:39 am
By heck the Clarets aren’t half unlucky.

We get Leicester, Vardy does us in one game, returns from injury to do us in another game, then gets injured again shortly after.

Chelsea turn up, more or less full strength, roared on by their (foul) fans. Then they won’t have away fans for future fixtures.

Add to to the bad luck with injuries when we went to Leeds and Newcastle, and numerous other things over the season (not getting pens etc). We’ve been up against it.

Back on topic though - other clubs will be getting a bit twitchy too, owned by shall we say dubious persons. Once we have done something once, it becomes easier to do it again.

Is that right that they won’t have Chelsea fans at away games?

I thought it was no away fans at Stamford Bridge.

Ticket sales for their away games go to the home club so, nothing goes to Chelsea so I don’t see why that would be the case

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:51 am

Can't see the Everton points deduction happening, always something you read about but very rarely happens.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:51 am

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:50 am
Is that right that they won’t have Chelsea fans at away games?

I thought it was no away fans at Stamford Bridge.

Ticket sales for their away games go to the home club so, nothing goes to Chelsea so I don’t see why that would be the case

Will Chelsea be able to sell the tickets on behalf of the home clubs?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:54 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:05 am
After the Chelsea fans singing his name during the minutes applause for Ukraine at the weekend, this is f****** fantastic news.

Karma is a cruel mistress, welcome to the real world again Chelsea.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:55 am

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:44 am
Their wage bill will be far higher than money coming in. I presume RA didn't leave much in the club accounts?

Have I read it right that any loan fees from other clubs stops? Will that mean Chelsea loan players won't play for their clubs from now?

There was £4,000 in the bank in the last financial statements.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:58 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:39 am
By heck the Clarets aren’t half unlucky.

We get Leicester, Vardy does us in one game, returns from injury to do us in another game, then gets injured again shortly after.

Chelsea turn up, more or less full strength, roared on by their (foul) fans. Then they won’t have away fans for future fixtures.

Add to to the bad luck with injuries when we went to Leeds and Newcastle, and numerous other things over the season (not getting pens etc). We’ve been up against it.

Back on topic though - other clubs will be getting a bit twitchy too, owned by shall we say dubious persons. Once we have done something once, it becomes easier to do it again.

We also played Leeds and Newcastle with a days less rest than our opponents.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:59 am

KefkaClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:51 am
Can't see the Everton points deduction happening, always something you read about but very rarely happens.

Points deductions do happen on a regular basis, but usually to FL clubs, Derby & Sheff Wed are just 2 who spring to mind, but I'm sure there's been a few others who've suffered, however pretty slim chance of Everton being penalised I'm afraid, and any punishment wouldn't apply this season anyway, particularly when they are at great risk of relegation.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:00 pm

I certainly don’t feel sorry for them. They still have an incredibly talented squad, top class manager and probably outstanding youth set up. Most of the supporters will have season tickets. They will have another sugar daddy when it all blows over and 90% of English clubs would gladly swap.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:00 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:51 am
Will Chelsea be able to sell the tickets on behalf of the home clubs?

I don’t know, but I can’t see why they shouldn’t be able to

If that’s the case, what about the cup games they may have (FA & Champions League)
They’ve probably already sold for next round of games but if they go through and know it’s different authority with FA & UEFA but the sanctions do include those

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:24 pm

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:00 pm

I don’t know, but I can’t see why they shouldn’t be able to

If that’s the case, what about the cup games they may have (FA & Champions League)
They’ve probably already sold for next round of games but if they go through and know it’s different authority with FA & UEFA but the sanctions do include those

If Chelsea were/are to make money by selling tickets on behalf of the home clubs then no I don’t think they will be allowed to sell them.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:39 pm

aggi wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:36 am
It makes it a bit easier to laugh at them after seeing a load of them singing his name last week though.

Lots of Burnley fans have sung some terrible stuff about people including their death and Im sure the Chelsea fans have had a lot of goading (you just had to look at some of the threads on here) by other fans and this tribal mentality on both sides is a bit sad when it plummets into subjects as important as what is happening in the Ukraine.

A group of Chelsea fans singing Abramovich's name (likely in response to equally tasteless chants from opposition fans) does not make me want to laugh at the many true football fans and want to see them suffer and not able to follow and support one of the things they love the most in life.

If you want to laugh at them then fair enough but I really don't get this kind of attitude and for me its a reflection of the general sad state of our society

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:40 pm

Free tickets for all......

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:48 pm

aggi wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:36 am
It makes it a bit easier to laugh at them after seeing a load of them singing his name last week though.

& our fans wouldn’t do exactly the same as the Chelsea fans if another RA took over the ownership at burnley & did just as much for us as he’s done for them we’d be all over it. We are finding fault by the circumstance that our position isn’t as favourable