Red card.
Red card.
Collins' card was surely not for violent conduct so, presumably, it was for denying a goal scoring opportunity. I was under the impression that if a penalty resulted, dismissal was not required (goal scoring opportunity still exists).
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Re: Red card.
I believe that only applies if you attempt to win the ball. I don't believe Collins did.
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Pen for sure. 50-50 on the sending off.
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Is he now suspended ?
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Based on the laws of the games as per below it was a definite red card
DENYING A GOAL OR AN OBVIOUS GOAL-SCORING OPPORTUNITY
Where a player denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a handball offence the player is sent off wherever the offence occurs.
Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off.
DENYING A GOAL OR AN OBVIOUS GOAL-SCORING OPPORTUNITY
Where a player denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a handball offence the player is sent off wherever the offence occurs.
Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off.
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I don’t know that’s why I ask.
Anybody know out there please?
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Re: Red card.
but for how many matches?
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Re: Red card.
One.
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Clear penalty but also he's clearly challenged for the ball so it shouldn't be a sending off. He doesn't get anywhere near it but the intent is there.
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I asked a civil question all that was required was a civil answer thank you.
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He didn't challenge for the ball. He pushed him in the back. No intent to play the ball at all.quoonbeatz wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:21 amClear penalty but also he's clearly challenged for the ball so it shouldn't be a sending off. He doesn't get anywhere near it but the intent is there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxVn6BtaEfU
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Not sure about that, he's putting pressure on the attacker and challenging him. It's not like he's kicked his legs out from under him. Clear penalty, but not a red card for me.
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What do you see that makes it a clear penalty?
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Red card and penalty aside, who comes in next game ??
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Long if Mee isn't ready.alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:39 amRed card and penalty aside, who comes in next game ??
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He very clearly sticks his right leg in, in an attempt to get the ball. He gets nowhere near it and bundles Toney over. Clear foul but not a red card, according to the law.Hipper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:46 amHe didn't challenge for the ball. He pushed him in the back. No intent to play the ball at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxVn6BtaEfU
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Thanks, DA.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:54 amBased on the laws of the games as per below it was a definite red card
Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off.[/i]
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quoonbeatz wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:42 amHe very clearly sticks his right leg in, in an attempt to get the ball. He gets nowhere near it and bundles Toney over. Clear foul but not a red card, according to the law.
He certainly did, after making up a lot of ground to catch Toney. There was a coming together and a penalty was correct, however, how Tierney saw that as a red card is beyond me, although, much that happens in the modern game is a mystery to me.
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Blatant red, clumsy and naive challenge.
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If we can't even agree on that being a red card and penalty as fans, then how can we expect referees to be consistent?
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Lee Mason on VAR.We will never ever get anything in the history of football from him.he is so consistant and bad against us.Arsenal etc.he hates us with a passion.loving where we are now.on the pitch he is worse!
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Absolutely agree with this - it feels this season like any “in the refs opinion” decision has needed to be made then any chance to give it against us has been taken.Ashingtonclaret46 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:22 pmHe certainly did, after making up a lot of ground to catch Toney. There was a coming together and a penalty was correct, however, how Tierney saw that as a red card is beyond me, although, much that happens in the modern game is a mystery to me.
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I feel there's more than ineptitude behind Tierney's decisions when it comes to Burnley. It all started at Huddersfield.
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I'd be surprised if Thomas was to start ahead of Long.
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Right.
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Yes
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Leicester at home when we finished 7th. He scored early on.
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You sure?
Thought it was 3 for a straight red and 4 if you appeal and lose
Sorry just checked and seems only suspended til 10th April so will just miss the city game
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Im not seeking to reassure you. I'm answering the question you asked.
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Good for you. I wouldn't be confident whoever starts given who we play next.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:55 pmNever mind, I feel ultra confident that dependable old Kev will step in and do the business.
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