Red card.

[Bullabill]

Collins' card was surely not for violent conduct so, presumably, it was for denying a goal scoring opportunity. I was under the impression that if a penalty resulted, dismissal was not required (goal scoring opportunity still exists).

[Goobs]

I believe that only applies if you attempt to win the ball. I don't believe Collins did.

[IanMcL]

Pen for sure. 50-50 on the sending off.

[Peter Loo]

Is he now suspended ?

[Devils_Advocate]

Based on the laws of the games as per below it was a definite red card

DENYING A GOAL OR AN OBVIOUS GOAL-SCORING OPPORTUNITY

Where a player denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a handball offence the player is sent off wherever the offence occurs.

Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off.

[fidelcastro]

Is he now suspended ?

Let's see... red card.

What do you think?

[Peter Loo]

Let's see... red card.

What do you think?

I don’t know that’s why I ask.

Anybody know out there please?

[claretblue]

Let's see... red card.

What do you think?

but for how many matches?

[fidelcastro]

but for how many matches?

One.

[fidelcastro]

I don’t know that’s why I ask.

Anybody know out there please?

Did you only start watching football yesterday?

[quoonbeatz]

Clear penalty but also he's clearly challenged for the ball so it shouldn't be a sending off. He doesn't get anywhere near it but the intent is there.

[Peter Loo]

Did you only start watching football yesterday?

I asked a civil question all that was required was a civil answer thank you.

[Hipper]

Clear penalty but also he's clearly challenged for the ball so it shouldn't be a sending off. He doesn't get anywhere near it but the intent is there.

He didn't challenge for the ball. He pushed him in the back. No intent to play the ball at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxVn6BtaEfU

[duncandisorderly]

Not sure about that, he's putting pressure on the attacker and challenging him. It's not like he's kicked his legs out from under him. Clear penalty, but not a red card for me.

[Hipper]

What do you see that makes it a clear penalty?

[alwaysaclaret]

Red card and penalty aside, who comes in next game ??

[taio]

Red card and penalty aside, who comes in next game ??

Long if Mee isn't ready.

[quoonbeatz]

He didn't challenge for the ball. He pushed him in the back. No intent to play the ball at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxVn6BtaEfU

He very clearly sticks his right leg in, in an attempt to get the ball. He gets nowhere near it and bundles Toney over. Clear foul but not a red card, according to the law.

[Bullabill]

Based on the laws of the games as per below it was a definite red card


Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off.[/i]

Thanks, DA.

[DCWat]

Long if Mee isn't ready.

Shudder

[taio]

Shudder

A little unfair when you consider the perspective - he's fourth choice and more often than not hasn't let us down when he's had to come in from the cold and play.

[Ashingtonclaret46]

He very clearly sticks his right leg in, in an attempt to get the ball. He gets nowhere near it and bundles Toney over. Clear foul but not a red card, according to the law.

He certainly did, after making up a lot of ground to catch Toney. There was a coming together and a penalty was correct, however, how Tierney saw that as a red card is beyond me, although, much that happens in the modern game is a mystery to me.

[Milltown1882]

Blatant red, clumsy and naive challenge.

[KRBFC]

If we can't even agree on that being a red card and penalty as fans, then how can we expect referees to be consistent?

[k90bfc]

Lee Mason on VAR.We will never ever get anything in the history of football from him.he is so consistant and bad against us.Arsenal etc.he hates us with a passion.loving where we are now.on the pitch he is worse!

[fidelcastro]

I asked a civil question all that was required was a civil answer thank you.

What do you think normally happens to a player who receives a red card?

[alwaysaclaret]

Long if Mee isn't ready.

Still 2 right foots then.

Not seen him play so clearly don't have a clue, is Bobby Thomas another right footer does anyone know, if he is we're in even bigger trouble.

[Bobzuruncle]

He certainly did, after making up a lot of ground to catch Toney. There was a coming together and a penalty was correct, however, how Tierney saw that as a red card is beyond me, although, much that happens in the modern game is a mystery to me.

Absolutely agree with this - it feels this season like any “in the refs opinion” decision has needed to be made then any chance to give it against us has been taken.

[dougcollins]

I feel there's more than ineptitude behind Tierney's decisions when it comes to Burnley. It all started at Huddersfield.

[boatshed bill]

Long if Mee isn't ready.

Bobby Thomas.

[taio]

Bobby Thomas.

I'd be surprised if Thomas was to start ahead of Long.

[boatshed bill]

I'd be surprised if Thomas was to start ahead of Long.

So would I. But he might have a brilliant game.

[taio]

So would I. But he might have a brilliant game.

Right.

[boatshed bill]

I'd be surprised if Thomas was to start ahead of Long.

Have we ever won a PL game when KL has started?

[taio]

Have we ever won a PL game when KL has started?

Yes

[Spijed]

Have we ever won a PL game when KL has started?

Leicester at home when we finished 7th. He scored early on.

[boatshed bill]

Yes

That's reassured me beyond my wildest dreams

[CBT]

One.

You sure?
Thought it was 3 for a straight red and 4 if you appeal and lose

Sorry just checked and seems only suspended til 10th April so will just miss the city game

[taio]

That's reassured me beyond my wildest dreams

Im not seeking to reassure you. I'm answering the question you asked.

[boatshed bill]

Im not seeking to reassure you. I'm answering the question you asked.

Never mind, I feel ultra confident that dependable old Kev will step in and do the business.

[taio]

Never mind, I feel ultra confident that dependable old Kev will step in and do the business.

Good for you. I wouldn't be confident whoever starts given who we play next.