The Everton match
The Everton match
Do we have any idea when we're to find out when the postponed game is to be played? I was starting to feel a bit resigned to our relegation after the Brentford match then I saw Everton's run-in. Brutal. Don't give me that hope!
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their run in is indeed brutal, and that will be our salvation.
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I hope you are right !!!!!!!Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:01 amtheir run in is indeed brutal, and that will be our salvation.
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Their last 3 are possibly winnable if Arsenal are on the beach but most of the last 6 or 7 are games for Everton including us could help us stay up in place of them especially if we could pick up a few wins, regarding our rearranged game against Everton it would be nice for it to be placed midweek inbeteeen these
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Another game we won't turn up to
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Watford fans will be having the same conversation, I will need more convincing then our legendary in Dyche we trust blind optimism.
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Let’s not worry about Watford then coming up the rails, currently a short head in front of us?Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:01 amtheir run in is indeed brutal, and that will be our salvation.
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With Everton still in the cup they have had more PPs with their Crystal Palace game being off. The winner of their FA Cup game this weekend will go through so not available for their prem game a few weeks later.
Watford look the team to get out of it at the minute as they score goals.
Watford look the team to get out of it at the minute as they score goals.
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Oh yes, Watford have scored 6 goals in their last 10 matches and have conceded 18.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:53 amWith Everton still in the cup they have had more PPs with their Crystal Palace game being off. The winner of their FA Cup game this weekend will go through so not available for their prem game a few weeks later.
Watford look the team to get out of it at the minute as they score goals.
For the record, our non-scoring team have scored 6 goals in the last 10 matches and have conceded 11.
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They have scored 29 from 29 games but seem to hit multiple goals rather than singles. This approach gives you far more chance of winning in my eyes.Ashingtonclaret46 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:01 amOh yes, Watford have scored 6 goals in their last 10 matches and have conceded 18.
For the record, our non-scoring team have scored 6 goals in the last 10 matches and have conceded 11.
Some prefer the clean sheet method and try and knick one.
We have failed to score in far too many matches.
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It matters not what Everton do or don't do, if we approach this game in the same negative way as we did Leeds, Newcastle and Brentford, we are screwed.
You can play well and get beat, that's life, but when you don't turn up for the BIG games time after time, it's pathetic. So cautious, so negative, we are the oppositions dream match.
You can play well and get beat, that's life, but when you don't turn up for the BIG games time after time, it's pathetic. So cautious, so negative, we are the oppositions dream match.
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You thought we were negative and/or didn't turn up at Brentford?Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:37 amIt matters not what Everton do or don't do, if we approach this game in the same negative way as we did Leeds, Newcastle and Brentford, we are screwed.
You can play well and get beat, that's life, but when you don't turn up for the BIG games time after time, it's pathetic. So cautious, so negative, we are the oppositions dream match.
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Two very poor sides in truth. The surprise was they lumped it forward more than we did.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:50 amYou thought we were negative and/or didn't turn up at Brentford?
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I think we play on the back foot, when we should be on the front. I don't mind playing hoofball, IF we have our noses in front and are trying to hang on to a lead. When we play hoofball from the kick off, the initiative is handed to the opposition, and against teams that are under pressure just like us, it's a gift. We had good spells in all those big matches we lost, but if we had played them with the right intensity, and tactics, I believe we could have won them all.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:50 amYou thought we were negative and/or didn't turn up at Brentford?
The problem with going for it in the last 20 mins, is it only takes one mistake, and you have little time left to put it right.
I said on the match thread on Saturday, I could see Brentford pinching a goal in the last 5 mins, and nicking it. I also said IF it happened, it would be no more than we deserve.
We have the players and team, to get out of this, but only if we change our attitude to these matches.
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I have friends who are Brentford fans and were at the game. They thought Burnley were much more adventurous than Brentford, they thought we were the team more likely to win it.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:50 amYou thought we were negative and/or didn't turn up at Brentford?
Talking between themselves at half time they said they would happily take a draw with how the game had gone.
Until their 1st goal they were still of that same opinion.
After the game had finished they told me Brentford had stolen the 3 points. So from their point of view Burnley had played well enough to win the game but as is often the case we couldn't put the ball in the net.
Also they couldn't understand why Dwight McNeil hadn't passed the ball into the net with his right foot instead of going for the header which he made a complete hash of.
But all Burnley fans know the answer to that!
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They were rightTargetman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:22 pmI have friends who are Brentford fans and were at the game. They thought Burnley were much more adventurous than Brentford, they thought we were the team more likely to win it.
Talking between themselves at half time they said they would happily take a draw with how the game had gone.
Until their 1st goal they were still of that same opinion.
After the game had finished they told me Brentford had stolen the 3 points. So from their point of view Burnley had played well enough to win the game but as is often the case we couldn't put the ball in the net.
Also they couldn't understand why Dwight McNeil hadn't passed the ball into the net with his right foot instead of going for the header which he made a complete hash of.
But all Burnley fans know the answer to that!
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Hopefully now we actually are desperate to win games,draws are no good now for a while at least unless Everton and Leeds lose every game we might actually play with more urgency and efforts on goal become more important then balls into channels and sideways passing. We do have some bl00dy good attacking players, just unleash them.
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Should have won at Brentford.Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:37 amIt matters not what Everton do or don't do, if we approach this game in the same negative way as we did Leeds, Newcastle and Brentford, we are screwed.
You can play well and get beat, that's life, but when you don't turn up for the BIG games time after time, it's pathetic. So cautious, so negative, we are the oppositions dream match.
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Like a few others, I have stopped looking at the messageboard for a few days immediately after a defeat.
To be honest I thought for the most part it was a decent game on Saturday. There some well below performances from a few key players but until that last 5 minutes I felt there if there was a winner it would be from us.
We are struggling though against the teams in and around us though. I fancied us against Everton before it was postponed. Now not so confident.
To be honest I thought for the most part it was a decent game on Saturday. There some well below performances from a few key players but until that last 5 minutes I felt there if there was a winner it would be from us.
We are struggling though against the teams in and around us though. I fancied us against Everton before it was postponed. Now not so confident.
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Not sure about not as confident as previous against Everton.
Would rather take on a Lampard side at home than a Rafa side
Would rather take on a Lampard side at home than a Rafa side
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If they continue on their current run I'm not sure Lampard would be in charge by the time we play them.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:27 pmNot sure about not as confident as previous against Everton.
Would rather take on a Lampard side at home than a Rafa side
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It may surprsie you to know that Watford have failed to score in 14 matches, exactly the same as the Clarets.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:14 amThey have scored 29 from 29 games but seem to hit multiple goals rather than singles. This approach gives you far more chance of winning in my eyes.
Some prefer the clean sheet method and try and knick one.
We have failed to score in far too many matches.
They have scored 4 goals once in October and 5 goals once in November. They scored 3 goals in two matches, the Clarets have managed that three times.
They have scored two goals in three matches as opposed to our twice. They average 11 shots per game, whilst we average 10shots per game.
None of these statistics give a lot of hope for either team in the grand scale of things.
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I hope beyond hope I'm proved wrong. UTC.
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Third time lucky - is it televised?
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Speaking to Brentford Dan's on the way back, they felt the opposite.Targetman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:22 pmI have friends who are Brentford fans and were at the game. They thought Burnley were much more adventurous than Brentford, they thought we were the team more likely to win it.
Talking between themselves at half time they said they would happily take a draw with how the game had gone.
Until their 1st goal they were still of that same opinion.
After the game had finished they told me Brentford had stolen the 3 points. So from their point of view Burnley had played well enough to win the game but as is often the case we couldn't put the ball in the net.
Also they couldn't understand why Dwight McNeil hadn't passed the ball into the net with his right foot instead of going for the header which he made a complete hash of.
But all Burnley fans know the answer to that!
They never really felt in trouble and didn't think at any point they would lose.
They agreed it was a poor game, snd they were clearly playing on the break, as a draw was an ok result for them with their recent form, however pointed out they could have been at least a couple up at the break, they had the by far better chances, and but for a Pope wonder save, and a Tarky clearance off the line would have had a comfortable half time lead.
To be fair Collins made a last ditch tackle to when they looked nailed on yo score.
A very poor game, where our left side was constantly exploited and where they worked several good openings including the one that led to the penalty.
If we were the home side Saturday, you'd think it was a well executed plan, and a comfortable win with your GK having very little to do.
Our back line and GK were by far the busier and most stretched
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I never said we shouldn't, but the fact is we keep losing these games that we should have won. It isn't coincidence, there's a reason. The main factor being we don't put the pressure on , mostly through hoofing the ball instead of keeping it on the deck.
If we could have replicated the pace, intensity and football we played at Brighton we would have won. The fact we didn't wasn't because of Brentford, it was because of us. We shoot ourselves in the foot. We are frightened of going behind so play it easy for 70mins. Personally I'd rather go behind after 25mins, than 85, maybe it's just me.
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Everton aren’t going down lad it doesn’t matter if Micky mouse was in charge they’ll find the points from somewhere, we had the chance to draw Brentford within 3 points & blew it, I told you palace would be ok this season & last with RH & PV & Newcastle with SB & EH & villa would be ok when plenty predicted the loss of grealish would spell doom, to be fair I’m struggling to remember when I’ve been wrong with what I’ve said to you.
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Or they will find another keeper to bung to dive over an easy saving chance?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:11 pmEverton aren’t going down lad it doesn’t matter if Micky mouse was in charge they’ll find the points from somewhere, we had the chance to draw Brentford within 3 points & blew it, I told you palace would be ok this season & last with RH & PV & Newcastle with SB & EH & villa would be ok when plenty predicted the loss of grealish would spell doom, to be fair I’m struggling to remember when I’ve been wrong with what I’ve said to you.