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Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by ClaretDiver » Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:31 pm

Not sure if this has been mentioned but Chelsie have requested their FA Cup tie be played behind closed doors? I don’t see why Boro fans should be punished….

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Sproggy » Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:36 pm

Open all the stands for home fans.

Pathetic from Chelsea.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by claret wizard » Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:53 pm

Chelsea really should be kicked out, let ‘boro go through.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:59 pm

Just read the Chelsea statement, what a classless club now asking for sporting integrity

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by giveusaB » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:00 pm

If Chelsea win what happens to the Quarter final prize money of £360,000 and also their share of the tie being televised ?

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by ALP » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:11 pm

**** poor from Chelsea, why on earth should Bore be penalised for their rotten owner?

Tell em to screw themselves.
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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:24 pm

Bankrolled for 20 years by Abramovich, then squealing about " sporting integrity " 😁
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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:25 pm

Everything comes to he who waits.

Now they are seeing what it's like to be at a disadvantage.

Welcome to most other club's worlds.

Enjoy it, you classless, self centered, pampered bunch of entitled to$$er$.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:26 pm

giveusaB wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:00 pm
If Chelsea win what happens to the Quarter final prize money of £360,000 and also their share of the tie being televised ?

The FA should donate it to the Ukraine fund seen as Chelsea can't have it and Ukraine needs it due to actions of their owners pal

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by duncandisorderly » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:28 pm

If the argument is that it's fair that both teams have fans, and unfair that one team doesn't have fans, then it would be fair for neither team to have fans and simply award the tie to middlesbrough.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:30 pm

giveusaB wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:00 pm
If Chelsea win what happens to the Quarter final prize money of £360,000 and also their share of the tie being televised ?
I think I read that they can keep prize money but in an account giving Abramovich no access.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:39 pm

Chelsea have already sold a significant number of tickets for this game which confuses the issue. They’ve even offered to give the rest away.

All a bit confusing.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by claretburns » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:43 pm

From BBC:

Within government I am told by one senior source that there is "exasperation" at what was described to me as a "tin-eared request" by Chelsea to play the match behind closed doors.

Officials feel they are bending over backwards to allow Chelsea to play with a special license when other businesses in similar circumstances would not have received such assistance, and that they have been listening to the club's concerns.

But the feeling within Whitehall is that Chelsea are now trying to penalise other clubs for the predicament that they are in, and are mystified they are prioritising tickets and travel arrangements.

I am told Chelsea wanted 4,000 fans at Middlesbrough rather than the 500 they were due to have, and that this is seen as "throwing their toys out of the pram" at the first opportunity.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:44 pm

Apparently they're having to travel up there by coach instead of flying.

Oh dear, how sad.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by bfcjg » Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:04 pm

They have a banner at Stamford Bridge with Abramovich on it next to trophies he's bought for them with the caption the Roman Empire. It should be changed to the collapse of the Roman empire.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:07 pm

Carragher made a good point on MNF last night about Chelsea using their money to bully other clubs the last 20 years, poaching their best youngsters and trying to buy their best players etc. What goes around comes around.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by conyoviejo » Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:48 pm

I'd demote Chelski into the Southern league .Good enough for them.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:52 pm

hopefully lots of "is that all you take away" will be heard
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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:53 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:07 pm
Carragher made a good point on MNF last night about Chelsea using their money to bully other clubs the last 20 years, poaching their best youngsters and trying to buy their best players etc. What goes around comes around.
It’s a very good point too given the way they’ve poached young kids. They once did it to Leeds with two kids which landed Ken Bates in trouble for calling Chelsea a bunch of shysters from Siberia.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:53 pm
It’s a very good point too given the way they’ve poached young kids. They once did it to Leeds with two kids which landed Ken Bates in trouble for calling Chelsea a bunch of shysters from Siberia.
Be nice if some of their best prospects in the academy ended up leaving due to the club being unable to offer them terms and other clubs moved in

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:08 pm

if Boro and their fans needed firing up they don't anymore

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:51 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:53 pm
It’s a very good point too given the way they’ve poached young kids. They once did it to Leeds with two kids which landed Ken Bates in trouble for calling Chelsea a bunch of shysters from Siberia.
Didn't Chelsea end up paying Leeds a few million?
The two lads didn't even make it to the first team either did they?

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by IanMcL » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:01 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:48 pm
I'd demote Chelski into the Southern league .Good enough for them.
They would take a kicking there!

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by KRBFC » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:08 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:26 pm
The FA should donate it to the Ukraine fund seen as Chelsea can't have it and Ukraine needs it due to actions of their owners pal
How about we donate it to our own country, like the homeless? or the poorly children?

As for ''Ukraine needs it due to actions from their owners'', it's not Abramovich bombing Ukraine you dummy

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by slw » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:57 pm

cheeky b:sarts, pathetic
A full house, no away fans and a home win. :D

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:24 pm

Steve Gibson has made some strong remarks this afternoon

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:31 pm

claretburns wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:20 pm
Request withdrawn - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60757919
How jolly decent of them.

No pressure there then. :D :D

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:51 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:05 pm
Be nice if some of their best prospects in the academy ended up leaving due to the club being unable to offer them terms and other clubs moved in
Especially if we were one of the clubs who benefited

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Claretitus » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:22 pm

claretburns wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:20 pm
Request withdrawn - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60757919
And quite right too. Bunch of cheeky bas****s. Who the ***** do they think they are? Absolutely hate EVERYTHING about that club.
C’mon Boro.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Top Claret » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:56 pm

PR disaster for Chelsea they should be made to suffer in the future for their selfish classless behaviour by club and fans

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by claretburns » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:59 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:24 pm
Steve Gibson has made some strong remarks this afternoon
Very strong remarks:

"Chelsea and sporting integrity do not belong in the same sentence.

"Where is the intellect of Bruce Buck, the chairman of Chelsea, who has been an apologist for his owner, where the trophies won over 19 years have come from the corrupt money provided by Abramovich?" Gibson added.

"Where is the intellect of the chairman of Chelsea when it comes to playing his games at home in front of his season-ticket holders? Does he want to play all his away games at empty stadiums?

"Abramovich has been kicked out of football and Bruce Buck should be kicked out of football too."
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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Paul Waine » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:07 pm

Tim Rolls of the Chelsea Supporters' Trust was on BBC 5 Live around 15:15 this afternoon (for 12 minutes). He's spoken well about the Supporters' Trust feeling it's a bizarre request by Chelsea and the Supporters Trust not wanting Boro fans to miss the game. He's OK with Chelsea not being able to sell any more tickets - he admits he's one of the 500-600 that had already bought tickets. He's reticent about criticising Chelsea under Abramovich's ownership and hopes the club can move on quickly under new ownership.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Buxtonclaret » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:15 pm

giveusaB wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:00 pm
If Chelsea win what happens to the Quarter final prize money of £360,000 and also their share of the tie being televised ?
Good point.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by dougcollins » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:17 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:08 pm

As for ''Ukraine needs it due to actions from their owners'', it's not Abramovich bombing Ukraine you dummy
Existentially, it would be straightforward to argue that he is.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Buxtonclaret » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:18 pm

Can quite easily see Middlesbrough being the best supported club in the country when they kick off this tie...

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by beddie » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:30 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:08 pm


As for ''Ukraine needs it due to actions from their owners'', it's not Abramovich bombing Ukraine you dummy
At no point though has Abramovich condemned the war, says it all really.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by taio » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:31 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:08 pm
How about we donate it to our own country, like the homeless? or the poorly children?

As for ''Ukraine needs it due to actions from their owners'', it's not Abramovich bombing Ukraine you dummy
May be you should quote properly before calling someone a dummy based on that.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:08 pm

it's a little silly really, the reason for not allowing Chelsea to sell tickets is so Abramovich gets no money..............it's an FA Cup tie so Chelsea get 45% of receipts regardless of their fans attending.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by claret wizard » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:13 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:08 pm
it's a little silly really, the reason for not allowing Chelsea to sell tickets is so Abramovich gets no money..............it's an FA Cup tie so Chelsea get 45% of receipts regardless of their fans attending.
No they don’t, that would be illegal. That money will most likely stay in escrow with the FA. Chelsea cannot trade as normal. They have a special licence to operate with strict conditions attached to it.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:29 pm

claret wizard wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:13 pm
No they don’t, that would be illegal. That money will most likely stay in escrow with the FA. Chelsea cannot trade as normal. They have a special licence to operate with strict conditions attached to it.
........and escrow holds the money - so once the sale goes through they will get that money and that makes the decision to not allow Chelsea fans ridiculous.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by KRBFC » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:12 pm

beddie wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:30 pm
At no point though has Abramovich condemned the war, says it all really.
Neither have many Russians, they've seen what happened to Navalny. I don't think it says it all, at all.

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by Paul Waine » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:34 am

In case anyone is in any doubt about Abramovich's culpability for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, this is what the EU said about him when they imposed sanctions on Abramovich and Chelsea - Lille game goes ahead, but decisions to be made if they get through - yesterday:

The EU ruling states: “Roman Abramovich is a Russian oligarch who has long and close ties to Vladimir Putin. He has had privileged access to the president, and has maintained very good relations with him. This connection with the Russian leader helped him to maintain his considerable wealth.

“He has been benefitting from Russian decision-makers responsible for the annexation of Crimea or the destabilisation of Ukraine. He is also one of the leading Russian businesspersons involved in economic sectors providing a substantial source of revenue to the Government of the Russian Federation, which is responsible for the annexation of Crimea and the destabilisation of Ukraine.”

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Re: Middlesbrough v Chelsea

Post by GaryClaret » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:36 am

Paul Waine wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:34 am
In case anyone is in any doubt about Abramovich's culpability for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, this is what the EU said about him when they imposed sanctions on Abramovich and Chelsea - Lille game goes ahead, but decisions to be made if they get through - yesterday:

The EU ruling states: “Roman Abramovich is a Russian oligarch who has long and close ties to Vladimir Putin. He has had privileged access to the president, and has maintained very good relations with him. This connection with the Russian leader helped him to maintain his considerable wealth.

“He has been benefitting from Russian decision-makers responsible for the annexation of Crimea or the destabilisation of Ukraine. He is also one of the leading Russian businesspersons involved in economic sectors providing a substantial source of revenue to the Government of the Russian Federation, which is responsible for the annexation of Crimea and the destabilisation of Ukraine.”
Along with that anyone who wants an education on this can watch the recent Panorama on how he got his money on iPlayer.
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